The 90 days of NeverWDb4

[Squeeze2]

When I took a piss, it was cloudy. I'm assuming semen has ended up being mixed with my urine. Is this WD-breaking? It's been like this for the last 3 days, although I believe edging may play a part in creating the mixture but not expelling it, thus being trapped in the pipes and combining.

Yeah, the cloudy urine was definitely a result of the edging. Was it super foamy, too? That can also happen, I think if you get even more semen back into your bladder. I feel like the cloudiness is more from our testicles, but am not sure. I wouldn't consider that a full relapse because you didn't have an O, so it didn't affect your brain chemistry in the same way. But it may have set you back some on getting a WD. I did the same thing, too, recently. We both need a time out haha. It's definitely not helpful, but don't beat yourself up about it, and be glad you resisted going all the way, man!

[NeverWDb4]

Day 3 - Chill

Today was nothing special, didn't really get urges or temptations arising, both physically and mentally. I was listening to my 1,316 song playlist which unfortunately had a few sexual suggestive ones which did give me some inadequacy and negative thoughts since these songs are talking about how good someone is in bed or how big pps are. I managed to get over myself and my thoughts but it was confusing having these thoughts over something so minor.

[NeverWDb4]

Day 6 - Motivated

The last 3 days have been quite unproductive. Mainly grinding out ranks in LoL and playing other games. In terms of AB, it's going well, just being away from the phone helps out a lot since it's the most common way for me to browse and get triggered.

[NeverWDb4]

Day 0 - Deja Vu

Coincidentally, I also broke my streak same day last week. This was a culmination of things, I.e. strong urges and experimenting the effects of ejaculation before sports. I'm not completely disappointed that I broke my streak, just hopeful that next time I can hold out longer until eventually it become natural for me to stop watching porn and masturbating.

The last two days were tough mentally. This isn't helped by playing competitive ranked videos games. Just feelings of envy, disgust, anger, hopelessness and other negative thoughts regarding my life, mainly sexually but also day to day living. This isn't the first time but it has hit harder recently, which may be an avenue for the repeat habit of watching porn and masturbation. Simply as a means to avoid pain and soothe. I guess it's the winter blues for you.

I'll begin implementating more strategies to combat these feelings such as waking up early to get more sunlight and challenge these thoughts rationally as much as possible, whether that is discussing it with people or simply breaking them down in my head. It's only a matter of time before these thoughts become weak and unsupported.

[Texanguy]

From an earlier post I made in this topic:

Don't make it all about negativity and discipline. I think people who successfully pull away from MB do so because they find they want to explore and enjoy the natural horniness of AB and enjoy WDs.

One thing AB gives you is horniness with erection control. It seems rather likely that if they were to have 'nude day' at your university, it would likely be the non-MBers who would have the combination of interest, courage, and erection control to participate.

Move on. Endless MB-letdown cycles are boring!

The guys here at WDF who successfully AB longer definitely enjoy the effects of horniness becoming separated from 'termination by MB'.

Also, hundreds of millions of guys around the world don't MB. They don't have the MB habit. Many of them look forward to their next WD without even thinking about MB.

It also appears that some (or many) guys enjoy going nude more as non-MBers. No scientific research has been done on it, but anecdotally it seems highly likely that guys who sleep nude and hang around nude eating breakfast before school or work, for example, are probably ABing and may be having WDs.

As long as you make AB all about 'suffering' and 'enduring', you'll probably never succeed. But then, millions of guys are indeed MB addicts, and it's not the end of the world if you remain one of them.

But if you want AB and WDs, do your best to embrace and enjoy the natural horniness that goes with it. Make it 'fun' to AB longer and longer. I would argue that the enjoyment and 'fun' of AB horniness is natural, since nature would logically prefer us to be 'fertile' and 'ready' over constantly 'self-emptying'.

Imagine meeting a friend at his place one morning, and he answers the door wearing just a towel. As you eat breakfast with him, he tells you he hasn't MBd for 3 months and is now having WDs. He says he just had one last night and they feel really good. You ask him if he's going to go back to MB, and he says definitely not, it's way better this way.

Wouldn't you be at least a little envious? If so, BE that guy!

ABers here feel free to add, agree, or disagree.

[NeverWDb4]

From an earlier post I made in this topic:

Don't make it all about negativity and discipline. I think people who successfully pull away from MB do so because they find they want to explore and enjoy the natural horniness of AB and enjoy WDs.

One thing AB gives you is horniness with erection control. It seems rather likely that if they were to have 'nude day' at your university, it would likely be the non-MBers who would have the combination of interest, courage, and erection control to participate.

Move on. Endless MB-letdown cycles are boring!

The guys here at WDF who successfully AB longer definitely enjoy the effects of horniness becoming separated from 'termination by MB'.

Also, hundreds of millions of guys around the world don't MB. They don't have the MB habit. Many of them look forward to their next WD without even thinking about MB.

It also appears that some (or many) guys enjoy going nude more as non-MBers. No scientific research has been done on it, but anecdotally it seems highly likely that guys who sleep nude and hang around nude eating breakfast before school or work, for example, are probably ABing and may be having WDs.

As long as you make AB all about 'suffering' and 'enduring', you'll probably never succeed. But then, millions of guys are indeed MB addicts, and it's not the end of the world if you remain one of them.

But if you want AB and WDs, do your best to embrace and enjoy the natural horniness that goes with it. Make it 'fun' to AB longer and longer. I would argue that the enjoyment and 'fun' of AB horniness is natural, since nature would logically prefer us to be 'fertile' and 'ready' over constantly 'self-emptying'.

Imagine meeting a friend at his place one morning, and he answers the door wearing just a towel. As you eat breakfast with him, he tells you he hasn't MBd for 3 months and is now having WDs. He says he just had one last night and they feel really good. You ask him if he's going to go back to MB, and he says definitely not, it's way better this way.

Wouldn't you be at least a little envious? If so, BE that guy!

ABers here feel free to add, agree, or disagree.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts Tex. It’s interesting to consider how the experience of AB and WDs can vary between people. I've heard both sides of the WD experiences, both good and bad things. I agree that making the process about enjoyment rather than just enduring might lead to a more positive and fulfilling experience. Embracing the natural horniness and the energy that comes with it does seem like a way to enjoy the journey more, rather than seeing it as just a challenge. However, everyone’s experience is different, and what works for one person might not work for another. For instance, there have been many nights where the natural horniness strike in the early hours of the morning which has disrupted my sleep. One may argue that sleep is more beneficial and lack of such can be more detrimental to health than any amount of semen retention. It's those type of nights that really challenge my willpower to endure.

Furthermore, I am envious of the people who get WDs, you are correct. It's exactly that envy that has led to my misery. As I mentioned, everyone's experience can be different. Some guys get them every other night whilst others will never in their lifetime. This envy has led to expectations that provides immeasurable pressure, which it shouldn't be like this. Patience has never been my strong suit and this subjective 'maybe tonight or the next night' waiting has been tough.

My main goal for this year regarding this matter is to reduce porn consumption to a minimum. I'm still adamant that this is the root of all problems currently: in terms of mood, self esteem and most importantly, AB. WDs will just be a by-product (hopefully) of my successful AB habits.

P.S: My friends are massive porn addicts, I'm certain they don't abstain since he openly talks about objectifying women or the most recent hookups they've been on. I unfortunately can't relate to the anecdotally story. It's also very cold in the UK like usual. If anyone is going nude for breakfast, they must be insane or very rich. Utility bills are soo expensive now .

[NeverWDb4]

Day 0 - Mid Day Update

I ejaculated last night, which was unfortunate. It did have an adverse effect on my performance today, every shot was trash and I could not be level-headed like usual. Motivation this morning was at an all-time low, even now I'm writing this log from my phone rather than typing at my PC. It's easier said than done but I'm trying to stay away from porn since it triggers the thoughts and feelings to mb (association). I heard somewhere that 21 days is the amount of time required to form new brain patterns and habits so 21 days, 3 weeks, day by day.

I CAN DO THIS!!!!

[NeverWDb4]

Day 1 - Challenging

Since I relapsed, I've been making excuses to watch porn regardless of whether it leads to ejaculation or not. Even images cause me to spiral out of control. I see the progress however, I've began noticing these feelings and observing them as thoughts that cannot turn into action without me allowing it to happen. I'm using this energy to do other things more productive. Each time I resist only brings about change and hopefully this can happen without resistance from the porn cravings.

[Texanguy]

I agree that making the process about enjoyment rather than just enduring might lead to a more positive and fulfilling experience. Embracing the natural horniness and the energy that comes with it does seem like a way to enjoy the journey more, rather than seeing it as just a challenge...

However, everyone’s experience is different, and what works for one person might not work for another....

I think if someone can't manage to derive some enjoyment out of embracing the natural horniness, they are unlikely to succeed with longer term AB and getting WDs. Besides, an occasional WD may not be worth the suffering. And that's perfectly OK.

Maybe a better plan is to just go ahead and keep MBing and see if longer AB between MB sessions naturally starts to become a more positive experience. 'Let' longer AB slowly happen rather than try to 'force' it to happen, and embrace and enjoy the horniness between sessions. 'Evolve' towards longer AB and WDs.

[Seqiro]

Maybe a better plan is to just go ahead and keep MBing and see if longer AB between MB sessions naturally starts to become a more positive experience. 'Let' longer AB slowly happen rather than try to 'force' it to happen, and embrace and enjoy the horniness between sessions. 'Evolve' towards longer AB and WDs.

I would have to agree with Texanguy here. If you go, say for argument sake, 3 days with masturbating, the next time - try to go 4 days, then 5 days between MB sessions. It makes the "climb" more manageable that way. Try not to focus on how many days it's been. Just try to keep yourself busy and the days will fly by naturally


Best of luck with your journey!