Maktub's Log Journal

[wtdra]

Hope you're doing well too!

I hate horny days because it is very easy to give up during the time
Despite this wish you luck!

[maktub100]

Hope you're doing well too!

I hate horny days because it is very easy to give up during the time
Despite this wish you luck!

Hey wtdra,

Thanx so much for the support buddy!! I wish you all the best too!!

[wtdra]

Thanks, but you know, I am very very horny at these days too. I just don't know what to do. I am always thinking about porn or sex. If I think about it before sleeping, it is very hard to fall asleep after that. What is more I feel a strange feeling... It's like pressure... I have a lot of precum and erections (especially today). I feel like I am going to explode! I have never felt something like this! Really, today is very hard day.

Well, I hope tomorrow will be easier.

[maktub100]

Thanks, but you know, I am very very horny at these days too. I just don't know what to do. I am always thinking about porn or sex. If I think about it before sleeping, it is very hard to fall asleep after that. What is more I feel a strange feeling... It's like pressure... I have a lot of precum and erections (especially today). I feel like I am going to explode! I have never felt something like this! Really, today is very hard day.

Well, I hope tomorrow will be easier.

Hey,

Just hang in there...this too shall pass...I've gone thru some of the most tempting times...most times I've given in; but from the few times I've held on, I can tell you that the wild urges do reduce in intensity..On days when I'm uncontrollably horny, all that's on my mind is 'beating off' and feeling a good ejaculation..this can be especially hard during nights as I have a constant boner thru the night for many hours..

You're doing great..don't give up!!

[wtdra]

Thank you for your support maktub100!
Yesterday I was very horny too, but luckily I didn't give up.
Ohh... sometimes it is really really hard to AB.

[maktub100]

Log Entry # 78, 79, 80, 81, 82
Date :16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th
Day 1 - 5

It's been 5 days since my last ejaculation and I am so thankful to be where I am...I can feel the T~Buzz kicking in and I have this constant feeling of 'fullness' which is very satisfying and motivating. I have been watching some erotic 'softcore' videos lately which really made me indulge in 'feel-good' fantasies but today there's no urge at all to view anything erotic. I am simply satisfied that I am abstaining. The energy is amazing. Today, I didn't feel tired as I worked out in the gym and I felt renewed and refreshed.

On day 2, when I went to pee I noticed semen leaking out of my penis..Has anyone experienced this too?

I have been reading articles which say that you experience a peak of testosterone on Day 7 and after that the levels dip...I am keen to see how my body reacts when I hit Day 7 soon...

Many authors say that when abstaining from sex or masturbation it is likely for the abstainer in question to be sexually frustrated and at times even depressed with the lack of 'release' and the best remedy is 'channeling' the accumulated energy and 'transmuting' it.
Techniques like 'deep-breathing', physical exercise and appreciation of art and music is encouraged.

So that's what I am trying to do..channel this energy into something beneficial and productive...

Stay Strong and Hang on,

[Texanguy]

This is a copy of a post I made a while back. Note that this study found a sustained increase in testosterone. It looks like testosterone levels may stay at a higher level with continued abstinence.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788

World J Urol. 2001 Nov;19(5):377-82.
Endocrine response to masturbation-induced orgasm in healthy men following a 3-week sexual abstinence.
Exton MS, Krüger TH, Bursch N, Haake P, Knapp W, Schedlowski M, Hartmann U.
SourceInstitut für Medizinische Psychologie, Universitätsklinikum Essen, Germany. michael.exton@uni-essen.de

Abstract
This current study examined the effect of a 3-week period of sexual abstinence on the neuroendocrine response to masturbation-induced orgasm. Hormonal and cardiovascular parameters were examined in ten healthy adult men during sexual arousal and masturbation-induced orgasm. Blood was drawn continuously and cardiovascular parameters were constantly monitored. This procedure was conducted for each participant twice, both before and after a 3-week period of sexual abstinence. Plasma was subsequently analysed for concentrations of adrenaline, noradrenaline, cortisol, prolactin, luteinizing hormone and testosterone concentrations. Orgasm increased blood pressure, heart rate, plasma catecholamines and prolactin. These effects were observed both before and after sexual abstinence. In contrast, although plasma testosterone was unaltered by orgasm, higher testosterone concentrations were observed following the period of abstinence. These data demonstrate that acute abstinence does not change the neuroendocrine response to orgasm but does produce elevated levels of testosterone in males.
PMID:11760788[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Note that this is a 3 week study. Sustained increased testosterone from abstaining does not seem surprising, since we see an increased horniness and more energy with abstaining, and we see those effects go away with a return to MB.

One thing the study did not include was the effect of WD's on testosterone. But based on the effects and descriptions by many people post-WD, it would seem likely that WD's do not decrease it, at least not as much.

This has implications. You are more 'male' if you don't MB. With the same amount of exercise, your muscles should get bigger. Your body fat should be lower, you should have more energy, and be able to concentrate better.

[Feynman]

Here's the link to the full text that Texanguy referenced above. http://www.reuniting.info/download/pdf/ ... sponse.pdf

You can see the graph relating to testosterone on the third page in the bottom-left corner, and there is definitely a significant difference between the testosterone levels in males prior to their abstinence and while abstaining.

[maktub100]

Update:
Thanx Texanguy and Feynman for your inputs on testosterone elevated levels...

Well, I gave in last night and am back to Day 1...

Didn't feel that good really and today I lacked in a bit of energy at the gym...

I don't care how many attempts this is going to take but I want freedom from masturbation to be my natural state of being...

How do you guys fall asleep at night?? I mean, I need to fantasize a lil' bit in my mind to sleep..else, I can't sleep...Of course, when I'm tired I can fall asleep quickly...

Anyways, will be writing in soon!!

[wtdra]

Update:
Thanx Texanguy and Feynman for your inputs on testosterone elevated levels...

Well, I gave in last night and am back to Day 1...

Didn't feel that good really and today I lacked in a bit of energy at the gym...

I don't care how many attempts this is going to take but I want freedom from masturbation to be my natural state of being...

How do you guys fall asleep at night?? I mean, I need to fantasize a lil' bit in my mind to sleep..else, I can't sleep...Of course, when I'm tired I can fall asleep quickly...

Anyways, will be writing in soon!!

Day 1? Well, it is a little bit sad that you back, but anyway, good luck to you!
Yes, I also think about everything before sleep. It is very hard to think about nothing.
Sometimes, when I am very horny I cannot sleep for hours, because I think about porn/sex and other stuff...
I hate nights like that...

[Texanguy]

...there is definitely a significant difference between the testosterone levels in males prior to their abstinence and while abstaining.

It can be argued that the testosterone levels when abstaining are the natural and proper levels. At any rate, it is a known fact that testosterone is associated with more energy, clearer thought, and male physical characteristics such as a leaner and more muscular body. Assuming those are all desirable traits, this research leads to the conclusion that MB has negative effects.

It is interesting that old eastern pholosophies believe that MB dissipates 'qi' energy and is unhealthy. Maybe this 'qi' energy is actually testosterone.

Apparently no research has been done, but it seems likely that WDs don't reduce testosterone as much as MB, or maybe not at all. Contrary to MB, an intense orgasm from a WD does not create a post-orgasmic letdown, and can even result in increased arousal and horniness.

[Homenudey]

This is a very interesting discussion. Do you have any idea what the effect of sex (in a healthy long-term, committed relationship) on testosterone levels is?

[Homenudey]

Generally, when I find it difficult to sleep I lay on my back and breathe deeply focusing on my breathing. Sometimes it can be frustrating because you REALLY want to or need to sleep, but the sleep just doesn't seem to come. That's when you have to trust the sleep will come.

[Texanguy]

This is a very interesting discussion. Do you have any idea what the effect of sex (in a healthy long-term, committed relationship) on testosterone levels is?

There is no research to prove that testosterone levels stay higher after WDs than with MB. But based on the observations of many guys, the aftereffects of WDs strongly suggests that T levels remain higher. Guys who have sex and don't MB would be in the best position to make the same observations post-sex. But it does appear that sex more closely approximates WDs (most say WDs more closely approximate sex), so it seems likely that T levels might remain higher after sex than after MB.

Again, this is based on the observed differences between the effects of MB and WDs. But it's interesting to note that we started calling it 't-buzz' at this site before we found any evidence that supported the idea that AB increased T. And the t-buzz remains after a WD.

This is interesting from other perspectives. One is that after decades of the 'advanced' world saying that MB is fine or even good for you, there is evidence that it has side effects. What are the effects of reduced testosterone on physical, mental, and emotional development? It seems like all three are likely affected negatively. I think it's also significant to observe that most prematurely sexually active guys also MB, often quite frequently, so the idea that if guys don't MB that they will go out and have sex instead appears to be wrong. Instead, they might be more active in sports and other activities, and perhaps less self conscious about their bodies and nudity.

It's interesting that bodybuilding sites have been getting into 'no fap' fairly recently. Many guys try AB and find that their workouts are better, and also enjoy their newfound WDs. It seems like their success rate at quitting MB is actually higher than at this site, maybe because they are looking for more than WDs -- and finding it in improved workouts and other aspects of their lives.

Another perspective is that guys who don't MB have better, more intense, more exciting, longer lasting, and more full body orgasms than MBers do. The best way is to never start MB, getting the full experience and frequent WDs is difficult for long time MBers to achieve.

It will be interesting to see if the trend towards 'no fap' increases. It might even become fashionably 'mainstream' for guys to keep their energy and T levels up, and to prefer WDs as the more natural and better experience.

[maktub100]

Hey guys,

Sorry for the long absence..Have been really busy with uni..a ton of tasks and studies ensuing!! A big thanx to Texanguy, Homenudey, The95Percent, wtdra and Feynman for their replies. I don't have the time now to reply all the discussions but will do so soon..

Currently, I'll be re-starting my AB again..I tried attaching a pic of my most recent spontaneous ejaculation but I keep getting a prompt during uploading that the image format is invalid? The type is .jpeg so the type shouldn't be a problem as it's a common format. Also, the size is 2.4 Mb..does anyone know how could i upload it successfully?...

[maktub100]

Wow, I just realized it's over almost a year since I've come on here and posted...Browsing through the logs I see some familiar faces...Great to know that you guys are still steadfast on abstaining for the wet dream rewards...

Well, here I am...It's time...to begin...

Day 2.....BOOM!!!!!!

[maktub100]

DAY 3

Well, last night pretty much sucked. Had a bad sore throat and I was tossing and turning due to some feverish dreams. Ugh. Anyway, today I'm kinda better as I'm taking some gargling medicine to help relieve the sore throat...

Also, had an intense leg workout at the gym about 2 days back and last night my quads were fucking on fire..Haha.

Had tons of boners last night as I kept thinking of this girl who I'm in touch with on the internet...fantasies invading my mind...DAMN!!!

Well, that's it for now fellow abstainers!!!

Cheers!!!

[maktub100]

DAY 4

Last night was sucky like the previous too. Hardly slept and when I finally did it was late and I ended up waking late. :-/

Had a few boners at night and it was due to erotic thoughts of this girl I have a crush on...She's really sweet and think about her on a daily basis....

Had a gym workout today..Chest and triceps with 0.6 km intense cardio....

Tommo, I have some work in the morn at uni, so might try to head to the gym in the evening to hit some delts, traps and cardio...

Cheers

[maktub100]

DAY 5

Lots to report...

I was feeling a bit down last evening...and instead of facing it I tried to run away from it by opening erotic porn sites...That surely started the snowball rolling and I went onto a webcam sex chat

By night, I had severe vascongestion (blue balls) and was unable to sleep and out of desperation even squirted a bit of ejaculate to relieve the pain....

Hit the gym today and worked my delts and some cardio...I plan on staying regular with the gym to lean out....

I watched a video where this guy said porn or masturbation is not in itself addictive but it is due to certainchildhood experiences that we crave pleasure from such things....

[maktub100]

DAY 9

Things are going well...Recovering from the sore throat and I have a slight irritation in an eye....

Will be hitting the gym today and work some quads...Am seeing effects and I'm starting to lean up...

The girl I was chatting with yesterday tells me about her crush on some other guy....well, she says it isn't serious so..well...

I'm seeing the doc tommo to completely rid myself of any sore throat with anti biotics...

I've started playing guitar again and I'm loving it...need to practice everyday though....

Got some reports I need to finish writing for a company....

Well, Soon I'm going to start reading some positive self help books I have to clear up some thought patterns and incorporate new ones...