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Texanguy Unregistered User (9/3/03 5:22 pm) Reply Wet Dreams VI This topic may rival the worlds busiest topics, especially when you consider the lengths of our posts.
Focus, it's interesting that both Mike and Hoban had two kinds of semen. You seem to know a lot about anatomy, but it was my impression that all semen passed through the prostate. Yet I suppose that the seminal vesicle fluid could pass through the prostate more easily because it's thinner, even though the prostate contracts later. The reason that in a wet dream the orgasm may feel more prolonged may be because it is!
But I have also noticed that lots of arousal creates more 'thin' semen. It might just be that they had been so erect and aroused lately that there was just a lot of the thin components of semen that had built up.
I'm glad you are collecting a data base on wet dreams. I tend to be less 'detail' oriented, and more 'abstract' oriented, looking for theories and patterns that fit the facts. There is no doubt that you can't develop theories without a good 'data base' of facts, but it can also require creative insights, and 'thinking outside the box' to develop the next level of understanding. Not to say that you can't do those things yourself, but together we might get a better set of understanding and theories than we might achieve separately.
Precum: I tend to not have much. I've never had erections with the frequency of some of us here, but I am also capable of being 'turned on' and make precum without much of an erection. With my history of having waking ejaculations without physical stimulation, my determination to have wet dreams sometimes keeps me from 'taking the chance' and getting too aroused while awake, even unconsciously. Whether that affects wet dreams, I am not sure. But I'm having less erections than just before my 'decision', not more.
But I still get erect during the night, and usually wake up erect. Rather than erotic dreams, I sometimes wake up erect and almost 'puzzled' about how to have a wet dream. My brain sometimes seems to be 'working on it' while I'm asleep.
As I've mentioned before, I think there is definitely a 'crossover effect' where resisting inducing orgasms while awake causes you also to resist them while asleep. That simple concept can be an explanation for several things: 1.) How you can get an unexpected and random wet dream after only a few days of not masturbating while not trying for a wet dream. 2.) Why it seems harder to get a wet dream on purpose, because you then intentionally 'forbid' activities that induce waking orgasms. 3.) Why it takes so long to get wet dreams. You may have to move from 'suppressing' to 'forgetting', to then 'allowing' orgasms a new way. Any thoughts?
It looks like frequent erections while awake don't inhibit wet dreams. But on the other hand, I never saw a post by someone who has several wet dreams a week say anything about frequent erections.
Focus especially, you seem to be interested in research. You can get quite a bit of detail from a Google search on {"wet dreams" Karbonopsinos} about a guy who never masturbated and has several wet dreams a week (use everything verbatim inside the {}). The thread goes on for a long time, but even the first post is informative. It is probably more descriptive of the thoughts and attitudes of one individual who has frequent wet dreams than any other, possibly anywhere. He did not have many waking erections. He is also a very unusual individual in other respects. Karbonopsinos is his posting name. He was a 17 year old genius who was a sophomore at an Ivy league college last year getting a double science degree. He stopped posting before I ever saw any of his posts, and it's not clear what happened to him. If anyone is at all interested in getting inside the mind of a moral, very high IQ'd, talented genius, or in reading very literate, insightful, and sometimes funny and fascinating posts, you can read more of his posts than just the one on wet dreams.
I think I'm spending too much time at my computer lately!
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brahms 28 Unregistered User (9/3/03 5:30 pm) Reply Sorry, I should've posted this here. Guys... I'm having a terrible erection. I have to concentrate on typing...
Some questions that require my answer:
Focus: The idea of the password protected website to post our photos is fantastic! Please go ahead.
Ronald. Thanks for your physical description.
Hoban / Focus: I'm intact. And yes, my foreskin retracts easily when erect and flaccid.
Focus: In my wet dream, the semen was all over. My entire penis was covered by it, and the foreskin was retracted.
I would say that I had a very voluminous ejaculation, (greater than the one I usually get when I masturbate). I think is the same case for Hoban.
Texanguy is right. The day after the wet dream, I was even hornier than the day before. But I did feel a relief in the pressure down there. An emptiness sensation.
I got my wet dream at 5:00am, five hours after I went to bed.
And… I’d say, I get a little of precum. On my first two weeks of abstinence, I used to get a liitle bit more. Now, it’s just a few drops per erection.
Currently, for some reason, I’m just way TOOhorny. I’d better stop writing and do something else, before I have an accidental ejaculation.
Mike.
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Texanguy Unregistered User (9/3/03 5:53 pm) Reply Mike Thanks for answering the questions.
If you are 'too horny' now, by all means concentrate on other things. I think sometimes it helps to just 'forget' about all of it (wet dreams, masturbation, reading, posting, and answering questions here) and just relax and go to sleep, with no worries about any of that.
As I said, I'd recommend not letting your brain learn how to have an orgasm from just arousal while awake. It can become too easy. It can prevent wet dreams, and feels nowhere near as good. But if it does happen, don't give up and masturbate!
Maybe it all means you're well on your way to your second wet dream.
Good luck!
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Texanguy Unregistered User (9/3/03 6:01 pm) Reply Welcome, MrUnix Welcome to our growing group. With a nickname like 'MrUnix', I imagine you'd have no trouble navigating around this site. You could get to know all of us better by reading all the previous postings.
They start with "Wet Dreams Continued???", then go through "Wet Dreams II, III, IV, V, and VI"
Give us your thoughts and experiences. Perhaps we should have a questionnaire for new people, but you can probably find a set of questions you could copy and paste along with your answers that would help us get to know you.
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focus Registered User (9/3/03 7:39 pm) Reply Texanguy Quote: Focus especially, you seem to be interested in research. You can get quite a bit of detail from a Google search on {"wet dreams" Karbonopsinos} about a guy who never masturbated and has several wet dreams a week .....
Thanks for the info Texanguy. I read up on Karbonopsinos' posts as you listed. Very interesting. I wish I could trade places with him with the wet dream situation. He was complaining about his wet dreams being so frequent. I would love to have his 'problem' of over 30 wet dreams in 2 years! He didn't masturbate at all, so that's even more supporting evidence for the theory that if you don't masturbate, wet dreams will happen.
Interesting that he was so hung up about masturbating. He seemed to hate his wet dream issue, yet refused to masturbate, even knowing it would likely solve his wet dream problem. I think he was a little mixed up sexually, probably from the way his parent raised him. He would probably find it funny that this group is trying to get wet dreams, while he's trying to get rid of his!
Quote: He is also a very unusual individual in other respects. Karbonopsinos is his posting name. He was a 17 year old genius who was a sophomore at an Ivy league college last year getting a double science degree.
Yes, he did seem incredibly bright, and wise well beyond his years.
Hey, for what its worth, I have an IQ of 133, which is borderline genius That kid seemed to have an IQ well above me though, and was on a whole other thought level, IMO. He did seem to have some genius qualities and quirks from what I can tell. His parents probably raised him to be a Jr. Einstein, and in the process isolated him from a lot of the real world, and, sex and sexual issues. I've seen that happen before with exceptionally bright kids. Their parents turn them into bubble boys, focused only on education, test scores, and book smarts. That kind of screws the kids up, IMO, and doesn't make them well rounded individuals. Its a shame.
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focus Registered User (9/3/03 7:46 pm) Reply Welcome, MrUnix Welcome to our little wet dream club, as I call it. I just joined here a few days ago myself. You're actually ahead of me slightly in terms of your masturbation abstinence - I've only got 4 days to your one week. But, we're close, and it will be nice to have someone here that is closer in abstinence schedule to me, as the next highest level is 45 days, and I feel like I'm way behind everyone else.
To all -
I set up the photo web page and tested it with the password protection, and its all set. So e-mail me your photos, and I'll post 'em and give you the address, username and password. I've got mine on there already.
Also, I need the rest of all your e-mail addresses - so far all I have is brahms28, and RonaldWDM.
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 3:03 pm |
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Texanguy Unregistered User (9/3/03 7:48 pm) Reply Go to Wet Dreams VI to continue This post is getting very long!
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focus Registered User (9/3/03 7:51 pm) Reply Mike Quote: Currently, for some reason, I’m just way TOOhorny. I’d better stop writing and do something else, before I have an accidental ejaculation.
Hang in there, Mike! I know you're having a very difficult time right now, but you gotta stick with it. Its good that you know when you need to stop writing, or whatever is turning you on and do something else. That's a skill I'll have to learn soon.
But we gotta see when your next wet dream will be. It sounds like it may be very soon considering what you've been going through.
Its amazing how that last wet dream you had wasn't much of a relief in terms of horniness or urges - its like the wet dream didn't change anything with that, unlike masturbation which would have had you wiped out and less interested for a while.
Hope you can keep it together - I'm rooting for ya!
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Texanguy Unregistered User (9/3/03 10:39 pm) Reply Guys My new email address, just for you guys, is XXXX.
I've been thinking about wet dreams vs masturbation for a while, and the experiences, feelings, and observations of Mike and Hoban seem to point in a certain direction.
It does seem that wet dreams do not reduce 'horniness', but at the same time both Mike and Hoban describe them as better and more intense than masturbation (as do many others). It also seems that even more and perhaps different semen is ejaculated. These are very clear distinctions between wet dreams and masturbation. Might there be others?
After months of not masturbating, we of course are having more arousal and erections; several guys even have very frequent ones. But we all seem to be enjoying this state, in and of itself. I think the consensus is that it has been an enjoyable experience, even without wet dreams -- even though they still remain our strongly desired goal.
Do any of you longer term nonmasturbators disagree or have comments about this?
Both experience and common sense says that masturbation reduces this pleasant 'erotic power', and would return us back to the 'old' (and boring?)feelings we had when we used to masturbate. But to me it's quite interesting and significant that wet dreams do not!
Isn't it kind of strange that masturbation will end this pleasant 'erotic power' and the enjoyment of it, but that you can have better, more intense and enjoyable orgasms, ejaculate even more semen, and still keep this 'erotic power' and maybe even increase it by having wet dreams?
It's becoming clearer that wet dreams and masturbation are in fact quite different. Wet dreams aren't a 'replacement' for masturbation, or the same as masturbation but while asleep. Wet dreams and masturbation are indeed different animals!
Which is better? Ask Mike and Hoban. Might this be an indication that nature 'prefers' guys not to masturbate, and makes it enjoyable and rewarding for them not to? Might that mean that masturbation is not as 'natural' as wet dreams, and is more like a bad habit?
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Texanguy Unregistered User (9/4/03 1:14 am) Reply Focus I was busy and missed your post about Karbonopsinos. I guess this is off our topic, but at least related, in that there was a lot of information there about a person who has frequent wet dreams. I agree with everything you said about him. I read almost all of his other posts, and his quirky brilliance comes through. Where other kids raised in a sheltered and intellectual environment might 'appear' bright, he clearly is.
The sad part was his occasional posts about how shy and lonely he was, and it seemed to be getting worse over the months he posted. He didn't seem suicidal, but he seemed to be going through the kinds of problems bright people in his position sometimes do. Being able to post at a site like that probably helped him, but I think ultimately he realized he was smarter and had more common sense than many of the older people he gave advice to, and he got tired of it. Unfortunately, I'm not sure he didn't go off some personal 'deep end'. He may have dropped out of school or had a nervous breakdown or something.
My IQ has tested over 160 on several informal IQ tests I've taken, including on the internet, but I do feel that at the age of 17, Karbonopsinos was quite above me now.
I'm not sure how accurate the IQ tests I took are. They may inflate the results to make people feel smarter. I never had a real one in school, only achievement tests. I was shy and lacking in self confidence as a kid, and came from a pretty unintellectual and strict authoritarian lower middle class background, and so I did not excel in school. But by the end of high school I used to enjoy beating the 'brainy kids' in physics and math exams, even though I didn't do much of the homework. I had a similar pattern in college: not study much or do much homework, and do anywhere from OK to outstanding on exams. I studied more in my last 2 years, and ended up with a decent grade point average.
So to some extent I empathized with Karbonopsinos, enough to join the site to send him a personal email, hoping to be able to reassure him in his isolation and loneliness in ways I didn't see him getting from responses to his posts. But it was months after he stopped posting, and there has never been a response. We'll probably never know what happened to him.
Running across his posts was an unusual, involving, and fascinating 'side effect' and detour from my web research on wet dreams. It was like flipping through the TV channels and finding an unexpectedly fascinating movie, and then finding that the last reel is missing and will never be found.
But this site is also amazing. I really do think some original research and expansion of knowledge is being done here, even if it's basically anecdotal and not strictly 'scientific'. We may end up seriously advancing real knowledge about wet dreams -- as well as enjoy them ourselves!
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Ronald WDM Registered User (9/4/03 10:23 am) Reply Welcome, Unix Welcome to our forum, Unix! I hope you enjoy it with us. I sent my photograph to Focus's site. So anyone can go there to see it. I'd like to see the rest of you as well there.
I have around 30 wet dreams in 2 years too. So that's a "problem" that I like to have. But they happen at random times, so I don't think they're the same as a woman's period.
Well I enjoyed waking up to a nice erection this morning. They're nice to have while waiting for my next wet dream.
Well it's nice to have all of us together in this common quest. Good luck to you all! And yes, wet dreams ar nature's prefered way for ejaculation.
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MrUnixUnregistered User (9/4/03 12:40 pm) Reply Glad to join! Hi everybody, nice and intresting thing's you write. Im just amazed how long youre texts get. Ive never had a wet dream, i learned very early masturbating, and my personal record not to masturbate must be 5 days i think. I have all ready read the past WET DREAM's here and felt like if im not gonna write here that i would be a chicken or something *hehe* Focus, here's my email tomiking33@hotmail.comMy naiv homepage >>> tomiking.homeunix.net By the way even i bought today some ZINK pills and Selen with E-vitamin pills. Took 1 of both 6 hours ago. My testicles feel very very big right now....I wouldt be surprised at all if i got a Wet Dream in some 7 days ahead.....Cant wait!...Im trying to not think of sex on daytime or when im awake so that my brain learns to do it when im sleeping. I have had few times past some dreams of having nice sex but i have never ejaculated, very disapointed but with you guys, im going for it! I dont smoke, dont drink at all if there aint no big speciel party so i live a very healthy life. I drink Coca Cola and i drink tea but i will maybe avoid even them a bit more, i train and im very fit, play hockey in winter and i use my PINEWOOD Mountainbike at summertime! My bedroom is damn cold now when oil heating in the house has not been started yet, heard that sperms grows more quickly in cool environment. Got to Study some mathematics now, the big test is next tuesday! Cya!
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focus Registered User (9/4/03 3:52 pm) Reply MrUnix MrUnix - I added your e-mail to the database. I need to ask you some more questions though to fill out your information, if you don't mind:
- Are you circumcised or uncut? - How much precum do you typically leak out? None, a little, moderate, lots)? - How man wet dreams have you had in the past, if any? How long ago were they? - What type of underwear do you sleep in? Nude, boxers, briefs, boxer-briefs, other? - Do you get spontaneous ejaculations when you stop masturbating (this might not apply until at least a month or 2 of not ejaculating).? - What was the date of your last ejaculation through masturbation?
Quote: By the way even i bought today some ZINK pills and Selen with E-vitamin pills. Took 1 of both 6 hours ago.
Cool - I have no idea if any of these will make a difference - I'm taking them because I heard they can help the prostate and helps in sperm production. I figured it can't hurt, and may add to my health, and if it helps me get a wet dream too, then great. It probably won't make a difference with wet dreams though.
Quote: My testicles feel very very big right now....I wouldt be surprised at all if i got a Wet Dream in some 7 days ahead.....Cant wait!
I hope you do get a wet dream that soon. But don't be disappointed if you don't! All indications so far is that it usually takes at least a month and a half of not masturbating to get a wet dream, and sometimes substantially longer than that. Just mentioning that so you don't get discouraged too quickly. I'm figuring it will be at least 2 months for me.
Quote: My bedroom is damn cold now when oil heating in the house has not been started yet, heard that sperms grows more quickly in cool environment.
It is true that sperm production is optimized several degrees cooler than body temperature. But the scrotum regulates the temperature of the testicles at optimum very well by itself, so unless you're facing extreme temperatures, there's no need to change the temperature in your house for better sperm production.
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focus Registered User (9/4/03 4:01 pm) Reply Texanguy Quote: My IQ has tested over 160 on several informal IQ tests I've taken, including on the internet, but I do feel that at the age of 17, Karbonopsinos was quite above me now.
WOW! 160! Well, you clearly fall in the genius category, which is 140 and above
Just when I was feeling smart, someone else comes along and blows me out of the water - hehe. J/K
Seriously, that's pretty rare to have an IQ that high. I don't know what the stats are for 160, but I know 180 and above is about 1 in a million.
See, I said this group had a bunch of smart people here! So with this collection of geniuses and near geniuses, you would think we could figure out how wet dreams work and how to get them on a regular basis, right? It couldn't be that difficult to decipher, could it?
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MrUnixUnregistered User (9/4/03 5:03 pm) Reply WD-Beginner Here's me again, The Wet Dream Beginner! Allrighty then focus, i will check my email once in a while, but now i will answer the questions. - Are you circumcised or uncut? = Uncut - How much precum do you typically leak out? None, a little, moderate, lots)? = Suprised when i read that many of you have a lot of precum, i dont have not much at all until today, i was just talking with a gir in phone who told that she liked me and so on and quess what, she asked me with very qute attityd if i wanted to have sex with her, it came like a shock, mean we are just in the beginning to become friends, so my penis leaked pretty much of precum after that. Then I told her that i wanted a Wet Dream that i have read much about in the Net, (we two are very open against other) and that i havent jerked off for a few days, and told also that she turned me like too much because i dont masturbate! *She did not think that i was weird* Im hoping to have a Wet Dream before i will go out on dates, help me! - How man wet dreams have you had in the past, if any? How long ago were they? = I have never had them before, and i have been like very curious even in the past to experience one. - What type of underwear do you sleep in? Nude, boxers, briefs, boxer-briefs, other? = Have tried nude before but i don't like it that much, my Ex-girlfriend always slept nude and wanted me too, many times i anyway slept with underwear. I have briefs and boxers, tight and untight! *now i have untight briefs on me* - Do you get spontaneous ejaculations when you stop masturbating (this might not apply until at least a month or 2 of not ejaculating).? = You meen that i come without masturbating on purpose? Never had one, NO! - What was the date of your last ejaculation through masturbation? = I have the date on my whiteboard and it reads, 2003-AUG-28 So that´s a full week now! Actually my personal record! Im horny but i can pretty easy think something else then sex, i have lots of homework from school....*it helps a little bit* Never been so horny when i talked to the girl in phone. IT WAS SO DIFFICULT, trying to not get horny even when i wanted to! My typical *ucking luck and very bad timing! I dont have an erection now but i got this heavy feeling under my belly and i feel pretty lazy! Hope those answers helped a bit! Ill try to think of some nice looking girl tonight before bed, not sex just some girl but i think i will get erection. Almost everynight i wake up with an erection and i just go to WC to pee so i can continue sleeping! * i usually can sleep all night long without waking up untill now!!!! Thats odd.......
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Texanguy Unregistered User (9/4/03 5:43 pm) Reply Focus I'm not sure my IQ is really that high, even though I got that score more than once, on different tests. But comparing myself to others leads me to believe it is pretty high. I think some of the written IQ tests rely (perhaps necessarily) on knowledge and experience to answer their questions more than the innate skills they are trying to measure.
I think IQ matters more to a person when they are young, or in my case in high school when I 'discovered' that I was smart. But as you get older, what you do and accomplish matters more, both to others and yourself. Sometimes I think having a higher IQ can make you see things too 'differently' from most people, and that is not always an advantage in a career or socially. I don't think there is a high correlation between a very high IQ and wealth or social success. Generally the most successful people seem to have moderately high IQ's, and of course there are lots of other personality attributes that count for as much or more than IQ.
I've noticed that unless a person already knows a person with a higher IQ and respects their intellect, if a high IQ person comes up with ideas, concepts, theories, or a better, faster, or simpler way of doing something that is quite different from existing ideas, the other person would rather ignore them or conclude that they are a 'flake' than examine the logic of their position. That's not always fun, especially when you know you are right, or as you watch someone insist on doing something the 'hard way'.
I've been an unemployed high tech engineer for quite a while, at least partly because I relocated to another state and got a new job just before the dot com bust. My resume looks like 'jack of all trades and master of none', but my previous employer before I relocated seemed to think 'master of many'. But I think my 'checkered experience' is making it harder to get a job.
But given all of that, and for whatever my opinion is worth, my impression is that your IQ. Focus, is probably higher than 133.
As far as figuring out wet dreams is concerned, you may be right. We not only have a lot of information and willing participants, we are probably smarter than the average professional researcher researching wet dreams -- if such people exist.
Whether it's 'IQ' or not, I see myself as having a knack for seeing the bigger picture, noticing patterns, and for coming up with theories or concepts that tie things together and makes sense out of them. In high tech, it can lead to faster understanding of the key issues, and perhaps an implementation of a simpler and quicker solution.
In wet dreams, hopefully the higher average intelligence here will give us more understanding of the wet dream process and find the best way to quickly and reliably get them. Already, though, the theories developed by my 'web research' seem to be yielding results and proving valid, which adds even more to our knowledge base and creation of more theories. But I'm still waiting to become a direct participant!
Karbonopsinos aside, I wonder if statistically that smarter people have more of a desire to experience wet dreams than less intelligent ones do? It seems a reasonable possibility.
Well, I'm sure others will post, and we can get back to the topic we are all here for!
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Texanguy Unregistered User (9/4/03 6:05 pm) Reply MrUnix Thanks for your information. Hopefully you will have a wet deam soon. But it may not happen that quickly, especially if you've never had one before.
Wet dreams generally tend to disappear when sexually active. A very few people can have them anyway, but once again since you never have, you probably wouldn't.
Keep us informed, and good luck!
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focus Registered User (9/4/03 6:28 pm) Reply Texanguy Quote: Whether it's 'IQ' or not, I see myself as having a knack for seeing the bigger picture, noticing patterns, and for coming up with theories or concepts that tie things together and makes sense out of them.
Me too! Emode's IQ test said I'm a "Visual Mathematician". Here's a quote from the report:
Quote: We also compared your answers with others who have taken the test, and according to the sorts of questions you got correct, we can tell your Intellectual Type is Visual Mathematician.
This means you are gifted at spotting patterns — both in pictures and in numbers. These talents combined with your overall high intelligence make you good at understanding the big picture, which is why people trust your instincts and turn to you for direction — especially in the workplace. And that's just some of what we know about you from your test results.
I guess that's why I immediately tried to identify wet dream patterns with the limited data we have here. I kind of didn't even realize I was doing it! I guess that's also why I like having a database of numbers and information, since I would have a better chance of seeing a pattern that way than with the information scattered about in different posts and threads.
Incidentally, I work a lot with IT at work. It's not my primary reponsibility, but I enjoy it and my company feels I'm great at it. I'm basically like a technology solutions advisor. I identify productivity problems and bottlenecks, and create and find technology solutions for them. Always trying to find a way to do things faster, better, cheaper.
Quote: Karbonopsinos aside, I wonder if statistically that smarter people have more of a desire to experience wet dreams than less intelligent ones do? It seems a reasonable possibility.
I don't think there's a correlation between desire (especially sexual desire) and intelligence. What do you think? I consider the desire for wet dreams a sexual desire.
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focus Registered User (9/4/03 6:40 pm) Reply MrUnix Quote: Allrighty then focus, i will check my email once in a while, but now i will answer the questions.
Thanks for the info - got you plugged into the database
What did you mean when you said you will check your e-mail once in a while? The e-mail is only for if this board gets shut down or disappears for whatever reason, we can e-mail each other to inform where the next board will be held. This way we won't lose track of each other.
Also, some of us are posting a picture of ourselves to a web page that only we can view. If you are interested in this and what we all look like, you can e-mail me your picture and I will send you the address to the web page and username and password info.
Quote: Im hoping to have a Wet Dream before i will go out on dates, help me! IT WAS SO DIFFICULT, trying to not get horny even when i wanted to! My typical *ucking luck and very bad timing!
I'm in a similar situation, although the girl I'm dating hasn't been so forthcoming about sex, which, I never thought I would ever say this, is actually good considering my wet dream program. I can't believe the poor timing though. Oh well. If things go somewhere with her, hopefully she'll be patient. She's the type that will think I'm a weirdo if I tell her I won't have sex because I'm trying to have a wet dream. Although she is Scandinavian, and you Europeans seem to be more open sexually than Americans.
So you told her you won't have sex with her right now until you get a wet dream? She wasn't angry or disappointed? Maybe she doesn't know how long it might take!?
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 3:06 pm |
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MrUnix Unregistered User (9/4/03 8:19 pm) Reply Sex or Wet Dream Yes, ok....good in case now that you anyway got my email.
This girl anyway, everything automatically started from sex therefor we are now so open with sex things and she aint shy about it wich amaze me a lot but believe me there are quite lot girls here who never talks about sex. I hate anyway to be a loser and im gonna get that Wet Dream. But girls and hunt for the Wet Dream dont seem to be the right combination even if lets say i would lick or masturbate this girl now i think just to do that i would mu self get orgasm and that would ruin everything. By the way she just asked me if i wanted to have sex with her and that was in the phone, i said like OH OH me? Yeah but but but how about you, she yes i would, then she asked me if we would try then how far would i go, and by that time my precums was wetting my briefs and i tought DAAAAMN! I was happy and dissapointed at the same time. I did mention to her 2 days ago that i saw something in Interner about WET DREAM and she was very intrested, once a girl opens for you sexually 100% then they are intrested in anything and maybe even more then we guys! Yet she wasnt dissapointed in my hunt for Wet Dream and i dont think that she knows how long it will take to get one.
Let's say shes a dream girl and lets see how i will combinate her and Wet Dream hunt. *enough about her* But this is my situation, very tough!
I will start tomorrow training ice hockey, eating healthy food, take my vitamins wich includes One a Day pills with a b c d e vitamins in, then Zink and Selen. So everything rolls pretty nice here exept the girl whos damn sexy and is after me, most bad timing! Must learn to set priorities, one is to complete my math test, second to have a Wet Dream and a very close 3rd place have fun with the girl just like her who called med today. I was so nervous when she called me, maybe she took some advantages of that, shes asked all kindes of questins, i almost said to here i cant breath heheh or something! =)
Good night my friends where ever you are and good luck with you, i pray here that you will have a Wet Dream!
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Texanguy Unregistered User (9/4/03 9:17 pm) Reply Focus It sounds like we have similar mental aptitudes and proclivities.
I don't know of any correlation between higher intelligence and the strength of the sex drive, but I do think intelligence may affect how it gets expressed.
It takes a certain mind set to defer orgasms for a long time, while at the same time visualize different and hopefully better ones. It implies seeing things longer term, and a willingness to defer a 'reward' until later.
In this world's culture, it also takes a certain individuality and 'thinking for yourself' to be weird and nonconformist enough to seriously take on the pursuit.
I think there are probably several personality traits that may correlate with expressing sexuality by pursuing wet dreams, and I wouldn't be surprised if above average intelligence is one of them.
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 6:26 am |
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focus Registered User (9/4/03 10:07 pm) Reply dream question for everyone... I have a question for everyone:
How often do your dream at night? I'm not talking about wet dreams or sexual dreams per se, just dreams in general? Dreams that you can remember, obviously.
I find that I'm not a frequent dreamer when I sleep. I would estimate I get a vivid dream that I can remember well the next morning, perhaps once or twice a month. But I sleep well, and I'm a heavy sleeper (I could sleep through a tornado). I go to sleep, and there's nothingness. I wake up, and it was like I was in a black hole for 8 hours. Kind of boring...
I have also noted that I get many more dreams during times of stress in my life. When I'm fully stressed, I'll get a vivid dream every night. If there's little to no stress in my life, I get no dreams (that I can remember anyway).
Has anyone else noticed this too? Do you guys experience more frequent dreams?
The vivid dreams I do get are great - sometimes so real I wasn't sure I was awake or not. But those are rare. I've also had sexual dreams before that were fantastic, but didn't get to orgasm or ejaculation (except for my 1 wet dream of course).
I would think that people that have frequent memorable general dreams would be more likely to get a wet dream than people who rarely dream. What do you think?
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 6:33 am |
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Texanguy Unregistered User (9/4/03 10:41 pm) Reply Non-wet dreams This is an excellent question. Mike clearly had several vivid erotic dreams before his wet one, and Hoban mentioned at least erotic 'dry' one before his. The question is, do they also have (or remember) more 'regular' dreams than the rest of us?
I don't remember my dreams much, but I never did, even at the times I had a rare wet dream -- which I did remember. It's generally known that dreams occur in REM sleep (and so do erections), and that if you are awakened from REM sleep you usually remember the dream. An alarm clock may cause that to happen, but I usually wake up first, even when I had a job to go to. I think you usually remember wet dreams precisely because you DO wake up right after them.
I had a statistically unreasonably high percentage of my few wet dreams when travelling across time zones. I was never a frequent traveller. That could indicate that at least for me, a disrupted sleep pattern may influence them. Or being busy and stressed for the trip. Or being surrounded by a new and different environment. More pieces to the puzzle?
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 6:33 am |
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focus Registered User (9/5/03 12:26 am) Reply Texanguy Quote: It's generally known that dreams occur in REM sleep (and so do erections), and that if you are awakened from REM sleep you usually remember the dream.
So do you mean if you're not awakened during REM sleep that you won't remember your dream? Because I usually wake up naturally without an alarm clock. Like I just wake up when I'm done sleeping. So maybe I am dreaming a lot, and just not remembering any of them?
I never thought to track when I get a dream I remember, with if I was awakened in the middle of the dream be it an alarm clock or whatever. But, I will from now on. Hmmm, interesting...
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 6:34 am |
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MrUnix Unregistered User (9/5/03 7:55 am) Reply Hmmm! Your'e right, but what im looking for is some guaranteed ways to get a Wet Dream. And i tought that all of us could do their own list of things that would increase chances of having a Wet Dream so here's mine.
Maybe positive mental mind, when you feel yourself safe from worries and all that.
Eat healty foods! And maybe Zink and Selen pills.
Not thinking sex when awake.
I chat with a friend who had a Wet Dream a month ago and he said that he had looked a picture all day long of a beatifull looking girl. *hmm*He said it would be enough if i hold 2 weeks from masturbating. *hmm* I think i need perhaps more time!
And what else could be good?
I cannot come with any more ideas or things that may increase chances having a Wet Dream. By the way i trained today Ice Hockey, im feel like an spaghetti now! Hope you can understand what im writing here =)
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 6:34 am |
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Texanguy Unregistered User (9/5/03 8:57 am) Reply Focus I've seen studies about dreams on TV. They said that most people dream every night, but typically don't remember them.
They had had subjects sleeping in a lab, and would wake them up when they detected REM (Rapid Eye Movement)sleep, and the subjects always had a dream to report.
It's pretty well accepted that normal people have several REM cycles each night, and that dreams occur during them that people normally don't remember. It is also at that time that erections occur while asleep. Virtually every normal male those erections, even if they don't remember doing so.
People sometimes remember dreams from earlier during the night in the morning, so there may be some kind of 'leakage' of memories from REM sleep without being awakened from it. On the other hand, perhaps all dreams are remembered only when waking up from REM sleep, whatever the reason. I don't know which is true, but sleep researchers might.
So being dreams, wet dreams must occur during a normal REM cycle. People usually wake up from them, perhaps from the intensity. It's a good thing they do, otherwise the only sign you had a wet dream might be wetness in the morning.
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Texanguy Unregistered User (9/5/03 9:32 am) Reply MrUnix All of us here are trying to figure out guaranteed ways to have wet dreams. The first step has been to see what people who have them do and don't do, especially those who have made a transition from having no wet dreams to now having them. So far, the only thing for sure seems to be that they all quit masturbating long enough. Even that fundamental correlation does not seem to be generally known, and I think many people who masturbate resist that idea.
But certain things make sense to do. One is a healthy diet, perhaps supplemented with vitamins and minerals. Another is exercise and overall body health. Exercise with weights to build muscle also stimulates testosterone, as does eating enough 'good' fats.
Not thinking about sex while awake may be a factor. It will certainly help keep you from masturbating or engaging in sex. But at the same time, it appears that some people get lots of erections while awake when they haven't masturbated for a while, and they can still get wet dreams.
I think right now we don't know for sure how much being frequently aroused and erect while awake affects wet dreams. But I do think that at least some people who have frequent wet dreams don't get lots of erections every day.
Two weeks without masturbating MAY give someone a wet dream. But I think that is true mainly for people who have done that many times before. I think that two weeks may be too short for a 27 year old who never had one. But that doesn't mean it can't happen.
Good luck!
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Ronald WDM Registered User (9/5/03 10:07 am) Reply dreaming I enjoyed reading everyone's comments. I think I usually have 4 or 5 wet dreams at night, but I remember some more than others. Last night I had an interesting dream where I was going to be massaged by a lady. But unfortunately I woke up before she did it. So I don't know what it would have led up to.
Well I believe that there were 10 days between my last wet dream and Mike's wet dream, then 7 days betwween his and Hoban's. So I wonder how long a gap between people here having wet dreams there will be this time. There's currently been 19 days since my last one. So I hope to have another one soon.
Well I wish everyone the best in having a wet dream. Take care!
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focus Registered User (9/5/03 10:41 am) Reply Texanguy Thanks for the info on dreams. I remember having some dreams last night, that I vaguely remember partially waking up from and realizing that it was a dream in kind of a trance (like I wasn't fully conscious). The dreams were completely non-sexual and about a bunch of stupid things. Like I have an aerosol air freshener in my bathroom that needs to be replaced with a new cartridge. I remember dreaming about that - LOL. Like who cares? Of all the things to dream of!
One thing of interest though, was that I was thinking of that air freshener that day. So I'm wondering if things that you think about while you're awake during the day - that day - have more of a chance of manifesting themselves into your dreams last night. That seemed to be the case with MrUnix's friend who looked at a picture a lot during the day then had a wet dream about it at night.
I also know that things that turn me on during the day and get me sexually excited - I mean really excited so I fantasize about it - definitely manifest themselves into sexual dreams that night or subsequent nights. It had to be real though - like a real woman I met that turned me on. I get excited about porn too, but I never dream about characters that I've seen in porn. I only dream about real people. Anyone else experience this too?
Quote: So being dreams, wet dreams must occur during a normal REM cycle.
I agree. And all the evidence points to that. I know my wet dream was during the REM cycle, as it was early in the morning, at about 5-6 AM. REM cycles usually occur late in the sleep duration, and the later ones are usually more intense. I think both Mike and Hoban had their wet dreams around 3 AM and 5AM if I recall, which should be prime REM time.
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focus Registered User (9/5/03 10:53 am) Reply some theories Oh, I forgot to add some theories that I've developed about wet dreams:
Remember how I said that I seemed to get more vivid, memorable dreams when I'm under more stress? Well, I was thinking that abstaining from masturbation or sex creates increasing levels of sexual stress in our minds. Our minds are programmed at a very low level to constantly have this release of semen, in the name of reproduction and survival of the species. Its a primal thought process that all animals have. As humans, we have more control over that throught process than animals, but nonetheless its still there, and its very strong. When we deny the mind the release of this semen, I think it increases sexual stress levels in the mind, and we can feel that during the day through increased horniness, more erections, more precum, and just this tremendous urge to masturbate or have sex.
The mind tries to deal with this sexual stress by having dreams about it. Just like the mind (my mind at least) deals with everyday stress by having dreams at night.
Because I've definitely noticed a correlation with me between stress and frequency and intensity of dreams in general.
I wonder if there's something natural besides stress that would help induce more vivid dreams? Like a natural herb or something? I know my uncle quit smoking and went on the "patch" to quit, and a known side effect of the patch are strange and vivid dreams when sleeping, which he said he got a lot of. They weren't sexual dreams, but like hallucinagenic (sp?) dreams.
I'm just thinking that the more we have vivid dreams at night, the more chance we have that one of those dreams will be a sexual dream becoming a wet dream.
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