Wet Dream Forum

Texanguy
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(8/28/03 12:12 am)
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Wet Dreams IV

Let's continue here.

Dickenson
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(8/28/03 8:28 am)
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hello, man

Dear Texanguy, I think we wrote almost at the same time just now. I guess you guys in the US are awake by now; and I just wanna thank you for the reply. I hope Mike will give us all the answers very soon, because I’m ready to ask him some more questions regarding his latest wet dream.

Mike, please, please try to answer all our questions. I know you’re good, man! (Just to let you know, Texanguy IS waiting for your reply that he’s checking in here sooo often ever since you shot the spooge while you’re asleep! He’s eager to learn more tips from you; like the rest of us). Delicious wet dreams…I WANT THEM!!!!! I’M VERY SURE!!!!

Texanguy, don’t feel bad. This is a sample of male of different backgrounds, cultures, and etc. So, each guy is unique. In fact, I’m the one who’s supposed to be bored about all this waiting because I’m the youngest here (but so what?)! What I’ll do is to just keep going, and wait. Let it happen…it’ll come ONE day, Texanguy…I’m sure…

Q: Are there any statistics that revealed how many guys had had a wet dream each day? [Sounds interesting, but I guess no one in this world can provide a definite answer. May be a guess will be good. Ronald? Texanguy?].

Hmm…my penis is not so hard today, I wonder why. The weather’s rather hot today…

Texanguy, I think you made a mistake this time. How can “… the biggest distinction seems to be that their definition of ‘wet dream’ can apply to BOTH SEXES, whereas ‘nocturnal emission’ applies only to males, since it specifically refers to the discharge of semen. ‘Seminal discharge’ means the discharging of semen…”?

Man, do you mean to tell me that semen is from women? My idea was (and is) that guys produced them. If you look at my definitions again, both gave ‘semen’ and ‘seminal emission’ respectively.

After all the considerations, I guess the main difference is that nocturnal emission MUST happen at night, wet dreams: any time of the day. In both cases, the man MUST be asleep, and semen must be ejaculated through the hard length of the man. Both must be triggered by an erotic dream. Others are free to comment on this. I’m still quite confused. Bro Ron, I want to hear from you. Thanks.

Well, I hope someone had had some good news today. I hope I’ll go lucky today too!

brahms
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(8/28/03 1:18 pm)
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Thank you my friends....

Sorry for taking so long to send my reply. I’ve been reading your posts, but I’ve been quite busy lately.

Wow… that’s a lot of questions. I may not have the answers for all of them, but let me try anyway.

Texanguy:
1. My recent attitude about masturbation is the one you have when you share sex with a regular partner. You prefer to wait and have sex with her, instead of wasting you energy with masturbation. It’s not that I don’t think about it. It’s just that I prefer not to do it. I don’t touch my penis, and when I’m having a shower, I just clean it quickly, especially if I have an erection. But, I must confess, that still the idea of masturbating sometimes comes to my mind. So I can say, that I’m still resisting the desire of masturbation, but at this point I know, I can fight it.

2. Erections are ALWAYS there. At any time. With the vibration of the car, when I have a shower, when I go to bed, when I wake up, when I look for something in my pocket and I accidentally hit my penis…

3. Yes, you are right. I was talking about a software application that I finally made work. That relieved my stress, ‘cause the due date to deliver it to the customer was approaching. However, this did not soften my arousal when awake.

(hold on… I’ve got to pee..)
oook. Much better!


4. I’ve been working out regularly for one year or so. No change.

5. Yes, I’ve been focusing on wet dreams. Sometimes, when I get an erection, I imagine myself sleeping and having an orgasm of great pleasure. Like, sometimes you imagine having sex. I do not see myself masturbating. I honestly think this may have helped.

6. YES!. Although my wet dream was really wet, I still feel a lot of power. My erections had not been so strong before. The day and night arousal continues to be really high, but I feel a little relief about the pressure down there.

7. I think I woke up about ten minutes after the wet dream, and that was because I was feeling uncomfortable with my wet t-shirt. The erection came when I realized what had happened. I saw my penis so big, that I grabbed a ruler and I measured it. I cetainly had trouble to go back to sleep (it was 5:30am), because I wanted to tell you guys, and I wanted to take another look at the stains.

8. The dream felt tremendous. Much better than masturbation, ‘cause the feeling is generalized, in all the body. I see masturbation more localized (perhaps, because you can not caress yourself…)

9. Mmmm. No. As I said in (1), I still fight masturbation. But I definitely want to have more wet dreams. Let’s say, that my erotic dreams have become my sexual partner.

10. Yes. Definitely the orgasm is more prolonged. And now I’m sure, that the watery part came before, and I was dreaming something else. So I actually had two wet dreams, one after the other.


Ronald:
1. Yes, for me it has been unavoidable to keep thinking that the upcoming night, could be the one. So, it did not take me by surprise. But, it’s a matter of hope. It’s not like I go to bed, telling myself “I’ll have a wet dream, I’ll have a wet dream…”

2. No. I don’t recall any other person in my dream. It was just me, picturing myself as a fountain.


Dickenson:
1. Yes. I saw my own tool. What it’s interesting is that if I lay down with an erection, my penis also lays horizontally over my belly. But in the dream, it made a 90 degrees angle with my body. Like a tower.
Anyway, I was very excited, and that made the fountain do its job!

2. Yes, I had to change my boxers and my t-shirt. I was also sweating a lot.

3. I wear only boxers to sleep. No briefs. It’s more comfortable.

4. Ups.. no. I did not taste the spots. Too bad, I should’ve done it.

5. Interestingly, the semen that I usually get from masturbation is stickier, but the one I got in my wet dream, was very thick. But in any case, they are very different.

6. Thanks for your comments about my penis. I don’t think is “giant” anyway.
As I said in a previous post, I use to think it was kind of average. I knew it was quite bigger than my friend’s, but since it looks like any other penis in porno movies, I thought it was standard.
I measured long time ago, and it was 18cm. However, following Texanguy recommendations, (allowing the ruler to make a little pressure on the pubic bone), I gained one more centimeter. But it might be so many erections, and the huge amount of hormones that must be circulating in my body, that are making it put on one more centimeter. My only recommendation is not to try to shut down the erections, as I heard they are good, and they provide oxygen to the member.
Unfortunately, I did not do anything to make it grow. It’s been always like that.

7. Yes, my foreskin retracts easily. In fact, I’ve noticed that lately it lets the tip of my penis show, even when flaccid. It’s sometimes annoying, as the tip of my penis is very sensitive, and the contact with my underwear, kind of bothers me. It was not always like that, though. I used to have trouble to retract it. The only thing I did to fix it was to masturbate fully retracting it using some kind of lubricant oil.

Well, I think that’s about it.
Dickenson, please send the questions you have in your notepad. I’m willing to answer all of them. Same for Texanguy and Ronald.

I’m sure you all are very close to your wet dream. I’ll be here with you, fighting for my second and third and forth…

A big hug, for all of you.

Mike.

Ronald WDM
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(8/28/03 9:23 pm)
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Wet Dreams

Thanks for your comments. Concerning wet dreams and nocturnal emissions, Dickenson, while technically it's not a nocturnal emission if it happens during the day, I think they're generally the same thing. And I think they should call it a nocturnal orgasm or something like that for the female equivalent of them, since they don't get wet with semen, like guys do.

When exactly was your wet dream, Mike, since you said that you were anxious to tell us about it, which you did on Wednesday morning. But you also said that you'd gone to work, gone to the gym, and even had dinner after your wet dream, when you told us about it. So did you have it on Tuesday morning? I was just wondering. Thanks for all of your answers you gave to us.

Well I wish everyone the best in pursuing their wet dream. It's nice knowing you all.

brahms28
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(8/29/03 2:53 am)
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Clarification

Ronald:

No, my wet dream was on tuesday night. What I meant to say was that during the day, I just went to work, then I went to the gym, I had dinner, then during the night the wet dream came. I woke up (wednesday already), and I wanted to start writing at 5:30 in the morning.

Mike.

Texanguy
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(8/29/03 2:57 am)
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Guys

Dickenson, thanks for your encouragement. It only makes sense to continue not to masturbate and pursue our wet dreams.

I'm not sure where the problem is with the definitions:

Wet Dream: An erotic dream that results in an orgasm. This has become generically applied to both sexes, since some females can have orgasms while sleeping, as well as males.

Nocturnal emission: Expelling of semen while asleep, generally in a wet dream. Obviously refers only to males. Expelling of semen is also called seminal discharge.

Both men and women can have 'wet dreams' (at least in the looser definition of orgasms while asleep), but only males can have nocturnal emissions.


Mike, Thanks for all your detailed answers. It must have taken some time and thought.

I appreciate all of the answers, but the ones that seem most relevant include the fact that there was no change in the level of your waking erections just before the wet dream from the high level you had been experiencing recently. In other words, there was no change in 'waking erections' that indicated a shift of focus to wet dreams, and so apparently you can have frequent erections while awake and still have wet dreams. (This will be a relief to Dickenson!)

Another interesting answer was how you handled the ideas of masturbation vs wet dreams. Perhaps we can all try for similar attitudes about masturbation, and imagine ourselves enjoying better orgasms in wet dreams.

The third interesting answer is that after a wet dream you still feel 'a lot of power' and have strong erections. Masturbation can give you a 'let down' afterwards, and leave you 'turned off' for a while. Wet dreams don't do that. You are immediately able to get frequent erections after a wet dream and are eager and ready for the next one!

But the most significant one is your statement "The dream felt tremendous. Much better than masturbation." That pretty much says it all!

You support what many other people who have wet dreams say about them. It seems to me that it's not a coincidence. 'Mother Nature' must make wet dreams more enjoyable than masturbation for a reason. That implies that wet dreams are more 'natural' and are 'preferred' by nature over masturbation. But most guys get too 'hooked' on masturbation to ever realize that wet dreams are indeed the better way.

There may come a time in the future when the 'complete story' about masturbation and wet dreams is known and taught in schools. Then, if and when a young guy masturbates, he will look forward to the time he can quit and get better, more natural, and more 'grown up' orgasms in wet dreams exclusively.

But for now, guys are always looking for better ways to masturbate and have more intense orgasms. Most never realize that the best and most intense orgasms are when you don't masturbate at all, and move on to wet dreams!

Mike, I'm sure we are all eager to have you continue to post and relate your thoughts, ideas, and experiences.

Dickenson
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(8/30/03 7:21 am)
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Questions for MIKE (latest WD Guy)

Hello men, I’m back! I was rather busy the other day, so I didn’t answer your post, men. I’ll be here whenever I’m free. Like Mike (a.k.a. our Mr. Biggie), I’ll be here reporting to you guys my 1st, 2nd, 3rd,…wet dreams…I’m very lucky indeed to meet a bunch of dudes here who’re going for the same goal. It’s been really nice joining this place.

Ronald, Texanguy: Thanks for those wise suggestions on the definitions. I hope you guys will get lucky end of this month!! By the way that’s a funny yet dirty joke, Bro Ron! Thanks for that (for it caused an immediate respond from my faithful boy scout).

Mike, thank you so much for that long reply. I enjoyed reading that. As promised, I’ll ask you some more questions here (from my little WD note pad, hehe).

Questions on your BIG DAY:

1. What time did you slept that night? Was that your usual time, or you just go to bed due to extreme exhaustion?

2. Are you sleeping with someone that day? So the room is shared or…?

3. Did you pee before going to bed?

4. What’s the food you ate before bed? Please comment on the drinks too. (if you can recall).

5. When going to bed, were you very full or hungry or what?

6. Are you currently smoking/ indulged in heavy drinking (certain studies indicate that alcohol (in small amount) can help the arteries to dilate; in turn ballooning the manhood).

[My penis is so hard right now…the tip is quite juicy these days, though the foreskin is tightly securing it. A little touch on the ‘endings’ of the oh-so-sensitive foreskin is what it takes for a major erection. Anyway…]

7. Besides wearing a T- shirt and a boxer, do you wear anything else?

8. Was your boxer quite tight? Do you think the friction provided by the boxer helps to trigger your penis to get hard that day and caused him to do all the show by himself?

9. Do you think other factors e.g., bolster, pillows, blankets, quilts might make you get hard while you’re sleeping?

10. Before going to bed, how’s the quality of your erection (semi hard/ moderate/ supreme)?

11. You mentioned that you went to the gym that day (as usual). Do you reckon this contribute to the wet dream? (I’m quite an active guy, doing all the push-ups and sit-ups and whole body stretching everyday in my dorm. What’s your comment on this?)

12. Do you recommend total body (excluding Him, of course) stretching before going to bed? (I did that everyday; may be that affects my wet dream).

13. What’s the position of your body when you’re going to sleep? What about the position when you’re cumming?

14. Describe the position of your penis when you’re ejaculating.

15. You said that you’re actually having TWO wet dreams that lucky night. Were there actually TWO SEPARATE shooting sessions; with some ‘rest’ in between?

16. Can you tell me around how many ‘spurts’ did your penis did in order to fire the seed? (…aaahhh…) Did you groaned and moaned like that that time?

17. Describe the pulse of your penis during that ‘moment’. (Hehe…)

18. The erection you get during a wet dream is different from those usual ones. Do you agree with my opinion? (I think they’re of high quality; being sooooo diamond hard (rock hard IS an understatement here) and squirt the fluid out of those little sacs at the same time). What do you think, man?

19. How do you place your Joey when you’re wearing briefs? Pointing up or down? Why you chose this method? (Ron and me are the ‘point up’ type; erections are easier this way).

[Oh my, my little boy is extremely (x100) naughty today. One more friction and I’ll explode! I’m taming the boy…]

20. During the wet dream, you can actually feel that your thick length is pumping out the sperm, right? Do you feel that there’s a super hard erection before that? I was wondering why is this called ‘dreaming’ (while you’re in deep sleep); since you can actually ‘feel’ things and ‘you know what’s happening down there’. Please, please clear this mess for me, Mike. Thanks!

21. During the wet dream, what’s the position of your head? Did you saw the ‘stars’ in the ‘internal eyes’ of your mind during the wet dream? (I used to seeing them last time when the wet dream is taking place).

22. Did you ever taste your own essence before? Any comment about its nature, properties,…? (I know each guy likes them…me too!)

23. Anybody else (excluding us) knows about your latest encounter? Will you tell them if you had the chance? (To me, I won’t. That’s a too personal matter…)

24. About your heavy breathing that night: do you breath with your mouth as well (since oxygen is of great demand that time...)?

25. I FULLY agree with your idea of ‘the generalized feeling’ on the whole body during a wet dream. That’s something masturbation alone can’t achieve! So, can you briefly describe that feeling on the whole body? (I know that intense feelings can’t be expressed in words, but please, please tell me how, using simple language.)

26. Was there something pressing the tool when you’re scoring?

27. About how many hours of sleeping does it took for the auto-shooting to occur? So, that’s about how long after you’d fall into slumber?

28. What’s the condition of your room that day? Dark? Bright? Please state the climate (or temperature) of your room and the surroundings.

I’m sorry if you find these questions irritating. But, Mike, I just wanna be a good listener about somebody’s delicious wet dream. Please take your time in answering them, and please, please answer all of them. I’m sorry if I make your Perky Johnson stand tall like a tower when reading this post. Just tell him to be a good boy (and you too). [I’m having a very macho boy right now…uuurrrggghhh!]

Thanks again, Mike. I hope you’ll score again soon!
For those guys once involved here, GOOD LUCK! I’d like to hear from your experience too!!!

Dickenson
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(8/30/03 7:34 am)
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Record your BIG DAY, Mike

Mike, I think you forgot to record your latest wet dream in that wonderful wet dream calendar created by Ronald, the most respected Wet Dream Mentor here.

That post’s entitled “Keeping Tracks of Wet Dreams”. Check it out. So remember everyone, each time you become a lucky boy while you’re sleeping, proceed to that calendar immediately!

All the best, and enjoy your wet dreams!!!

Texanguy
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(8/30/03 9:58 am)
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Dickenson

Glad to see you are hanging in there and interested in all the things that lead up to Mike's wet dream. To be 'scientific', we sometimes need to ask questions that may seem irrelevant to get at what helped cause something.

My guess is that it has more to do with the 'mental state' than anything else. Of course what you ate, what time you went to bed, etc may affect that.

My own experience with the few wet dreams I had years ago was that they all seemed to occur while sleeping on my back, even though I usually fall asleep on my stomach or side, and have trouble falling asleep on my back. I saw very little correlation with the time of going to sleep, what I ate, etc. The biggest correlation I've noticed was being in a strange place or time zone. A few of the wet dreams I had were when travelling across time zones and sleeping in an unfamiliar bed, even though I never traveled that much. It may be due to disturbed sleeping patterns, the travel itself, or being rather busy and occupied with other things while awake.

In a wet dream you are dreaming that you are having an orgasm, and you really are. But I don't think you are aware of being in bed. You are 100% in a 'dream world'. That's why the orgasm can last much longer, be more intense, or perhaps result (in your dream world) in releasing many gallons of water (semen) as a fountain. So I tend to think that the causes of a wet dream are more 'internal' than 'external'. I'm not sure that the exact position of the penis, what you are wearing, feeling of the sheets, blankets, etc matter that much. I think that if your brain is seriously ready to have a wet dream, not much would stop it!

I'm still not getting as aroused or erect as often as you guys while awake. I think part of it is my past experience which tells me that I might go all the way to an unwanted orgasm with no physical stimulation if I got too aroused. I've never had a wet dream since that started happening. (Last two times it happened were in April of this year.) But if that can happen while I'm awake, it tells me that I should be quite capable of having orgasms in my sleep as well. It's a matter of 'hitting the right switch' while asleep.

I still tend to think that when you are saying to yourself 'no orgasms allowed' while awake, your body may tend to follow those same instructions while it's asleep, since when dreaming you think you are awake. The trick is to 'allow' orgasms while asleep while 'prohibiting' them while awake. Becoming a 'fountain' is one way!

Mike said he imagined himself having wet dreams. I think that visualizing ourselves having them can be helpful, but I just haven't spent much time on it. Visualization and imagining accomplishing a goal can be quite powerful techniques. Ronald, Mike, and many others all show that not masturbating is a fundamental part of having wet dreams. Since we don't masturbate either, and have no plans to, the only difference between us and people having several wet dreams a week is in our brains. Yet we know that the human brain is more flexible than previously thought, and can be 'retrained' in a variety of ways. This is definitely one of them! If you say something and imagine a situation over and over again to your subconscious, it will start believing it. Those of us who have had a few wet dreams are ahead of many other people who never had any.

I'm going to write up and print out something to help 'program' myself to have wet dreams, and read it several times a day. And there is nothing wrong with telling yourself several times a day that you have many enjoyable wet dreams, and that they are much better and more natural than masturbation. And that you can't stand masturbation at all any more!

brahms28
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(8/30/03 1:01 pm)
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Hola Amigos.

How are you doing?

Dickenson. Mr. Biggie? Haha. That’s a good one. My best friends have a nickname for me as well, but that one is way to coarse to post it here.

Let me try to answer your questions:

1. I go to bed at any time between 11:00pm and 12:30am. That day I went to bed at midnight. I guess I was tired, but just as usual.
2. Yes, I do share my room with a mate. He did realize what was happening… that was unavoidable.
3. I always pee b4 going to bed. I have a small bladder. J
4. My diet has been the same since I arrived to London. Eggs in the morning, Chicken or fish with rice for lunch, and something like Japanese, Chinese food or just a sandwich for dinner.
5. No… I never go to sleep if I’m hungry. I have to fix that first!
6. I don’t smoke (I hate smoking), and I don’t drink either. Just wine or Scotch one or two times a month. In fact, I have noticed that when I drink, my penis hangs longer, but it won’t go completely hard if I wanted it to.
7. No, that’s all I wear to go to bed. Sometimes I just go naked.
8. My boxer was very loose. Probably the friction helps, but in any case, it must have been friction with my t-shirt.
9. Mmmm. Nop. I usually put a pillow between my legs, but given the nature of the dream, I don’t think it helped.
10. Before going to bed, I usually experience a supreme erection. I think, that day my erection was just moderate.
11. Yes, I do think that keeping the body active could help. I have a friend who don’t exercise at all and is always complaining of his low performance in sex related issues. I have another friend, who is in perfect physical conditions, and he is always hard, anywhere, anytime. He is also able to have multiple orgasms. In the other hand, I’ve heard that stretching is a must, for everyday life.
12. I… I don’t know. I would say yes.
13. I usually fall asleep on my side, (either side). But when I woke up from my wet dream, I was sleeping on my back.
14. My penis was lying on my belly, pointing to my left shoulder. That was for the first ejaculation. For the second one, I don’t have any idea, because I had one stain in the back, and one in the boxers.
15. Yes, I guess there was some rest in between. I don’t believe it was more that 5 minutes.
16. haha… I don’t know. But I’m absolutely sure, they were more that 10. The orgasm left me really exhausted.
17. You know… in my dream, the pulses were very paused. Not like the ones you get with masturbation. It might be just a wrong impression. What I do know, judging by the shape of the stain is that there was a huge pressure down there when firing.
18. My erection must have been very hard, as my penis was able to escape from the boxers.
19. When wearing briefs, I usually put it pointing up-left. But he likes to point down. So, after a while, he makes his way to the bottom of my briefs. If I get an erection, it just escapes through the legs opening, (which is very embarrassing).
20. I know, I had an erection for a while, before shooting. (When I touched it, it was very hot). So may be the same thing happened the nights before, but I unfortunately woke up too early.
21. My head…I don’t know… I was just admiring myself, with such a tall tower, expelling liquid. Haha. All I know is that I was astonished with the scene.
22. Yes, I did. It tastes kind of sweet, but I personally don’t like it.
23. Yes. My roommate knows. But, that’s ok. He is very open mind. And so am I with his sex related things.
24. Yes. I use my mouth to breath. My nose it’s just ornamental… it does not work.
25. Wow… The feeling in all my body… How can I explain that?. The thing is, that when you masturbate, you feel the orgasm: The spasms, the delicious and relieving feeling of the semen coming out, your body shaking, etc. Whereas in a wet dream, there are more feelings involved. It’s like having additional happiness, and the prolonged orgasm reaches the tip of the toes, the axils, the mouth becomes watery with so much saliva, your head… All this happens, and the penis keeps on making contractions…
26. Nop that I’m aware of.
27. Around five hours.
28. My room was dark, and cool.(A/C).


Ok! That’s it. Sorry if you expected more details answers for some of your questions, but unfortunately, there are things that I don’t know. For some others, all I can give is my best guess.

By the way, I noticed a relief in the pressure down there after my wet dream. But today, I started to feel it again. When I went to the steam room at the gym, I noticed involuntary contractions. Like the ones you experiment when shooting, but a little bit softer. They came every 10 seconds or so. My penis was flaccid, but I left the room, because I was afraid of having an ejaculation in front of everybody. What was that….?????? Any ideas?

Take care guys and good luck. I might be getting closer to another wet dream. I’m having an erection right now that is becoming almost uncontrollable. It might be a sign.

Bye.

Mike.

Texanguy
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(8/30/03 2:49 pm)
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Brahms

Mike,
Thanks for your complete answers to Dickenson's questions. I noticed that you had your wet dream on your back, even though you fall asleep on your side, as I do. That may mean that wet dreams happen more easily while sleeping on your back, but it may be that a person moves to sleeping on his back during the dream state. I know it seems hard for me to fall asleep on my back in bed.

There was one more question I had: You said you normally get erect before going to bed. But are you normally erect when you fall asleep, or do you usually drift off to sleep without an erection?

As to feeling close to an ejaculation without an erection in the steam room, it is definitely possible to have one, since it has happened to me several times (although not in a steam room). An ejaculation that way does not feel as good as masturbation, let alone having the intensity and 'whole body' feelings of a wet dream. It happened to me again last month, and can be quite frustrating when you want wet dreams. I would say that you should try to avoid letting ejaculations like that happen. If you start having them, they might become easier and easier to have, making it harder to save it for wet dreams. Keep the focus on wet dreams! Don't let your body get used to other, much less rewarding ways to have an orgasm.

I think you'll be having more wet dreams soon. Your brain has already made the 'connection', and you are obviously committed to having more. Once the 'wet dream' mechanism is fully in place, I think there is no reason why a person can't have several wet dreams a week. It's hard to imagine anyone who has several wet dreams that often ever bothering with masturbation again.

We will want to hear about your future wet dreams. Each one can help inspire us to get our own.

I am not a musician, but a friend of mine is a good drummer. When I see him play, I find that I can tap out complex beats on a table or something more easily and with more coordination than I used to, without any practice -- just by seeing him do it. You can serve as our example for wet dreams!

Hoban
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(8/30/03 8:05 pm)
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I'm here again!

Everyone,

Wow, already Wet Dreams IV? That’s the beginning of our history again, guys! Dickenson, you have to be glad that this site is growing tremendously like our erections! I guess your penis is happy these days too!

Wet Dreams? Nah, I’m still waiting. I’m very glad that Mike, our latest wet dreamer, adds the details on that calendar. I’d like to congratulate you, Mike!! The truth is, you’re the man who’s getting wet dream here besides Mr. Ronald. Thanks for the answers on Dickenson’s questions. I think you’re approaching your 2nd wet dream, Mike! Good work, man!

Texanguy and Ronald, thanks for being there when I need the most support from someone. You guys are lovely!

Having completed 45 days of abstinence, yeah? I think that’s sort of shorter than the rest of us. Mike, I’m approaching the beginning of the 3rd month! I quit on the 1st July 2003. But nothing happened so far. Comments? So, my personal calendar is still as clean as the month of July. For your info, Mike (since you came in late), I’ll mark the day in which I masturbate with a marker on my calendar. The more I polished the bishop, the more markings on my calendar. But they’re clean for these 2 months! May I know whether you do such things, Mike? What about the others?

The best part for this ‘quest’ was actually the ‘quality’ and ‘frequency’ of each erection fueled by our body. Those were really ‘unbearable’ (like you said, Mike and Dickenson). Though I’m not a frequent Mr. Hardy, like Mike and Dickenson, but I do get them more often than the times when I’m masturbating. It seems that the penis is always a member eager to persuade some attention from us (said Socks). Ronald, I do get hard most of the time when reading and writing replies here, not to mention now…...

About the wet dreams……I think Mike recently made a strong correlation between having frequent erotic dreams and the real wet dream. Apparently, those waking arousal (good erections) does NOT inhibit wet dreams; they’re essential for the well being of our penises. Well, I got questions for you, Mike:

Q: How often did you masturbate last time?
Q: Will you in anyway go back to masturbation after you had wet dream? Why?
Q: Any specific or general advice for us in order to get one?

Question for everyone: Since I’m not masturbating these days, I got some clear fluid around the tip of my penis when I had a big erection; hence my foreskin is wet as well. That’s NOT semen. It’s clear and no smell. Do you guys get this? I’m afraid that this will eventually inhibit my wet dream(s), due to the constant ‘output’ of fluid by the body while awake.

Well, it’s nice knowing all you guys here. I’m very erect and upright now. Adieu!

Texanguy
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(8/31/03 12:04 am)
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Hoban

Hoban,
I'm glad you are still with us. It's good news about Mike getting a wet dream. I think we all see that continuing not to masturbate as the only way to continue our quests for our own wet dreams. And they WILL happen!

The fluid you are getting is called 'precum', and is normal when getting aroused. I don't think it will inhibit wet dreams. I still don't think that everyone who has wet dreams gets a lot of erections while awake, but it seems to cause no harm in the quest for wet dreams. The fluid is just part of the erections.

Keep posting when you get the chance. We want to hear of your wet dream soon!

Texanguy
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(8/31/03 12:41 am)
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Clarification

For those of you who hadn't read the old, deleted posts, you might be confused when today I said I had 'arousal to orgasm' last April, yet said I had an unwanted ejaculation last month.

They are different. One, the kind I last had in April, is from getting aroused, excited, and erect, and is basically going all the way to orgasm with no physical stimulation, and not wanting to -- desiring instead to save it for a wet dream.

The other is what I call a 'spontaneous ejaculation'. It happened last month, and is more like what Mike was describing in the steam room. It happens when unerect and not aroused, and it becomes a 'mini-orgasm' while staying mostly unerect. Semen is definitely ejaculated.

I'm sure that both keep wet dreams from happening, both because the semen is emptied, and because the brain/body is having other outlets to turn to instead of wet dreams.

So you guys who want wet dreams should avoid both, if you can. Let wet dreams be the only, best, and most rewarding outlet, and don't 'learn' these other ways.

brahms 28
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(8/31/03 2:58 am)
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Hey Hoban...

Welcome back Hoban.

Wow, Texanguy, I did not know that such espontaneous ejaculations exist. It was good that I left the room before it happened. I cannot imagine how embarrassing could be having an ejaculation in front of everybody.


To answer your question, I think my penis goes flaccid when I fall asleep. But, we do it at the same time. He stays awake, while I'm awake.

Hoban, I do not mark the calendar. But I quit masturbating on July 13th, and so far, I have not masturbated even once.

Answers to your three questions:
1. I used to masturbate irregularly. I could easily wait one week and then masturbate three days in a row, then wait two more days, and msturbate everyday for almost a week.... It all depends on the mood.

2. I think I would not go back to masturbation for a while. But I think I eventually will. I want to fully live this stage in my life, having this espectacular wet dreams. Then, for sure, I will have a girlfriend. Things will be different by then.

3. My best advice, is to keep the focus on wet dreams. Whenever you have an erection, and you feel the desire of ejaculating, just picture yourself having a very rewarding wet dream. Then, you'll brain will learn that it is the way you want it to be.

Hey people....! Last night I almost had a wet dream. Or I did. I don't know.

Perhaps the ejaculated semen was not too much, and It dried up in the linen. But I felt EVERYTHING.
In my dream, there was a woman and a guy (again).
The woman started touching my parts, I had an unbearable erection... The other guy was masturbating, and he ejaculated immediately... He apologized, and said, "I'm sorry. It's been a long time".

Then my ejaculation came. And it was awesome!. The whole body feeling was great! I thought (in the dream)...
"tomorrow, I will write to the guys in the forum, to tell them that I have to quit the group, because I had sex with a woman".

So... you guys are part of my life. Even in dreams. (Can I say that I love you guys....?)

Anyway, I will not count this wet dream, because I could not find the evidence.

Mike.

Hoban
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(8/31/03 7:52 am)
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To Mr Mike,

Hi, Mike. I’m quite free these days. I’ll come to this ‘wet dream making factory’ once I’m free and able to.

Thanks for the prompt reply. To be honest, I’d NEVER been to such forum before, let alone the authors for the forum are actively involved in postings and etc. I really, really hope that more guys will be joining this place to guide and motivate each other’s performance, besides congratulating the lucky guy (like you, Mike and Ronald!). I wonder I’ll actually have the chance to be congratulated by you guys in the future or not. What if my penis doesn’t want to have a wet dream? Do you think this is likely to occur?
I was just wondering…because this thing is very complicated (said Texanguy) and it’s a ‘surprise’; it can’t be forced or made! Uurrgghhh, what can I do?

Personally, I’d never experienced those ejaculations described by you and Texanguy. But it happens in certain guys. I read them before. In fact, some boy’s 1st ejaculation was through this way, NOT wet dreams! Just be more aware of those erections next time, if you wanna get a full tank! Haha……

I think I got that kind of dream several weeks ago. Did I tell you guys that? No? I think that’s called a ‘Dry Dream’. That was a dream I got when taking a nap during one sunny afternoon. I can’t remember the dream. All the feelings were there; but no cum. You thought you cummed, but the brief is dry and stainless, am I right? I think that helps the brain to remember the real thing, I don’t know.

Mike, are you abstaining from watching sexy things these days? Occasionally, I bumped onto some sexy looking girls in my college, and you know what happen down there. Why, why, why??? Certain scenes in movies also did the same effect to me too! (my boy is asleep now.....sssshhhh.....) ll

Q: Had you masturbated with someone last time?
Q: May I know how do you compare your ‘feelings’ between the orgasms you got from masturbation/ real sexual encounter/ wet dream. Please describe in detail for each category.
Thanks. I’m just curious to know more about you. (Yeah, I love you too, man!)

C ya later! (he's awake...and up......and up....naughty boy!!)

Texanguy
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(8/31/03 9:50 am)
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Mike and Hoban

Mike, even if your dream was not 'wet', it seems like you are becoming more and more adapted to the feelings of wet dreams. I'm sure you'll have another 'wet' wet dream soon.

As far as masturbating again in the future is concerned, if wet dreams stayed frequent and continued to feel better than masturbation, I think I would tend to increasingly lose interest in masturbation and stick with what I liked better.

But I guess it's always good to be flexible. Just kind of see what happens in the future. For myself, if I were to get involved in a romance as a regular wet dreamer who doesn't masturbate, I would be strongly tempted to experience the whole thing without ever masturbating -- at least by myself!

Hoban, I think this forum is quite unique. I wonder how many people are just reading it and not contributing. Perhaps more people would join or make a serious effort to have wet dreams if we get more success stories.

As far as you getting your own wet dreams, nobody knows enough about wet dreams to be sure if there are any absolute guarantees or not. But at the same time, all the posts I've seen seem to indicate that people who quit masturbating eventually do get them. And besides, for the vast majority of people including all of us here, there is virtually no other way to get them other than to quit masturbating.

But as you said, the topic of wet dreams seems to be quite complicated. Most people who quit masturbating and went on to have wet dreams seemed to have them as a 'side effect' of quitting masturbation. Those of us here who quit masturbating in order to have wet dreams may have to get closer to that mind set. But then Mike did it in 45 days!

My own opinion is that each of us is different, and each of us has to have our 'brains' figure out how to have wet dreams in its own way and time. The number one thing we can do is make masturbation no longer an outlet. I think Mike has it right in that visualizing the reward of wet dreams also helps. In time, I think conscious and unconscious feelings and attitudes will 'line up', and wet dreams will happen. Even if the first wet dream is purely random, eventually the brain will make the connections, and wet dreams will become more frequent.

Your 'dry dream' may be an indication that you are on your way to a wet one. Mike posted about having several erotic dreams before his actual wet dream.

Good luck!

brahms 28
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(8/31/03 11:31 am)
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Hey!

Hoban, my friend, you'll have a wet dream. I'm sure. Just do not hesitate. You are a man, I am a man, and we all in this chat are men. We have too many things in common... Wet dreams are made for guys, like you, like me, like Texan... So, we'll all eventually get them.
It's a gift, given to us!

Texanguy, I really like what you wrote. "each of us is different, and each of us has to have our 'brains' figure out how to have wet dreams in its own way and time (...) I think conscious and unconscious feelings and attitudes will 'line up', and wet dreams will happen."

I think that's very important.
I have to tell you about this really good book, "The steppen Wolf". The main character thinks he has two persons inside him. But he finds out that it's actually a million people living in his interior.
That reflects the complexity of our brain. But everybody will find the way to teach him what we want.

I'm not even sure that I will be able to get a second wet dream. I'll keep trying and fighting with you guys. You are my team!

Hoban, to answer your questions:
1. Yes, I have masturbated with someone before. Last time, however, it was just me and my hand.
2. I said in a previous post, that I, unfortunately, do not fully enjoy the real sex. I like it, very much, but I personally think that there are too many things implicit in the real sex, that makes it less attractive. Besides, I reckon that in our modern days, people are just too busy defending their sexual power, that we have lost the perspectives. Just take a look… magazines, TV, newspapers…
I think there are more pleasing things in this world, but it’s just that people don’t know them. Wet dreams, is definitely one.
In the other hand, one can be very creative with masturbation. Nobody will ever know what you have done. It makes it very appealing and satisfying.
On top of both, I place the wet dreams. They have this gratifying generalized feeling; they revolves the hormones, making you feel happy and placid the whole day, and even the next night.

Hey Guys, May I know what is your physical contexture is? How do you rank your height, body hair, sperm production, penis size, amount of hair, testicles size, etc, against the average? (You don’t have to answer with the real facts, if you don’t want to, just the comparisons). I think this information is useful for our investigation.


By for now… I’m going to bed.

Mike.

brahms 28
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(8/31/03 11:36 am)
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One more thing...

Etnia, skin and hair color are also important facts.

Hoban, yes, I've seen erotic stuff lately... The erections are just unavoidable. One time, I had an erection in front of everybody in the Uni showers.

Mike.

focus
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(9/1/03 11:08 am)
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sorry guys - meant to post this in IV, not II

Hello all,

I've been lurking here for a little while, and decided to post and join in on your wet dream attempts. Texanguy knows me from some of the other men's health forums. I am as fascinated about wet dreams as you all are, and have a lot in common in with many of your wet dream experiences and attempts. I've scoured the internet for wet dream research information over the years, and I'm shocked at the lack of any scientific research on the topic. This forum right here is the most informative and most extensive research (albeit informal) that I've found yet. I think its great that this exists and want to join you guys in the quest for wet dreams by quitting masturbation.

First, a little about myself and my wet dream experience:

I'm a 29 year old straight male, with a pretty strong sex drive, that up this point has exclusively been relieved through masturbation. That's right, I'm a virgin (not proud of that either). I've had several relationships with women, but they never led to sex for various reasons. I'm willing to lose my virginity to the right woman, when I meet her. I'm currently dating, so who knows where that will take me, but no sexual activity currently.

As for my wet dream experience: I've been fascinated with wet dreams ever since I first learned about them in health class in Jr. High School. I was about age 12 at the time I learned about wet dreams in that class - I remember the teacher showing this corny movie about puberty, and there was a part that showed this kid who was paranoid that he wet his pajamas and sheets, complaining to his mom about it, worried, and then the film went into talking about what a wet dream was and how normal they are, etc. When I saw this, I was like "really - that actually happens? Cool!". I couldn't wait for that to happen to me, because I was curious about what it was like. Plus, a sexual dream sounded like fun.

I started masturbating when I was about 12, several years before I could even ejaculate. I was a late bloomer, and couldn't ejaculate until 15. Since I masturbated daily at the time, my first ejaculations were through masturbation. Besides being a late bloomer, I had a pretty normal adolescent period, and like most horny teenagers, I masturbated to ejaculation at least once a day, sometimes several times a day. Needless to say, I never had an issue of built up semen that may lead to a wet dream, and I never had a wet dream until I was in college.

When I first started college, I attempted a few times to stop masturbating to build up semen in the hopes I would get a wet dream. I would make it to 3-4 weeks sometimes, then my sexual urges would flood me and I gave in. Still never got a wet dream.

Then, on a cold winter day in January when I was 19, I was sleeping soundly in my dorm room. I had this incredibly vivid and fun sexual dream about a girl I liked at the time giving me oral sex. It felt so real that it was incredible - the sensations were amazing. The type of dream that you're not sure if your dreaming or not, because its so realistic. In my dream, I could feel like I was about to cum, and then bam, I started cumming, just like in real life. Then I suddenly woke up in the middle of this, and my penis was spurting semen all over my belly. I had no idea what was going on for the first few seconds. When I looked down into my underpants and saw my penis still ejaculating and the pools of cum on my belly, I suddenly put it all together and realized I just had my first wet dream! I was SO happy. So my initial confusion and fear as to what was going on quickly changed to pure joy once I realized I just had a wet dream. It felt really good. I remember the ejaculation was very different feeling than my normal awake ejaculations. This was all automatic for one - I had no control over anything, which I really liked. It felt wonderful during each spurt, but it wasn't quite an orgasm. I remember walking around that day feeling like a real man that I had a wet dream. This was 10 years ago, and I remember my wet dream as if it were yesterday.

Now here's the weird part. When I got that wet dream, I wasn't 'trying' for it. My last ejaculation was only 5 days before the wet dream (I was masturbating about once or twice a week at the time). I didn't do anything sexual that night before going to sleep. I was busy with homework and stuff, and when I finished, I just went to sleep like normal. I am still perplexed as to why I had that wet dream after only 5 days of not ejaculating, yet I had previously gone up to 3-4 weeks without ejaculating, and no wet dream. Even more curious is after that wet dream, I tried over the years to have another one by quitting masturbation several times, and no wet dream. I made it several times to 1 month of no ejaculation, and one time, I hit my personal record of 2 months of masturbation and no ejaculation, and yet still, no wet dream.

I began to give up on the theory that if you quit masturbation and don't have any ejaculations that you will eventually get a wet dream. Until I saw this forum, and there's at least 2 or 3 success stories right here. This really inspired me to try it again now. Especially Mike's experience, since I'm pretty similar to him in age, past wet dream experience, equipment, etc.

So, here I am pledging my abstinence to you guys in the hopes for another wet dream. I don't know how I'm going to do it, but I'm going to give it my best to quit masturbating. I know from past experience that it is extremely difficult to do. I've found my choke points (the periods of time when I really get horny and the urge to masturbate becomes almost unbearable) is at about 6-7 days of not ejaculating, and again at around 3-4 weeks. Then it seems to stabilize and get easier a little bit after that.

I face many obstacles to achieving my goal:

1) as I mentioned I have a pretty strong sex drive, and I'm almost always horny. I usually don't get spontaneous erections during the day, but I get many at night, and I almost always wake up with morning wood.

2) I have my own apartment and live alone - I think this makes it more difficult, because I always have the privacy and ability to masturbate whenever I want.

3) I'm not busy with work at all, and I work from my home. I think keeping busy and the mind occupied with other things is the key to not thinking about mastubating. That's how I did my 2 month abstinence period - I was extremely busy at the time. I've got many hobbies and interests, so I'm never bored, but my mind always puts sexual thoughts and masturbation at the top of the 'things to do list'.

4) I'm a very talented auto fellatioist. That's right, I can suck myself. Easily. Its another temptation that I need to resist, and a difficult one to resist at that.

Here's how I plan to tackle my masturbation urges:

1) I will not touch my penis under any circumstances except to urinate. Everytime I broke my abstinence streak in the past, it was 'by accident' where I was horny and just playing with my penis just a little bit. But it would feel so good and I couldn't stop myself. I sometimes thought I would just stop before the point of no return, but I found that point came on a lot faster the longer I went without ejaculating, and I couldn't stop it. In some cases I would ejaculate without orgasm, and it would spurt out from just being highly aroused and not even touching my penis - similar to what happens with a wet dream. I figure if I don't touch my penis at all, this won't happen.

2) I plan to keep a diary of my progress, and what I'm feeling/experiencing. I've never had a diary before, but I really feel it will help me this time. When I get strong urges to masturbate, I plan to pick up my diary and write down in detail what I am feeling, instead of taking my hand to my penis and playing with it like I normally would. Its like a habit I need to break, similar to what smokers go through to quit smoking.

3) I hope to lean on you guys quite a bit for support and confidence. Since we're all in the same boat together, I think this will really help me stay on track. I've never had this kind of support before. Plus, the success stories will be inspirational (they already are).

I've got more to say, but I've been too windy as it is. Sorry for the long post guys.

So, my last ejaculation was on Saturday, 8/30 (ejaculated twice that day). So the count begins - got 2 days of abstinence under my belt so far... One day at a time...

Texanguy
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(9/1/03 12:11 pm)
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Mike

Yes, I think the brain is quite complicated. It is also quite flexible, and I think that there may be thoughts, visualizations, etc, that would help us in our quest here to have wet dreams. I just haven't spent much time trying it.

I'm sure you will be able to get another wet dream soon. Not only do you keep having erotic dreams, it seems that people who quit masturbating go on to have wet dreams regularly. I'm not sure how long of a 'transition period' there is after the first wet dream, but I think you are ready for more. Eventually, you will probably start having them at your own natural rate, whatever that is. I'd be very surprised if you had to wait another 45 days.

Exercise, diet, being in good physical condition, and having a good mental attitude probably all contribute to how often a person has wet dreams. Since some people have several wet dreams a week, I think once a 'brain' gets into the right mode, wet dreams essentially take the place of masturbation. It just feels better!

Your description of wet dreams implies that you see them a major experience in life, even though you've had only two in your life (so far?). Other people who have them seem to agree.

I think it's safe to say that people who masturbate so much that they never experience wet dreams are missing out on a significant, natural experience. That is at least one negative side effect of being 'hooked' on masturbation.

I am basically a white Caucasian American with almost black hair and light brown eyes. My body hair is pretty typical, as is other aspects of my body. Even though I am older, I still work out and am in pretty good physical shape. But my body fat level is not quite low enough to have prominent abs -- although I'd like it to be. I'm also losing some hair on my head. I am 5 feet 8 inches tall (1.72 meters). My ancestry is mixed, with some German, Italian, and some French, Polish, and some others. But my 'cultural heritage' is strictly American. My parents were born and raised in the USA, and spoke only English from childhood. I studied Spanish in high school, but don't consider myself fluent in it.

Texanguy
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(9/1/03 1:28 pm)
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Welcome, Focus

I remember you from other forums. I imagine you have already read all the recent 'wet dream' related threads at this site. If not, it will help you get to know us all better. Our results are mixed so far, and each of us are individuals.

It is interesting that you have also had what I call 'ejaculations from arousal' with no physical stimulation. I'm sure they inhibit wet dreams.

This forum may truly be a unique contribution to the study of wet dreams. It combines a discussion group, informal research and support group, and a very serious attempt at having them.

I tend to be the 'analytical' and 'concept' guy who tries to discern patterns and come up with theories. But I could easily miss something. So please read through all the previous posts and feel free to agree, disagree, and offer your own ideas.

But at this point, these 'fundamentals' seem clear:
1.) If you want wet dreams and aren't having any, you have to stop masturbating long enough to get them.
2.) That can be quite a long time, which clearly means something else is going on besides 'semen buildup'.
3.) It seems almost inevitable that if you stop masturbating long enough, that you will eventually have wet dreams.
4.) There is a lot more to be learned about it.

One wet dream I had years ago was after 9 days of not masturbating, and was completely unexpected. There is indeed a 'randomness' to having wet dreams. But it seems to disappear with age and frequent masturbation.

But at the same time, some people HAVE made the 'transition' from one or two random wet dreams in a lifetime to regular and frequent ones. There is only one way evident anywhere on the web: they quit masturbating long enough. Even people who never had one before in their lives started getting them regularly, long enough after they quit masturbating.

You can only get so much from postings by people about their own wet dreams or lack of them, but I tend to think that the more frequently and longer a person has masturbated without wet dreams, the harder it is to start getting them. But at the same time, I never saw a post from a person who quit masturbating, put it behind them, and then said they never had a wet dream after that. On the contrary, many people seem surprised when they started getting them.

We here are somewhat different, in that we are consciously trying to get wet dreams, and it may actually make it take us longer. Perhaps that's part of the whole 'brain' thing!

Welcome, and good luck in your quest!

focus
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(9/1/03 1:52 pm)
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Thanks, Texanguy

>>It is interesting that you have also had what I call 'ejaculations from arousal' with no physical stimulation. I'm sure they inhibit wet dreams.
<<

Well, there was physical stimulation just before the ejaculation, but not during it. I kept doing the physical stimulation, getting more aroused, then stopped before I thought I reached the point of no return. Then, a few seconds later, it just started ejaculating without any stimulation, and I couldn't stop it.

I think this is different from the spontaneous ejaculations that you guys have been getting, where you're just sitting around, get aroused suddenly, but not necessarily hard, and then just squirt semen uncontrollably. Because you had no physical stimulation at all, right?

I think spontaneous ejaculations are amazing too, and would like to get those as well as wet dreams (although a wet dream is preferrable).

I've been reading through all the old posts, and trying to put a small database together to track progress and identify trends. It seems spontaneous ejaculations are quite common among this group. I count 3 who get them or have had them, and 1 who almost had one.

Texanguy
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(9/1/03 4:11 pm)
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Focus

That's good that you are doing some research. You may find some unexpected correlations.

I think I've had the most waking orgasms with no physical stimulation in our group, and there are definitely two kinds. One is getting aroused and erect, 'going with' and trying to maximize the feelings of arousal, but with no physical stimulation. But then an orgasm can happen, even if I don't want it to. This can feel a lot like regular masturbation, but perhaps not as strong.

The other kind occurs while unerect and concentrating on other things. The feeling of ejaculation starts, and may go all the way to complete ejaculation, all without much of an erection. It feels like a little 'mini-orgasm'. As I said, I think both types inhibit my goal of wet dreams.

It may be nice to be able to arouse yourself to orgasm with no physical stimulation voluntarily (and I can), but it is too much like regular masturbation to be worth doing when you prefer to pursue wet dreams.

But I think this 'ability' reflects the flexibility of the brain. If you don't masturbate regularly, and frequently try to maximize the feelings of arousal with erection without physical stimulation, you might eventually have an orgasm this way. If you keep on doing it, it becomes easier and easier, even when you don't want to go 'all the way' to an orgasm.

What that implies is that the brain 'learns' new ways to have orgasms, and like any other learning, repetition reinforces it. If someone wanted to be able to have orgasms that way, they probably would never succeed if they kept engaging in 'regular' masturbation once or more each day. They'd have to stop the old way as part of learning the new way.

I think the same goes for wet dreams. If your brain already knows how to get orgasms through masturbation, or just waking arousal, it probably won't learn to do it a 'new' way as long as the old ways are available. Having orgasms from arousal and no physical stimulation while awake makes it even harder to stop having waking orgasm in pursuit of wet dreams.

There is one more analogy to wet dreams. Now that my brain 'knows how' to get erect and aroused all the way to orgasm with no physical stimulation, I can now do it only a few day after masturbating regularly. The same idea goes for some people who 'know how' to have wet dreams. Some of them can masturbate for a while, stop for a few days or a week or so, and have a wet dream. Others can't, because they don't know 'how to'.

So we here want to 'learn' how to have wet dreams. It makes sense that you have to stop all the 'old' ways before the brain learns a 'new' way. Then the new way gets easier and easier.

One last thought: It seems that wet dreams are more than just 'another' way. They seem to be built in. Many guys who reach puberty without hearing about or discovering masturbation on their own have wet dreams. It seems to be the 'default' way, yet years of masturbation can make the brain lose the 'connection'. But chances are it's still there in all of us!

brahms 28
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(9/1/03 4:53 pm)
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Welcome!

Focus.

Welcome to our group.
It's great that our profile matches in many aspects (by the way, I like the auto fellatioist thing) . Now, grouping by age, we have Hoban / Dickenson, Ronald /Texanguy, and you and me. Good!

It's been very difficult for us to quit masturbating. I'm lucky I've been kind of busy lately You’ll experience hundreds of erections, at any time, and you’ll make your underwear wet with precum. Probably you’ll also have to go though the embarrassment of having an erection in front of other people… But you have all our support. You can certainly do it!

Whenever you feel weak, please come to us before doing anything that will reset the count.
Focus is your nickname, and you should honor it.


Texanguy, thanks for telling us about your facts.
I really hope to have my second wet dream before 45 days... But I'm not sure, as I think my previuos dream emptied my sac completely....!

By the way, I’m Latin, with Spaniard ancestors. 1,75mts, tanned skin, black hair, and a lot of body hair in the bottom half. You know how much I measure up already. And I consider myself, as well as Focus, to be very sex driven. It seems that my sperm production is kind of average. (About 5ml per ejaculation). I’m pretty athletic, (although I do not have the six packs either), but I do exercise regularly.

Ok guys, that’s all for now. Going to bed.

Good luck Focus!

Mike.

Texanguy
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(9/1/03 7:32 pm)
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Mike

Every time I check there is another post here!

I'm sure you did not become so 'empty' that you'd have to wait another 45 days for a wet dream. Most of semen is not in your 'sac', it is in the prostate. It only takes a few days at most to completely 'refill'. I think frequent erections also help create more fluid. If you've been having a lot of erections, I'm sure you'd be completely 'full' after 3 or 4 days at most. After that, you are completely 'armed and ready'.

The simple idea that a wet dream occurs when you build up too much semen and don't 'empty it out' with an orgasm while awake, is far from the whole story. The body 'recycles' semen in other ways. There is a lot more 'brain' involvement in wet dreams.

Personally, while there may be some beneficial 'cleaning out' by a wet dream, I think that the main reason for them is that the brain wants orgasms, and wet dreams are one way it gets them -- a more natural and rewarding way than masturbation!

focus
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(9/1/03 9:25 pm)
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Re: semen

>> Most of semen is not in your 'sac', it is in the prostate. <<

Technically, the prostate isn't the largest producer of semen by volume. The seminal vesicles are the largest semen producers with about 50-55%, with the prostate second at about 40% by volume.

And yes, they do refill rather quickly. Within 24 hours of being drained completely of seminal fluid, there is enough semen for a normal sized ejaculation again. And I agree with Texanguy, that by 3-4 days, the seminal vesicles and prostate are mostly full.

After that, either the body stops producing semen, or it keeps reabsorbing excess semen. Otherwise we would all be having wet dreams or spontaneous ejaculations after only 3-4 days of not ejaculating. So wet dreams aren't caused by like a tank that over flows from not being emptied. At least not with the semen itself.

I have a theory that has more to do with the sperm production that may cause wet dreams. It takes 84 days for sperm produced by the testicles to mature and ready for ejaculation. That's almost 3 months. Once the sperm are mature, they can be stored in the body for approximately 20 days before they die. It seems some guys that get wet dreams have to wait for 3-4 months of no ejaculation before the wet dreams happen. This may coincide with the sperm production life cycle. In other words, in this time, you would have a complete backup of the sperm production , i.e. all sperm that were produced were not ejaculated and died. Also, at a certain point, any ejaculation will contain mostly old sperm that are near the end of their lives. Obviously not a fertile situation.

So my theory is that the mind is pre-programmed subconsciously to release semen in some way if it hasn't been through regular sex or masturbation, whether its a wet dream or a spontaneous ejaculation, in order to keep the sperm supply fresh and in prime condition. This would be needed to ensure the survival of the species, and thus is genetically programmed into our minds as a required, subconscious task.

I'm agreeing with Texanguy that there is mostly brain involvement with wet dreams, not a cup runneth over scenario. I'm just trying to explain or rationalize the brain involvement.

I know this is a little off the wall, but what do you guys think?

focus
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(9/1/03 9:58 pm)
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Re: Mike

Mike - thanks for the welcome, encouragement and support. I'll be taking you up on your support offer I'm sure sometime soon. So far so good, but its only been 2 days

Here's my answer to your earlier profile questions:

>>Hey Guys, May I know what is your physical contexture is? How do you rank your:

>> height<<

I'm 5'9", or the exact average male adult height.

>>, body hair, <<

I've got very hairy legs, moderately hairy arms, a bit of chest hair which is mostly around my nipples, a little on my upper chest, and a happy trail going down to my pubes, tons of pubic hair, and I can grow a full thick beard that needs to be shaven everyday. Fortunately, no hair on my back (yet).

>> sperm production, <<

Do mean sperm count? Or the volume of semen ejaculated? Sperm count I don't know, although I did have it tested before I had varicocele surgery about 4 years ago, and the results showed my sperm count and semen to be "normal". I wish I asked for an actual count at the time, but didn't think of it. Normal was all I needed to hear at the time, and I was happy about that.

As for volume of semen ejaculated, that depends on a lot of things of course, but on average about 1.5 teaspoons, or about 7ml. I'm a pretty heavy cummer, and I'll average approximately 12 spurts in an orgasm.

>> penis size, <<

Erect, I'm 7 inches by 5 inches girth. Flacid, I average 4 to 4.5 inches in length, and about 4 in girth. So, larger than average length, but not huge, and average girth.

>> testicles size, <<

My testicles measure 2 inches in length each, and 1 inch across. I think they're a little larger than average, but I haven't been able to get a good determination as to what average is. I've seen ranges on the web for average testicle size of 1.4 to 2.0 inches. So I'm not sure what the average is.

As for my background, I'm a blonde haired, blue eyed caucasian, about as WASP like as you can get, and I'm of German, English, and Irish descent, although my parents and most of my grandparents were born here in America.

My body build is fairly average. I have a medium size frame, weigh 150 lbs., very lean and toned with hardly any body fat. I'm pretty athletic, I work out regularly (mostly weight lifting, cycling, and swimming) and like to stay fit, but I'm not like super muscular or Mr. Fitness or anything like that. I don't have a 6-pack, but a 4-pack - LOL. Seriously, I have a 4-pack! I'm working on the other 2 pack still.

I think I may have symptoms of high testosterone levels but I'm not sure. I have very oily skin (which I hate), I have a mild form of acne which never went away since puberty (at 29 I still get pimples on my face and back), I have a super high metabolism (its nearly impossible for me to put on fat and weight no matter how much or what I eat), very low body fat, high energy level, and I'm getting a bald spot on the top of my head already at 29, which is freaking me out! Plus I already mentioned my facial hair and sex drive. I would like to get my testosterone levels checked just out of pure curiosity, but don't want to trouble my doctor for it just to satisfy my curiosity since I have no medical problems with it. I know they have these at home self tests for testosterone now that you mail the results in, but my stupid communist state I live in requires a doctor's consent for it.

Anyway, that's my situation. Pleasant dreams everyone - think WET!!!

Texanguy
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(9/2/03 10:15 am)
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Focus

Interesting theory, and it does seem to explain the 'anecdotal observation' from web searches that waiting 3-4 months for a wet dream may indeed be 'typical'.

But I do feel that it may be more complex than what you proposed. If you think of the 'lifetime' of one sperm from creation to death, the timing seems to be about right. But I think it makes sense to consider it an ongoing process, like this:

From what I understand, the same amount of sperm is produced each day. Imagine a long tube that holds 84 marbles. Imagine that a marble contains one day's worth of sperm production. So, once the 'factory' is up and running after puberty, each day one 'marble' of immature sperm goes into the tube, and each day one 'marble' of mature sperm comes out the other end.

We can model the 20 day holding period for mature sperm before they die the same way. So the output of tube #1 (the 84 marbles long tube) goes into tube #2, a '20 marbles long' tube. Each day, one marble of mature sperm enters the 20 day tube, and each day the oldest marble in the tube comes out, dies, and is reabsorbed.

So what happens during an ejaculation? Some random marbles in tube #2 are expelled, but tube #1 is not affected. It still produces one mature 'marble' of sperm every day, regardless.

So if you look at the 'sperm factory flow', there is no difference, once the 20 day tube is full. Everything looks the same after 20, 84, 104, and even 2,000 days.

But perhaps a 'modification' of the theory would help this situation. What if an ejaculation stimulates a greater amount of immature sperm production? We could model that as a 'heavier' marble. Once that heavier marble works its way through the 84 day tube and enters the 20 day tube, it may send some chemical 'signal' that an orgasm should happen before it dies, or perhaps when it dies there may be an 'excess of dead sperm signal' that tells the brain it needs to be 'cleaned out'.

That may be indeed a 'kick' that helps get wet dreams started. But once they start, for that reason or others, they tend to become more frequent. The 'more frequent' part may be the brain taking advantage of the new way it found to have orgasms, especially if no other way is available.

I certainly welcome theories. I also welcome an in depth critique of my theories. Theories and critiques of them can lead to new and more refined theories, and even at times complete theoretical breakthroughs. Who knows? We may figure out a lot more, and develop a sure fire method that allows anyone to have wet dreams easily.

From what I've seen on the web, there would be quite a demand for a guaranteed recipe on how to have several wet dreams a week, even if it included no longer masturbating.

brahms 28
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(9/2/03 1:09 pm)
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Feelings

Hey Folks.

Focus:
Thanks for sharing your physical characteristics with us. It would be very interesting to know how long it takes for you to experiment a wet dream. I think there is no "physical" reason why you cannot have it within 45 days like me, as we have very similar characteristics, except the fact that you are blond and white, and my hair is black and I'm kind of brown.

Interestingly, I also had a varicocele surgery 4 years ago. I had my semen tested, and I kept the results: 5ml of sperm with 150 million spermatozoids per ml. A little bit above average, although these things are really variable.

All:
I've noticed that I'm experiencing something like a cycle.
Some days ago, I almost had an involuntary ejaculation, which I felt when I had one month of abstinence. Now, I'm feeling the heaviness of my penis(which I felt quite a few days before my wet dream), and sometimes the erections I get are not fully filling my penis, again.
I still have a lot of erections... In fact I had two in the office today, and I had to run to the bathroom to fix the position of my penis trying to hide it.
Fortunately, I was wearing a T-shirt and I was able to put it straight up. Then the head of my penis was covered by the T-shirt.

I don't want to make any pressure to my brain to have a second wet dream, but what I see, and what I EVIDENTLY feel, is that the wet dream I had made me recede to the time I had three weeks abstinence.
The unbearable erections, then the attempts of involuntary ejaculations, followed by the heaviness of the penis, next the incomplete erections... after that I recall the three erotic dreams in a raw, and finally the wet dream.

Let's see how it goes, but this may indicate a hormonal cycle. I really feel I now have just about 38 days of abstinence... Who knows, we might have an equivalent cycle of the women’s menstruation.

Mike.