Wet Dream Forum

Darwin
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(9/10/03 7:40 pm)
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photo album

Forgot to respond in my previous post, Focus, but I don't think I'll be participating in your photo album. But thanks for offering to set one up.

MrUnix
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(9/10/03 10:56 pm)
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2 weeks!

hello guys, today it has been 2 weeks since i quit masturbating. So yesterday at evening i felt perhaps more horny then ever before, and it was diffucult because my girldfriend likes me more when im horny ! =) and she likes to play around to get me more horny but we just talked over phone and i said to her to stop!

So when i wanted to sleep i had a huge boner for like over 2 hours and i could not fell asleep. I think a would have ejaculated if i wouldt have fought against it!!! But suddenly the boner went away and i could sleep, but no wet dream!

I think if i would have timed more correctly then the chances for me to have a wet dream would have increased, mean never been so horny, my dick started do live its own life there. If i can get as horny when im in e deep sleep then i think my chances are big now that i get an wet dream! *its near*

Hoban
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(9/11/03 12:31 am)
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Sorry guys...

I’m back again, feeling great today!

Bro Mike, I don’t know why there are so many similarities between you and me. Perhaps this is just something by chance, but I think we think along quite on the same subject too! First thing was that email addy thing. I was about to type my answers to Texanguy’s questions on my last wet dream, but then you have the same idea as mine to ensure that we can contact by other means, and posted that already (I haven’t seen that post before sending mine). On another occasion, I got ‘invisible’ wet dream, like you! That’s on the early morning of 10th Sept; I think I got a wet dream! That’s around 6 in the morning. I was still very sick on my bed in my room. I remembered that dream (I saw a couple laying). It’s just that I got no evidence on that, so I guess I’m not going to record it down into the wet dream calendar here. But I made a mark on my personal calendar! I was just trying to play ‘fair’…hehe

Welcome to all the new guys here! They’re Mr. Unix, Darwin, Magic You’ll enjoy this place!

Thanks for everyone’s comments while I’m not here. Texanguy, I’m very sad that Dickenson is still not here to ask me questions about my last wet dream. Yeah, he’s very funny, nice, happy, and is quite the ‘analytical’ type like you and Focus. But at the same time, he chose certain words on his writings that evoke the fun and laughter among us. I miss him sooo much.

I’ll answer a question here:
Texanguy’s Q: What was (or normally is) your sleeping position when you have a wet dream? Are they all, most, or many while sleeping on your back?
I get the impression that a lot of wet dreams happen while sleeping on your back. If so, do you fall asleep on your back when you first go to sleep, or do you just find yourself on your back when you wake up from a wet dream?
A: On the back. Yes, I can’t sleep by falling asleep in other positions. I think I might turned here and there during the night, but I’ll sleep on my back again when I knew I’m not. It’s just my habit, I guess.

Did I miss out any questions from anybody? Thanks.

Ronald, thanks for all your compliments too! I know your wet dream is coming soon! Good Luck!

Focus, I’m really sorry that you’re still waiting for the guys’ pic. But may be some of them don’t like your idea of sharing it this way. Personally, I’d like to express million of thanks to you on setting up that page; though it’s not fancy. I haven’t seen that, but I think it’s quite ok. You made the decision after I mentioned the pic issue. I’m still trying to send it to you, but to no avail. Remember, I’m NOT a computer genius. I’ll send you an email regarding my problems if my problems still persist. Thanks.


My saying of the ‘pic’ might be offensive to certain people here, I know. So, here, in this short little post, I’d like to say sorry to you (and you, you….). IF you’re not comfortable in revealing your personal info, it’s OK. You wanna remain anonymous forever, go ahead. That’s totally your choice. This is your life; I’m NOT in control of that, OK? Do it your own way.

I guess I was too excited after having my wet dream, and began to thank you guys and even wanted to see all of you. It’s just nice to see those people here that I once talked to, and shared ideas with (the people behind the scene). ALL of you have helped me in some ways towards that BIG DAY, you know? Thanks again! But, if anybody feels that he’s comfortable to send a pic to any guy’s email displayed here, go ahead. I guess that’s more ‘private and confidential’; since it’s secured from other viewers you hardly know. I understand that. This is my whole idea, actually. But Focus, your idea was great too! Both ideas of course have its good and bad sides. Cheer up, Focus, ok? Sorry again, if you don’t like me….I just want you to be my friend. Just keep that site, Focus. Don’t trash it.

Guys, my active email: happyhoban@hotmail.com.

Again, I don’t want to be an eyesore to any of the guys I once knew here. I don’t want to lose any of you here, OK? Thanks for all the blessings and advice, and I wish you all the best in your little quest!

From,
Hoban (an open-minded guy)

brahms 28
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(9/11/03 3:44 am)
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A wet dream or not?


I know it sound crazy, but the way I am narrating it is the way a saw things happening in the dream, totally irrationally.

I woke up, right before the orgasm. I found my hand making pressure to my penis… just pressure. I couldn’t stop. I felt my heart beating very rapidly, a sensation of fear of not being able to handle such a strong explosion. Next I felt the liquid traveling across my penis, then reaching the top, and after those uncountable spasms, my penis had thrown out lots of a watery liquid, and at the end the whitish stuff. Just like my first wet dream.

The stain, 12 inches long by 12 inches wide, covered the right side of by boxer and the back left side as well. Mostly with no odor, and some parts of it with the typical semen smell.

Was it a wet dream? I don’t know. Please advice guys!
Ronald, have you had a similar experience…?

What confuses me is that there was some kind of manual intervention, and the ejaculation took place while awake.

Texanguy….! You can write Spanish! That’s was very good.
“Hurra a los sueños humedos”, means something like “Hurray (Cheers) to the wet dreams”.

I don’t shave all of my pub off. I just trim it, but I do shave the shaft. It looks neat, and women like it. It feels very comfortable as well.

I haven’t seen many men with the pubis completely shaven, but most of them trim it. (and all my friends do it regularly)

Focus… please keep the site. I’ll be sending my picture shortly. I just have to power up my personal computer and get the pic from there. Right now I’m using the office laptop, and I don’t have any photos in here.

Mike.

Darwin
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(9/11/03 4:17 am)
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Re: A wet dream or not?

Mike, you might have manually done it while you were asleep. I've heard that some guys do that. Or holding your penis could have merely been a part of your dream. Were you having a dream before you woke up? Maybe I'm just confused.



On a personal note: I think today's going to be my roughest day so far, guys. If you pray, I'm sure it wouldn't hurt.

brahms 28
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(9/11/03 4:26 am)
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First Paragraph!

I don't know what happened. The first paragraph got truncated.

Here it goes:

Last night I woke up several times with an erection. Then I started dreaming of being in the office doing all my duties... One of them was to have an ejaculation. In the dream that was something very normal, like writing a report.
I was waiting for someone to come from the south of the country. In the meaa time, I decided to have the ejaculation. I stand up, and started concentrating to have an orgasm (in the middle of the office!)...

Ok... Now you can continue reading the previus post.

focus
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(9/11/03 9:24 am)
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Mike

Yeah, I think that qualifies as a wet dream, Mike. Assuming you weren't actively masturbating, like stroking your penis while awake. It sounds like you just had your hand on or near your penis, but not masturbating it. And you didn't put your hand there while awake. And it was also directly preceded by a sexual (at least partly) dream. When you woke up, you started to ejaculate without any intervention on your part; i.e. you had no control over it.

Meets all the qualifications of a wet dream in my book.

Congrats! That makes like what, 2 in 15 days? Nice!

brahms28
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(9/11/03 9:44 am)
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OK!

Thanks for the confirmation focus!.

But my hand was actually ON my penis. But, it was just making pressure, not stroking it.
I guess it was a genuine wet dream, because I still feel the power and arousal of not having masturbated for a long time. But I do feel the emptiness down there... It was a huge ejaculation.

The dream was pretty weird, bu the fsensations were incredible.

So... keep it up guys! It is definitely worth it!
Mike.

Ronald WDM
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(9/11/03 10:06 am)
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Mike and others

Yes Mike, that sounds like you had a wet dream, since you were having an erotic dream just before you woke up. I've woken up as I was ejaculating too, but realized I'd been dreaming. So congratulations on that.

OK Darwin, I'll pray for you. I think God is happy to help people to break a habit they're working on like that.

Welcome back Hoban. I'm glad you're feeling better. It looks like you're close to having another wet dream. I wish you the best.

Well take care everyone, and happy dreaming!

Texanguy
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(9/11/03 10:15 am)
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Focus

I've thought about the picture, I just haven't done it yet. I'm probably not real excited about sending in my picture, but neither do I want to be a 'stick in the mud' and not send mine in if everyone else is.

If it's a thing people want to do, I'm in.

Texanguy
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(9/11/03 10:21 am)
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MrUnix

Congtatulations on reaching two weeks! Hopefully you will be getting a wet dream soon. So far, the shortest time was 45 days, but perhaps you can beat it. You have an interesting girlfriend who understands your quest fior a wet dream.

Girls also can have the female eqivalent of a wet dream, and have an intense orgasm while dreaming. It is more rare, but perhaps your girlfriend can also be on her own quest.

Good luck!

Texanguy
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(9/11/03 10:45 am)
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Hoban

Thanks for your long post.

It is interesting that you and Mike are having 'erotic dry dreams' that seem the same as wet dreams without the 'wetness'. Does that mean that you would describe their 'orgasm intensity' as the same as in real wet dreams, and better and more intense than masturbation?

If I were you, I'd be enjoying all of this, and be more and more excited about continuing and seeing what's next. Masturbation would become nothing more than a pretty boring way to prevent future interesting wet and dry dreams that may become even more frequent and more intense.

Can I ask about your erections while awake recently? Do you get as many as you used to a few weeks ago?

I hope you don't feel bad because people have not been sending in pictures. I think it just hasn't been a high priority for many of us, but keep bugging us about it. If Focus puts them up on a web site, I think he said he can email us a password, so that only we can get access to the pictures. When we go to the site, it'll ask for a password. You can't see the pictures until you type in the correct password.

You said ".. if you don't like me". I'm sure we all like each other here. Except for this one personal area of our lives, we just don't know each other that well. But already we do see different personalities from the way we write. The more we communicate, the more we get to know each other through this rather strange and personal way.

Stick with us! We enjoy your posts!

Texanguy
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(9/11/03 11:24 am)
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Mike

I agree with Focus.

I think it can qualify as a wet dream in the sense that what 'got you off' was the content of a dream, not physical stimulation (even if there was some pressure).

Maybe it was something like having a dream when the telephone rings, and the ringing gets incorporated in the dream.

And in your reply to Focus you mentioned the intensity, the continued 'hornyness' right after, and the large amount of 'two kinds' of semen.

Yep, it qualifies as a wet dream!

You give us the best kind of encouragement. Quote:
" It was a huge ejaculation. The dream was pretty weird, but the sensations were incredible.
So... keep it up guys! It is definitely worth it!"

I believe that hearing about other's wet dreams and their enthusiasm for them helps our subconscious say 'me too'! So does your encouragement. Don't hold back on your descriptions of the dreams or the intensity of the feelings. We love to hear about them!

It can also help the guys battling with masturbation. It increases our desire for wet dreams, and reduces our desire to masturbate.

It would be cool if you and/or Hoban would write up an essay comparing the differences between wet dreams and masturbation, including all the feelings and other differences. Also, include your feelings about the experience of having gone from masturbators to wet dreamers. Ronald, the wet dream veteran, could do likewise.

These essays could serve as a summary to other people who come to this site, and as inspiration to anyone who thinks they may want to try.

Maybe your next wet dream will come even more quickly. I hope it does (but I wouldn't mind if mine came next!)

brahms 28
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(9/11/03 2:18 pm)
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Thank you guys.

I'll work on the essay...
Perhaps, I can "somehow" work together with Hoban (maybe a phone call, or though a chat...), and come up with a single, well written and complete essay. Then you can be the reviewers. What do you think Hoban?


One thing that I want to point out, is that lately fighting masturbation has become easier. Today, I feel completely relaxed. I still get many erections, but they are easier to manage.

I can even watch erotic scenes, without the need of touching my penis. (Can you believe that? )

The wet dreams are way more rewarding, and I definitely prefer to wait.

Mike.

Texanguy
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(9/11/03 3:20 pm)
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Mike

Thanks for your offer about the essay. I hope you guys enjoy being wet dreamers enough that you might like to put your thoughts down in an organized fashion. And Mike, your written English is as good as anyone's here.

It seems that getting more comfortable with not masturbating makes sense, since you have found a way you like better. The brain may just naturally focus on the new and better way, and increasingly lose interest in the old way. I would think that would also tend to increase wet dream frequency.

You and Hoban are people who have recently been both masturbators and now wet dreamers, and so can compare. You both agree with many others that say wet dreams are simply better and more intense than masturbation.

I wouldn't be surprised if that view was supported by standard 'objective' measurements of brain waves and bodily excitement, during both wet dreams and masturbation. A wet dream probably feels like a more intense experience because it IS a more intense experience!

MagicMurdock
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(9/11/03 9:08 pm)
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well well well

I was gone a couple of days, but I'm back, I don't have too much to say, but I've actually gone about 7 or 8 days without a wet dream, and that's the longest I've been in about a month, so I'm not completely sure why, since I've been slightly more aroused this week than i was before, when i was still going once every 3-5 days.


By the way, yes texanGuy, I am a college student.

MagicMurdock
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(9/11/03 9:10 pm)
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I do have a question

I do have a question though...you're talking about a wet dream calendar? And a Photo thing or something? Does someone here have a website regarding this or something?

Texanguy
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(9/11/03 10:00 pm)
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Magic

Magic, It would be interesting to find out why you are having less wet dreams. I wonder if it has anything to do with discussing the topic on this site.

I've read that girls can have the female equivalent of wet dreams, but that it is much rarer than in males.

It would be cool to get a copy of her research on the male reproductive system. The 'why wet dreams are necessary' part would be interesting, but I've read statistics saying that considerably more than half the male population has never had a wet dream. Mainly, of course, because they masturbate too much, and started masturbating early. A few more people have had one or two in their lives, again usually because they started masturbating and then the wet dreams stopped.

On this site, both Brahms28 and Focus previously each had only one wet dream in their entire lives, both years ago. Since joining our group, Brahms28 has had two more, for a total of 3 in his life.

But I would be interested in reading her scientific reasoning. She may have some studies on the effects of masturbation on wet dreams, etc, and may have more physiological details and data than our anecdotal research here has shown us. Have you told her about us here on this site?

Calendar and photos: Hoban has kept his own calendar, but there is no general calendar here. Most of us here know exactly when the last time we masturbated was,
simply because we are a collection of people motivated enough to stop masturbating in order to get wet dreams.

There has been a web site proposed, hosted by Focus, that will be password enabled where our pictures could be posted and viewed. The idea is that we would all email our pictures to Focus. He will email back to us the password. That is still in progress.

Focus has been collecting our data and organizing it from this long history of posts. Many of us have posted our email addresses at times in these various posts. So perhaps Focus could put all the information in one post, including all of our email addresses, and repeat how to get pictures to him.

So you are a college student. What is your major?

Texanguy
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(9/11/03 10:04 pm)
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Magic

As you know, there is a topic here called 'Keeping Track of Wet Dreams', where people have posted their successes, including you. That is a close as we have to a 'calendar', and in a way I suppose tha's exactly what it is.

MagicMurdock
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(9/11/03 10:16 pm)
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Major

I'm not sure what her research will excactly entail, I believe she has to turn hers in by October 4th or so....

My major is currently Business Management, but I'm strongly considering a switch to either Communications or Linguistics.... all this would just lead me eventually to Law School, if I hold true to my course.

By the way Texanguy, what part of Texas are you from? I'm from capital city, austin.

Noople Bear
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(9/11/03 10:35 pm)
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glad I found this site!

Hello everyone - wow - I didn't expect to find a site about the very thing Iwas looking for: other guys interested in finding out about wet dreams and how to get them or increase their frequency.

As I had posted elsewhere (and I forget where), my 1st wet dream was at age 14 - it was also my first orgasm and my 1st ejaculation. I previously tried masturbating (humping bed style only) without orgasm, dry or otherwise. Then suddenly this wonderful dream happens. In short, I'm hugging this girl whose face I can't see clearly, then we are laying down, then nude (suddenly), then I feel water flowing gently and heavily down my head, neck, back, butt and legs. We don't move at all - this is not "sex." A crucial moment is where things get freaky and I "melted" into her, as if the boundaries of our skin disappeared and we morphed together - this made me feel numb and tingly too - and this soothing water kept flowing, and suddenly we turned into wated and flowed in this stream - all feelings. With all this water I had to pee and it only seemed natural to urinate so I did. It was one of those "forever" pisses where your bladder is so full it just dribbles out for a while, then stops, and suddenly picks back up by itself again - except in my case it did this several times. When it ended and I lay in bliss I realized I was in bed and it dawned on me that I just let myself wet the bed - and I jumped awake. Of course I hadn't really wet the bed - well, not much aside from my briefs and a small patch on the sheets.

I will never forget that dream and the way it felt - so innocent and unexpected. I had no idea what an orgasm felt like so it was interesting how my mind interpreted it as a peeing sensation (helped by the fact that from what I had heard a wet dream would somehow be like wetting the bed).

I had several other wet dreams after that, all vastly different, in content and type of orgasm (from the long and gentle to the split-second single strong spurt) - and I can write about them at some point if there is an interest here but I'd much rather get more info about what you guys are doing. As I said they are never about sex - I rarely dream about sex, but if I do it is strangely not a wet dream, and it is usually short and not realistic.

My wet dreams stopped around age 16 and since then I have had MAYBE one per year, but unfortunately they are not very seminally copius and are the variety where I recall no dream or orgasm sensations. I am now 31.

I have looked for so long for some scientific data from research that discovered things abotu wet dreams, either directly or indirectly, but with very little luck.

I have tried abstaining from masturbation on many occasions in order to have a wet dream, but always without success. Usually I will go 2 weeks, but a few times I went 3 weeks and once I managed 4 - in the end the temptation was too great and I masturbated quite powerfully but felt upset afterwards at all that hard work gone to waste and no wet dream to show for it!

Part of the problem, it seemed, was my ANTICIPATION of the wet dream, which somehow prevented it from happening. But how else do I maintain a hands-off approach if not through reminding myself WHY I am abstaining: in order to have wet dreams? Seems I had a wall to break through, where not masturbating was a natural lifestyle I didn't have to think about, and through which wet dreams will naturally take over.

My problem with doing this is after the 2nd week I get "blue balls" sensations and after I urinate I get a mild dull ache in my groin that makes me think semen will ooze out but t doesn't. Is it a retrograde ejaculation? I doesn't feel safe or healthy, but no wet dreams to the rescue. And I could never "half-masturbate" because where does the half-made semen go if it is not released?

Then again, I've read that semen and/or sperm can be reabsorbed through the body, so there is really no PHYSICAL build-up of sperm that needs to be released through a wet dream or other means - instead it is more in the mind getting release and a hormonal issue. Other factors may be age, genes, diet, health, amount of sleep, clothing worn, exposure to sexual material, and sensitivity to orgasmic threshhold (premature ejaculators). At one point a new pair of underwear (like silk boxers or briefs) would trigger a wet dream - the novelty did not repeat itself...

But for the record MOST of my wet dreams happened in briefs (and quite a collection I had hidden away in a drawer in embarrassment).

I've had at least one wet dream that happened only 3 days after masturbating, and one last year thatwas only afer a week, but I was on vacation so the excuse of inconvenience made it easy. I even had one the morning I had (correctly) anticipated having sex with a new girlfriend. So what gives?

I am currently having my testoserone levels checked (bloodwork came back and the lab forgot to check that one thing so had to do it again!) - I've read that testosterone shots can induce wet dreams but no specific statistics.

I am not doing it just for that - it can also help with building muscle mass, something I seem unable to do, and increasing energy and motivation. It would be nice to take a natural hormone supplement than be misdiagnosed for depression and given freaky pills with side-effects, like LOWERING your libido!

But I would like to stop masturbating long enough to have a few wet dreams - but I never had a support group of friends to cheer that effort on or be in the "race" together.

I thought I had some questions in there and was going to list them, but I think I covered a lot of it up there - I tend to ramble - it is late and I've written enough. Can't wait to see the responses.

Texanguy
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(9/11/03 11:17 pm)
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Pretty Weird!

Magic, I live in Austin too. I would have thought you lived in Utah or something (Mormon?). Since I'm a lot older than you, we probably don't have any mutual acquaintances.

The odds that two of us live in the same city is incredibly low. Yet if I'm not mistaken, Mike and Hoban both live in London. Now it turns out that two of us live in Austin. Considering how many English speaking people there are in this world with internet access, the odds seem incredibly low. Pretty weird!

So now we can discuss deeply personal issues as anonymous entities -- AND the weather!

Texanguy
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(9/12/03 12:01 am)
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Welcome, Bear

Welcome. It seems like this site is becoming a magnet for people pursuing wet dreams.

These threads are getting so long that it would take a long time to read through them, but you should, in order to get to know us. They start with 'Wet Dreams Continued???', continue on through 'Wet Dreams II', all the way to this one, soon to become too long, 'Wet Dreams VII'.

To make a summary of the 'anecdotal wet dream research' I did on the web. On average:
-Most people have few if any wet dreams.
-The people who have them the most, even 2 or more times a week, don't masturbate at all.
-The only way masturbators who are not having wet dreams can start having them is to quit masturbating.
-It can take not weeks, but months for that to happen.
-It's not clear that everyone who quits is guaranteed to get wet dreams, but it seems very likely that they will.
-It's a virtual guarantee that they won't get them if they keep masturbating.

About your particular situation, I think that if you masturbate frequently and it's hard to stop, your testosterone level is probably pretty normal.

You can probably get them again by quitting masturbation long enough. You may have to wait more like 4 months than 4 weeks, but you never know. If you've had several wet dreams in the past, perhaps you'll get them more quickly than some others.

Many people want wet dreams, but like you, tried not masturbating for a few weeks, had none, and gave up. But we are getting results here than indicate that waiting longer will in fact get wet dreams, and that they will probably become more and more frequent.

We seem to have found a pattern to wet dreams compared to masturbation that is holding up pretty well, at least if you haven't masturbated for a long time. Compared to masturbation, wet dreams:
-Are more intense, and involve the whole body
-The orgasms lasts longer
-Result in more semen
-Usually happen when sleeping on your back
-Leave you more aroused and 'horny' immediately after.

Perhaps you'd have some comments on this from your own experience.

Your explanation of semen buildup and how the body handles it seems to be correct. Whatever the function of wet dreams, they seem to have more to do with the brain than semen buildup alone.

Welcome!

Texanguy
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(9/12/03 12:17 am)
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Focus

You said that you have a server and can set up a web site. Even though I'm an engineer, I don't have experience with networks, servers, etc. I also can't afford any equipment right now.

What I'm thinking is that there are so many new people coming here that it would be nice to have a web site, at least for a general 'FAQ' about what we know and think we know about wet dreams, and perhaps a place for the various histories of our group, including the latest wet dream status of each of us.

We could also have our postings there instead of here, and maybe even a 'post your experience here' area that could gather more information about wet dreams than any where else.

I don't know how much effort it would take to keep it up and running, but I get the impression it could become a popular site. I could learn how to handle some of it and we could add new features over time.

Any comments or ideas? Anyone else?

focus
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(9/12/03 1:53 pm)
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Texanguy - webserver

Texanguy - thanks for your web site suggestion. I like the idea, and would be happy to set something up. I do have a few concerns though:

- I do have a web server that I set up as kind of a hobby of mine. Its nothing fancy, but it works well, and I know the basics of administering it. I really built it just to see if I could, and as a learning experience. It is on 24/7, but it uses my standard cable connection, which is not a static IP address. Now, my ISP has never changed my IP address, but that doesn't mean they couldn't in the future. Because this is a dynamic IP address, I never registered a domain name for it. Doesn't matter really, but it doesn't have anything fancy like "www.wetdreams.com" instead its like 44.44.44.44/ for example. Bottom line is its an amateur's server on an amateur's connection that may change from time to time. Its not a commercial web server. A change in IP address isn't a big deal, as I could always post the new address here for example, if it did change. So this could work, and its free, but its not an ideal solution. An ideal setup would be to have a server on a static connection, and a domain name registered to it, or have some web space permanently hosted on a hosting provider that has a server farm. But, all this costs money. I'm more than happy to do it on my server, just be aware of its limitations.

- I've never done a fancy web page or pages before. I've played around with HTML a little bit in the past, but I'm for the most part a newbie. I have the tools to create good web pages fairly easily (FrontPage), but it will be a learning process for me. But I'd be happy to learn, try, and do it. Just keep your expectations low initially until I get the hang of it. For example, I would like to be able to copy and past the wet dream database in Excel I have into a web page, but I've never done that before. I know it can be done, but it will take some experimenting and trial and error to get it right.

- Hosting a message board like this is a whole other issue. Having a message board for people to go to pretty much requires a domain name and a static IP address (i.e. a permanent presence on the web). Otherwise if the IP address changes, people won't be able to find the message board again. There's also the issue of message board software that runs on the server, such as UBB (like this one uses). Some are free, but the good ones are not. What I would suggest is I could have an area for people to post messages on the server, that will be pretty basic. But it should be an area in addition to a main message board such as here, not a replacement.

To summarize, here's what I think we should do for now:

- Set up a wet dream web site on my server for now. We can make it whatever we want to, with FAQ's, stories, essays, a summary chart of progress, a message area, etc. I can put HTML headers in it so people can find it if they search in yahoo, google, etc.

- Keep the main message board here.

- If the site grows, and this message board continues to grow with more and more members, we can maybe explore getting a permanent web site with a permanent host and domain name.

- Whatever web pages we create on my server, can be moved over to a permanent site, so there would be no duplication of effort. So we can use my server as kind of an incubator to see how it goes.

Let me know what you think.

Texanguy
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(9/12/03 2:29 pm)
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Focus

What you said all sounds good to me. We could keep the 'dynamic' postings here, and the more 'static' information at your site. The problem now is that we say to newcomers 'read the history'.

We need a place for 'static' information. With the web site, we can just say 'read the FAQ at this web site: #####.

I imagine that with some kind of password, several of us could contribute to the maintenance and updates for the site. Mike does software, and he might be quite experienced in web site management. I have never worked in web site development, but it would be good for me to learn.

I think the most useful feature would be the 'FAQ'. It could deal with basic information about the male biology, how and where semen is created, stored, etc. It can also include what we seem to know about wet dreams, and even include a section on theories and questions we would like more information on.

Another section could be a collection of people's descriptions of their wet dream experiences: the content of the dream, the feelings, amount of semen, etc.

We could also still have a password protected area for pictures, etc.

Maybe Mike and others will also have suggestions.

I say go for it!

focus
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(9/12/03 4:11 pm)
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Texanguy

Sounds great. I will start working on some of the foundation and templates for the web site pages and start playing around with some things.

Any idea what you guys want to call this web site? Not the domain name, but something for the title?

Noople Bear
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(9/12/03 4:50 pm)
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thanks for the welcome

(BTW, my user name is also my AOL IM name, if you ever want to try to catch me.)

Thanks for the welcome. I did read quite a bit of the posts, but they are wonderfully long and contained in several threads, it is rather like reading a book. It would be nice to have such a book!

In response to your points:

> To make a summary of the 'anecdotal wet dream research' I did on the web. On average:
-Most people have few if any wet dreams.

Of the guys I have spoken to about this it seems to be 50/50. Among my 2 best friends, one has never had one and the other used to get them weekly. Everyone else seems to have had at least a couple.

> -The people who have them the most, even 2 or more times a week, don't masturbate at all.

I could never get the guy who had a lot to talk about masturbating, though he hinted that he didn't which I couldn't believe. He is asian and my age and I think he is still a virgin.

> -The only way masturbators who are not having wet dreams can start having them is to quit masturbating.

Except for those rare once-a-year surprises, IF you are lucky.

> -It can take not weeks, but months for that to happen.

That is what I am afraid of, and don't know how I can persevere (sp). I take it this means no sex either, should one be that lucky.

>-It's not clear that everyone who quits is guaranteed to get wet dreams, but it seems very likely that they will.

Again, another worry - no guarantees! But what does it mean if you never get one? Where does it all go?

>-It's a virtual guarantee that they won't get them if they keep masturbating.

Aside from a rare one - but I think you are referring to guys who no longer have them and masturbate rather than those lucky ones who get wet dreams even if they masturbate (what is THEIR secret?)

> About your particular situation, I think that if you masturbate frequently and it's hard to stop, your testosterone level is probably pretty normal.

Well, whether it is normal or low - either can be a good thing. If normal it means I am healthy, of not then I get to add something which might tip the scales in my favor. But I think it is lower - not because of erectile dysfunction - but because of loss of libido. I get spontaneous day erections rarely anymore and need to masturbate less. Sometimes I might not even get hard when I do want to masturbate - I mean, where is the pressure when I'm alone? In those cases I find my nipples a more direct link to an erection than touching the actual penis - odd...

> You can probably get them again by quitting masturbation long enough. You may have to wait more like 4 months than 4 weeks, but you never know. If you've had several wet dreams in the past, perhaps you'll get them more quickly than some others.

I hope - but look: for those who have to wait 4 months to get a wet dream, is that for just the 1st one, or is there a 4-month interval between each one? That is an odd existence, having a 3-orgasm per year life, all unconscious! With my luck at least two of those will be the variety that has no dream and the only evidence is the wet spot. If that is the situation it is pretty bleak and probably not worthwhile.

> Many people want wet dreams, but like you, tried not masturbating for a few weeks, had none, and gave up. But we are getting results here than indicate that waiting longer will in fact get wet dreams, and that they will probably become more and more frequent.

I used to try more often. But how does a single orgasm slip-up in a month satisfy one's sexual cravings where you might otherwise have had 60 orgasms in the same period masturbating twice a day?

Instead of quitting "cold turkey" I thought it might work to have a masturbation schedule, where you start off once a day, then once every 2 days, 3 days, 4 days, and so on until you are into waiting a month, by which time you hope wet dreams occur.

Um, would any of you suggest that after a victorious WET DREAM you would celebrate with a few manual orgasms, or would that be out of character and/or lengthen the time before the next one happens?

> We seem to have found a pattern to wet dreams compared to masturbation that is holding up pretty well, at least if you haven't masturbated for a long time. Compared to masturbation, wet dreams:
-Are more intense, and involve the whole body

Hmm - mine all seem different. Some are like urinating, some are almost a regular orgasm, some are the intense BUT VERY QUICK and instantaneous variety, and many are the type I can't even feel. But yes, the OLD ones I got did have a mystical quality to them that did feel like you were naked floating in heavenly clouds of pleasure with energy emmanating from many areas of my body.

> -The orgasms lasts longer

Only my first one I can say that. Some last one second. A quick buildup and a single burst (what happened to the rest?)

> -Result in more semen

Again, my first was the most, later ones were a pitiful amount, sometimes seeming like just precum. I did notice that the semen was different. Not just thicker, but more oily. Wet dreams seemed to soak into the underwear with a heaviness to it, but if I masturbated in my underwear the semen mostly lay in globs on the fabric. Perhaps when you are awake certain ingredients are addeed while masturbating that are not during a wet dream, or vice versa.

> -Usually happen when sleeping on your back

Half on back, half on front, one on my side.

> -Leave you more aroused and 'horny' immediately after.

I do notice that.





So what about my concerns posted earlier? When I stop masturbating, does that include not even touching myself or doing anything to get aroused (like nipple play)? And what about that achy-oozy feeling in my penis after I pee when I stop for a while? Will that pass? I worry about that the most. And I wish there were a way to NOT think about not masturbating - like be hypnotized to not even want it.

Should I subject myself to erotic material or avoid it? I've heard arguments for both to get wet dreams.

In a side note I have had a strange thing happen to me twice in 5 years. I ALMOST wet the bed. Because of my strange wet-dream/bedwetting worries of youth, I would sometimes dream of urinating. But twice this resulted in actual urination, but only lasting a couple seconds. I'd be lost searching for a place to pee and really having to go. I started to pee, felt a squirt and jumped awake in time to go to the bathroom. The second more recent time I woke up without thinking about it, and I didn't even have to go to the bathroom when I did - how can you let out such a small amount if you don't have a full bladder??? In both cases the stain was tantalizingly the size of a wet dream (slightly larger) but was definitely not sticky and I thought smelled like urine. Perhaps a mix? or precum? No explanation...

focus
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(9/12/03 6:10 pm)
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Noople

Noople Bear - welcome!

I'll try to answer some of your questions:


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Of the guys I have spoken to about this it seems to be 50/50.



That's about the ratio I've seen to based on research on the web, etc. That's based on guys who have had at least 1 wet dream in their life - the other 50% have never experienced a wet dream.


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> -It can take not weeks, but months for that to happen.

That is what I am afraid of, and don't know how I can persevere (sp). I take it this means no sex either, should one be that lucky.



Its nothing to be afraid of, just aware of so your expectations aren't unreasonable, and you won't get frustrated if you don't get a wet dream in say 2 weeks.

If you want a wet dream, you basically have to commit to abstinence of any kind of ejaculation while awake, for as long as it takes to get a wet dream. How long it takes to get a wet dream after you abstain from ejaculating while awake isn't clear at all. It seems to vary quite a bit from person to person. It could be a few days, or it could be 6 months or more, or even never. There's no guarantees, but there is a good chance of you getting a wet dream this way, and that chance increases the longer you go without ejaculating.

And yes, the abstinence includes no sex.


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Again, another worry - no guarantees! But what does it mean if you never get one? Where does it all go?



This is true - no one can guarantee you a wet dream after waiting X number of days. Its an unknown, and is one of the things we are researching here. We'll at least try to establish an average, but we don't have enough data yet. Among this group, there is a pretty high success rate of those who quit masturbating and abstain from sex, who then start having wet dreams. We don't have many people, so its not statistically conclusive, but there does appear to be a strong correlation. In addition, we have a few people who never masturbated, or gave masturbation up many years ago, and ALL of them get wet dreams now on a regular basis. That's pretty conclusive.

We do have a few people though who have abstained for over 4 months now and have not had a wet dream yet. We haven't been able to explain this yet.

As for where does it all go if you never get a wet dream? The body does have the ability to reabsorb unused sperm and semen. This has definitely been proven. However, it is possible that the body can't reabsorb excess at a fast enough rate as it is produced, and there could be a buildup at some point. This is just a theory though. The guys who have not had a wet dream after 4 months of abstaining have also experienced spontaneous ejaculations, as have a few other who have abstained for over a month or two. This is while you are awake, semen squirts out uncontrollably, not necessarily while aroused. Its kind of what happens in a wet dream, but with no orgasm, no dream, and little pleasurable sensations. So in addition to reabsorption, the body does seem to need some form of external release of semen as well, either in the form of a wet dream while asleep or spontanous ejaculation while awake.


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Aside from a rare one - but I think you are referring to guys who no longer have them and masturbate rather than those lucky ones who get wet dreams even if they masturbate (what is THEIR secret?)



That's a good question, and one without an answer. The only vague explanation I've heard is that these folks have brains that are 'wired' differently that allows them to get wet dreams much more often. Its really unknown why some people get wet dreams while masturbating often, and others who don't masturbate for long periods of time might not experience a wet dream.


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I hope - but look: for those who have to wait 4 months to get a wet dream, is that for just the 1st one, or is there a 4-month interval between each one?



Well, that's what we're trying to find out here. Once you have your 1st one, is there a cycle or pattern of wet dreams that you get into if you continue to not masturbate? So far, it appears that the 2nd, 3rd, and subsequent wet dreams come much sooner after the 1st. Again, we don't have much data yet, but it appears the 2nd wet dream comes about 15-30 days after the 1st. For example, brahms28 just got his second wet dream after 15 days of his first. It took him 45 days to get his first wet dream though.


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With my luck at least two of those will be the variety that has no dream and the only evidence is the wet spot. If that is the situation it is pretty bleak and probably not worthwhile.



So far, nobody here has had a wet dream that they couldn't remember since abstaining from masturbation. Doesn't mean it couldn't happen, and I know many wet dreams in general go unremembered. But it hasn't happened hear. On the contrary, everyone's wet dreams have been very vivid, memorable, and enjoyable.


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I used to try more often. But how does a single orgasm slip-up in a month satisfy one's sexual cravings where you might otherwise have had 60 orgasms in the same period masturbating twice a day?



Again, this is not clear, but it does appear to set you back if you do have a slip-up. Sometimes, it seems to set you back to zero.


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Instead of quitting "cold turkey" I thought it might work to have a masturbation schedule, where you start off once a day, then once every 2 days, 3 days, 4 days, and so on until you are into waiting a month, by which time you hope wet dreams occur.



I've tried that several times before, and it doesn't work. At least not for me.


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Um, would any of you suggest that after a victorious WET DREAM you would celebrate with a few manual orgasms, or would that be out of character and/or lengthen the time before the next one happens?



Well, that's up to you and what your objectives are. Hopefully you'll continue abstaining masturbation and pursue more wet dreams after the first, and see how long it takes to get the subsequent ones, which will also provide more data for the research here. Most of the people here are trying to get wet dreams often, on a regular basis, and if it means giving up masturbation permanently to get a more enjoyable wet dream, they're willing to do that.


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Only my first one I can say that. Some last one second. A quick buildup and a single burst (what happened to the rest?)



That's interesting - that's the first I've heard of this. My one and only wet dream had an ejaculation that lasted MUCH longer than a regular ejaculation (or at least it seemed that way in my dream). Almost everyone here has reported the same sensation.


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So what about my concerns posted earlier? When I stop masturbating, does that include not even touching myself or doing anything to get aroused (like nipple play)?



Well, everytime I tried to give up masturbating in the past, I failed because I decided to just 'play with it a little', then stop before I ejaculated. That just doesn't work. If you're really serious about giving up masturbation, you need to adopt a "do not touch" policy, whereby you do not touch your penis under any circumstances except to urinate. If you get aroused or hard, you change what you're doing and find something to take your mind off of it. If you can orgasm from nipple play (some men can), then you shouldn't do that either. If you know you can't orgasm from that, then go ahead. Basically, anything you know that has a chance of leading you to orgasm or ejaculation, you should avoid.


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And what about that achy-oozy feeling in my penis after I pee when I stop for a while? Will that pass? I worry about that the most.



I'm not sure - I've never experienced that. Perhaps someone else here can relate.


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And I wish there were a way to NOT think about not masturbating - like be hypnotized to not even want it.



I found the best thing to keep your mind off of it is to stay as busy with other things as possible. The busier you are, the easier it is to not think about masturbating.

Who knows, hypnosis may be able to help too - if it works for smokers, it should work for this.


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Should I subject myself to erotic material or avoid it? I've heard arguments for both to get wet dreams.



I don't think it makes a difference. I've heard arguments on both sides too. I think the majority of the people here would suggest that you do NOT subject yourself to erotic material. At the very least, it certainly makes it easier to not think about masturbating if you're not exposing yourself to erotic things.


Wow this was a long post. Hopefully I answered your questions though.

So what do you think? You ready to join us in our pursuit of wet dreams by giving up masturbation?

Texanguy
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(9/12/03 8:16 pm)
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Noople

Focus did a great job of filling you in.

I could add some thoughts:

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I've had that as well, and even had semen 'leak out' several seconds after urinating. It seems to go away after a while of not masturbating. It also appears that not everybody gets it, even if they get a large number of erections each day.

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With my luck at least two of those will be the variety that has no dream and the only evidence is the wet spot. If that is the situation it is pretty bleak and probably not worthwhile.
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It may be that if you don't masturbate for a long time that most or all of your wet dreams may be intense and memorable, much like your first one. So far, that seems to be the case.

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The whole arousal while awake issue is a good question. My theory is that focusing on arousal and erections while awake may help keep wet dreams from happening. Yet if you don't feel aroused at all, you may not have wet dreams either. It's a thin line, and it's just not clear what's best. But I think that physical stimulation short of orgasm is probably not a good idea. I think the whole idea is to get your brain to focus on orgasms while asleep by not having them while awake, yet not give up arousal and erotic feelings entirely.

My theory says that the brain will stay with what it knows. If it's used to masturbating, it wants orgasms by masturbating. It has to 'learn' (or relearn) how to get wet dreams, and that requires not doing it the 'old' way. You are certainly welcome to add to the theory. It is nothing more that an attempt to explain as much as possible in a coherent pattern.

I've tried to explaining this idea with different analogies. One might be learning how to ride a bicycle. If you don't know how to ride one, it is difficult. While learning, if you just want to go down the street to the store, you may decide that walking or driving a car is easier -- you just stick with the ways you already know.

So perhaps getting wet dreams is like riding a bike. If you keep 'driving your car' (masturbating), you won't learn to ride your bike, because you'll never need it. If you force your self to learn by only allowing bike riding as a means of transportation (stop masturbating), and keep doing it, you'll get used to it and it will become easy. If you want to go to the store (have an orgasm), riding your bike is just second nature.

So what about guys who get wet dreams easily? Well, they already know how to ride their bike! If they can't 'drive their car' to the store, they easily just hop on their bike.

What if they don't ride their bike for many years? Then if they can't drive their car for some reason, it may not be so easy to ride their bike any more. They'll just walk or wait for their car to get repaired.

That may not explain everything, but perhaps it explains some of what is going on.

As Focus indicated, it seems like not masturbating at all for long enough is the best way we know how to get wet dreams if you aren't having any, or very few. Your Asian friend who had frequent wet dreams sounds very much like someone who doesn't masturbate. It also appears that some Asian cultures 'don't believe' in masturbating. It makes sense: if people who don't masturbate have the most wet dreams, go and do likewise!

Welcome, and feel free to contribute your thoughts and ideas.