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Premature Ejaculation

Focus.

I think it is a good idea to ad the "Average Time to Reach Orgasm" column in the website.

Because if a person is constantly training his brain to delay the ejaculation in the conciuos world, this may also happen when dreaming, affecting the wet dreams.

Contrarily, physical disposition to have ejaculations, could also trigger wet dreams with simple friction or a little pressure.

How does it actually work...? It would be very interesting to find out.

Man, I'm telling you. If I had a major in Medicine or Biology, I would submit a PhD project for approval to an university.
Research on wet dreams, with 50 to 100 participants living together and monitor their dreams and masturbations (a military base would be excellent).
I'm sure I would find many answers to our questions.

Nice, ha?

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Good rebuttal, guys

Whew! I was a little concerned when I ran across this last night, guys, but I think you all did a pretty good job rejecting it based on your personal experience. Mike's lengthy period of no masturbation seems to indicate that, if anything, our junk hangs heavier. And Focus, I think your point is well-taken, too: with all the wood and swollenness that's going on right now, I don't think that anything's shrinking.

But I'll admit that it had be concerned.


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Focus is producing lots of precum and having good quality erections. (BTW focus... Have you noticed any growth or variation in lengh/girth? I think you mentioned something in a previuos post. And if I recall correctly, you are above average in equipment...)



Mike - I am the exact same size as you. Or at least, the same size as you were originally!

I haven't noticed any growth or variation in length/girth. Other than I am often 'fuller' in my flacid penis. It's like almost a semi erection, but not really. Like I'm not semi-erect, but I'm not fully flacid either. Its not always like this, but sometimes, and seems to be happening more often as time goes on. So no real change, but then again, it's only been just over 2 weeks for me.

Other than these occassional semi-erections, I haven't had any full hard erections while awake, except for that time I had difficulty while changing this past week. Precum leakage has been absolutely crazy though. It weird - its like my arousal is manifesting itself more in precum leakage than in the form of an erection.

At night though, its a whole other story. I know I get many erections during sleep (I wake up sometimes with a rock hard woody), and I usually wake up with morning wood. The morning woods are always impressive.

Different topic: web site:

I will work on it some more today. Today I plan to:

- Add some FAQ's
- Dig through the old posts here recalling some of the wet dream experiences and post them on the 'experiences and stories' page. This should help Darwin
- Maybe work on the male anatomy page and get that started.
- See if I can get the discussion board to work.

I'll post back here when I finish today's updates.


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Shrinkage

I agree with focus. The study was probably done by students looking for a grade. You'd expect a symptoms of low testosterone to include shrinkage and less sexual activity, so they would naturally find a correlation. More frequent arousal and erections may, if anything, increase sexual hormones, or at best have no effect.

Many of us here seem to feel that not masturbating, and the resulting 'testosterone buzz' as Socks put it, makes us more sensual, erotic, get more erections, and helps us exercise more and eat better. I wouldn't be surprised if as a whole, this 'lifestyle' INCREASES testosterone. When we become frequent wet dreamers as well, we'll remove the last connection between our group and the study.


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Questions for Focus

Hey, bro, 2 questions for ya:

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Dig through the old posts here recalling some of the wet dream experiences and post them on the 'experiences and stories' page. This should help Darwin



How would this help me? You mean by giving me an incentive to not cave in, or ensuring me that my penis won't shrink to nothingness?

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Other than these occassional semi-erections, I haven't had any full hard erections while awake, except for that time I had difficulty while changing this past week.


Dude, how do you manage that? I throw wood almost at the drop of a hat. When I'm trying to go to sleep, it's especially easy to get hard since I have nothing to distract me. I'd love to know the mental exercises you use to keep it down, 'cause I sure could use them at night (they're not really a problem during the day since I'm sitting most of the time). These going-to-bed hard-ons interfere with my sleep.


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I think you tend to get erections less after not masturbating for a while, and get used to the ones you have as well. Like with Focus, arousal may start to be accompanied more by precum than by constant erections. It seems like each person may be different.

For me, when not masturbating for a while I have found that arousal and excitement can be in the brain, pulse, and general feelings of excitement, and get precum, but not have it always be accompanied by a full erection. Then if I masturbate for a while, I find that arousal and erection go back to being more 'wired together'.

Anyone else notice anything similar?

I just realized at this moment that this kind of 'general arousal' is suggestive of people's descriptions of the 'whole body' feelings in a wet dream. Interesting!


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How would this help me? You mean by giving me an incentive to not cave in, or ensuring me that my penis won't shrink to nothingness?



Darwin - sorry I meant to say it would help Noople Bear, not you.

This was Noople Bear's quote that I was referring to:


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I wish I knew in which of the 8 wet dream threads to look for these intense wet dream descriptions...





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Dude, how do you manage that? I throw wood almost at the drop of a hat.



I don't know, I haven't had spontaneous erections since I was in my teens, then I had them all the time. I don't know how old you are Darwin, but I'm 29. I mean I still get a spontaneous erection from time to time during the day, but its pretty rare.


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When I'm trying to go to sleep, it's especially easy to get hard since I have nothing to distract me. I'd love to know the mental exercises you use to keep it down, 'cause I sure could use them at night (they're not really a problem during the day since I'm sitting most of the time). These going-to-bed hard-ons interfere with my sleep.



Maybe you need to be more tired before going to sleep. By the time I go to sleep, I'm usually exhausted and can barely keep my eyes open. I fall right asleep that way, and don't have the motivation to think of sexual things.

As I think we had discussed earlier, my sleeping problem is the opposite of yours: I wake up too early, tired, with a raging morning wood and a very horny feeling, and I can't fall back asleep once I'm up because I stay hard and my mind starts racing with sexual thoughts, even though I'm tired and didn't get enough sleep.


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Focus, thanks. I guess everybody's different.

No problem about the mix-up between Noople Bear and me.

And I'm 25.


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Arrgggghhh!!!

I can't begin to tell you how much I hate this ezboard site! I just typed a whole message, clicked Add Reply Button, and got the old "Page Cannot be Displayed" message. Went back, and my message was gone. This board really is a POS. Between things like this, the horrible pop-up ads, deleting old posts and threads randomly, incredibly slowwwwww, etc., I've about had it. I think we should seriously consider moving our little wet dream operation somewhere else.

Anyway, now that that's off my chest, I updated and added more content to our web site. Here are the pages I changed/added to:

68.4.99.189:88/wd/FAQ.htm
68.4.99.189:88/wd/wet_dre...iences.htm
68.4.99.189:88/wd/member_...rofile.htm
68.4.99.189:88/wd/wet_dre..._table.htm

I still can't get the discussion pages to work with the posting and search functions. I keep getting the Front Page Server Extensions error, even though I just installed the newest version of FrontPage Extensions 2002 on my server. I don't get it. Does anyone know FrontPage Server Extensions that can help me?

I will search the web for free bulletin board software. I checked the cost of UBB, which is similar to what this site uses (but better), and it's $200 for the original version.

Let me know if you have any comments, changes, or additions to the pages. E-mail me is the best way. If you have anything you want me to add, e-mail me that too. I know the progress chart needs some formatting work, but I need to figure out what the best way to tackle it is.

How are those essays coming along? I have a nice blank page waiting for them whenever they are ready...

Hope all is well in wet dream land (kindda quiet in here lately).

This time I'm copying everything I wrote to the clipboard in case ezboard tries to screw me again.


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hmm he says

> "I think it is a good idea to ad the "Average Time to Reach Orgasm" column in the website.
Because if a person is constantly training his brain to delay the ejaculation in the conciuos world, this may also happen when dreaming, affecting the wet dreams.
Contrarily, physical disposition to have ejaculations, could also trigger wet dreams with simple friction or a little pressure."

This could be a problem. I spent so much time learning to PROLONG/DELAY the orgasm that I've built up a resistance that might be counterproductive to having wet dreams no matter how long I abstain. I hope that is not the case. My ejaculatory threshhold is high. A dream can't possibly stimulate me that much or for that long to produce a wet dream - I must increase my sensitivity (being circumcised doesn't help, or so I hear). Perhaps a CRAZY solution would be to retrain myself to ejaculate sooner - that is, daily masturbate a quickly as possible - orgasm in 20 strokes or less. THEN, with my orgasmic threshhold lowered I might be able to stop and have wet dreams much easier.

No?


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Noople Bear

I don't think that's going to work. I don't think you can train yourself to ejaculate faster or slower, and then hope that manifests itself into your dream state.

Your penis will get more and more sensitive naturally, the longer you go without orgasm. At least, I've noticed that mine does. My time to orgasm also decreases significantly the longer I go without orgasm.

Like I normally average 5 minutes to orgasm while masturbating. But if I masturbated right now the same way, I could orgasm in 30-60 seconds. It's because the 2+ weeks that I've gone without orgasm so far has increased my penis sensitivity, and lowered my orgasm threshold.

Are you still masturbating? Or did you quit and joined us to try to get a wet dream? If you quit, when was the last time you masturbated?


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Very good Focus

Youre webpage project looks to me Focus, very good indeed! Im still with you guys if you wonder where i have been, im just busy with school. I woke up last night on my back with a pillow on my boner and i felt very horny, i think my brain is working hard on to learn to ger a wet dream, im sure of it! Its just mather of time. I even had some precum, but i woke up just 2 hours from when a got to sleep......

Some nights i wake up lika 3 times, before i quit masturbating i never woke up middle of the night! *hmmm*


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great job, focus

Well I thought I'd comment again. You're doing a great job woth the board, focus. You can also put on it that my first wet dream was at age 13.

Well it looks like Mike and Hoban are getting wet dreams now, while Magic Murdock and I aren't getting them as quick, since it's been almost a month since my last one, and about 2 weeks since Magic Murdock's. So I guess we'll just have to see who has one next.

Well take care everyone, and happy dreaming!


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Focus

The web site is coming along nicely! You've obviously put a lot of work into it. Somebody who reads about the wet dream experiences may become even more interested in joining our group.

I think it would be a good place for me to put my 'anecdotal web research', including links. But it should be a little more organized first. It would help newcomers see the inverse connection between masturbation and wet dreams. And it invites comments, ideas, and other interpretations.

This board is a pain. After having lost a few long posts, I do my long ones in Word, and copy the shorter ones to the clipboard before clicking 'Add Reply'.

I haven't worked with Front Page. My only thought would be that the Front Page version you have may not be the 'full blown' version, or is of an older revision that cannot use all of the FrontPage Extensions 2002 features. Or maybe it's just a bug, and you have to do something 'off the wall' to get around it. Sometimes just doing things in a different order, or grouping things in a common directory might help.

A different issue: It's one thing to know in the abstract that some people masturbate frequently and still get wet dreams, and it's interesting to interact and ask questions of such a person on this board, like Kris. Hopefully he can help us out with some information. Too bad he can't tell us how to wire our brains more like his! But his example doesn't change what most people have to do to have wet dreamd. We are more realistic to expect to become more like Magic than like Kris.


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MrUnix

It's great to hear that you are still with us. Hopefully you are getting enough sleep. It'll get easier. Any of us could have a wet dream any day now. You never know how long youwill have to wait.

Good luck!


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Because if a person is constantly training his brain to delay the ejaculation in the conciuos world, this may also happen when dreaming, affecting the wet dreams...
This could be a problem. I spent so much time learning to PROLONG/DELAY the orgasm that I've built up a resistance that might be counterproductive to having wet dreams no matter how long I abstain.


I think you can carry this to it's logical conclusion: If you stop masturbating to have a wet dream, you are delaying ejaculaton indefinitely! I do think that this may 'map over' to the sleep state. Since masturbating reduces the need for wet dreams, and not masturbating may inhibit them, something's 'got to give' to get wet dreams. I think it's your brain finally making the distinction between inducing an orgasm while awake and having a wet dream. But, I could be wrong!

I think Focus is right, though. Less physical stimulation lowers the threshold to have an orgasm. But whether a lower threshold while awake translates to more wet dreams is a good question.

An example of the variability of the human brain is indicated by some posts I've read where a person has regular wet dreams, but can't masurbate to orgasm no matter how hard they try. Some say they get erections and aroused while awake, but just can't get orgasms except in wet dreams.


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My toughts

Thanx Texanguy, its getting exiting but!!!, what i am intrested of is that who of us that hasnt yet never had a wet dream ang gets it first and if we will succeed. If one of us succeeds, then i will be DAMN satisfied, almost like having one my self! Im very enthuisiastic! =) May the force be with us :P

I was offered today in school to study extra with two girls because our teacher recommended that, hope i can hide my boner for the girls *LOL* ! And about 12 days i will date my girl friend who is very open to me *incredible girl* We talk in phone almost everyday but she dont live very close to me, maybe its a good thing, it will be little easier for me to maybe have an WET DREAM =) Today i have felt that my penis and scrotum has become more sensitive then before, dont know if its related to physical toughts or if it is something fysikal, maybe both?


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MrUnix

I have read of people on the internet who never had a wet dream as a teenager, but started to get them in their 20's whe they quit masturbating.

Mike (Brahms2 , part of our group here, had only one wet dream in his life, at the age of 13, before coming to this site. He got the second wet dream of his life at 28, 45 days after qutting masturbation, then his third wet dream 15 days after that, about 10 days ago.

So it can be done!


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Focus, our data collector

Focus, I trust you have looked at the topic by Kris at this site, who masturbates and still gets wet dreams. Here is how he compares wet dreams and masturbation:


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I was 15 when I had my first wet dream. The first one was unbelievable, I had heard of wet dreams before, but actually having one was unlike anything I had expected before....

I have found that the feeling of a wet dream is much more intense than the feeling of release that you get with masturbation, it is unlike any orgasm I have ever had from masturbation before....



It seems we are getting more and more 'anecdotal evidence' that wet dreams are indeed a more intense and different experience from masturbation. It appears to be more than just the 'novelty' of it, and more than just a few individual's opinions. Perhaps they are a different physiological phenomenon.


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