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JAN 6TH i just wanted to update everyone that i started back school and i'm going to bed early again so i cant chat as much. also im not ABing at all right now. back to mb every day. i might try another wd and i know i should of kept it goin so i would have another wd sooner, but i really needed a break from the stress of it all. but i will still post while im not abing here and there and try to chat with my friends here whenever i can.

ok well i have not mb since thursday! so this is DAY 4!!!! but i don't know if i will hold out. last time i was really sick and tonight i really feel the urge to mb, but since its been 4 days i thought i better start up my log just in case! i am also tryin to hook up with someone in school, but i dont know if this person likes me or not. but if we do hook up this person would be my first (sort of) and i would probably not try for a wd if im gettin down with an actual other person! but i don't know if that will ever happen, so who knows, maybe my 3rd wd is comin. jamie

Its awesome you're trying again. Why did you decide to abstain? Just curious.

Stay strong,

D

thanks for the question. honestly i was abing cuz i actually thought i might have a chance to actually fool around with someone so i skipped a few days and then i skipped a few more day just cuz i didnt have a chance to mb! i still wanna try but i've been mb again on a reg basis. i cant seem to get back in the frame of mind to set out and do it again. i should tell myself it takes me only 17 days to have one so thats only 2in a half weeks. so if i look at it like that it doesnt seem so bad. but while i was abing those 17 days i got so irritated and mad and had so many moments where i couldn't sleep and it took so much for me not to cum that i dont know if im ready to try again. also i now have 3 people who i think i have a chance to actually fool around with and thats got me all excited. fyi im a virgin and havent done anything with anyone since i hit puberty. i do have someone special that i mb on chat with, but i never did anything actually phyically with another person. so mixing all these things makes me not abing right now:
1. very hard to do - takes alot out of me. not yet ready to try again
2. 3 differnt people who are possibitlys of becoming sex partners - makes me fantasise about them and mb
3. i have someone who i mb on chat at least 2 times a week.

so that 4 days abing was sort of a special set of circumstances.

fyi - since all this happened to me (wet dream and beyond) i notice now when i get erections, im now getting precum where as before i didnt really. maybe only a drop a couple seconds before i shoot. but now its leaking pretty good long before im even close to cumming. i dont know if all this i did caused this to happen or could it be that im maturing more and maybe gettin more furtile??? i have no idea, but i like it. it makes mb more fun. jamie

i also wanted to let everyone know that i appriecate all the support i get tryin for a wd and i hope nobodys disgusted with my attitude right now. i do wanna have another wd and do think about it. i am serious but i think i need a small break before giving it a try again.

Please don't take the following as criticism, just as some ideas to think about.

MB is probably a good 'safety valve' for you right now. For one thing, I think most guys here would agree that having sex with up to 4 people (one on the internet and 3 in real life) at the age of 13 can create problems. I think you'd agree that doing well in school and going on to college to have a good career is more important, even if not quite as exciting.

The other thing is that if any of these 3 people are girls, you run the risk of pregnancy. I wouldn't say that it would happen right away, but starting a lifestyle of casual sex with multiple partners at the age of 13 makes it highly likely that there would be one or more unwanted pregnancies before you turn 18. Are you ready to deal with that? And it seems that such a sex centered lifestyle often leads to dropping out of school and other problems.

Many people also think that sex is best done inside a committed and exclusive relationship. What if you start having feelings for a person you are having sex with? How would you feel if they also had sex with one or more other people when they were in a relationship with you?

So maybe some fantasies are best kept as fantasies for now. You might also consider developing a deeper relationship with someone before having sex with them.

But I know this is just one viewpoint, and you are probably going to do what you want to do anyway.

A far as AB to get WDs goes, I think most sexually active guys also MB. So if you want to have WDs, I suggest that you just cut back on MB slowly. It shouldn't be 'torture', it should be fun and exciting to go longer and longer without MB. And maybe you can act out some of your fantasies in your WDs without the consequences of doing them in real life. I'd say that you could just cut back on MB to doing it with your internet buddy, since you are doing that anyway. But if that person is an adult it could lead to problems, and you should realize that they are probably just taking advantage of you.

So I hope this doesn't come across as all negative, but you've got your whole life ahead of you. Develop your excellent writing skills and make sure you get an education as a ticket to a good life. All good things will come. You have time.

Gee Whiz, Texanguy what planet are you from??? Jamie is a 13 year old guy who thinks of sex, and who MB's a lot. Well, I got some news for you.
THAT IS WHAT 13,14,15 YEAR OLD GUY'S LIKE JAMIE AND ME DO -- WE CONSTANTLY THINK OF SEX AND WE MB A LOT!!

I can only assume that you are some old guy who is in his late 90's or early 100's, and that you have forgotten what it was like to MB when you were 12 - 15 years old. (we can't see how old you are because you chose to hide these details from the rest of us in your profile. - I wonder why?)

I suppose one reason for your attitude to MB could be the result of coming from an ultra religious home, where you may have been seriously beaten up by your father every time he thought you were masturbating. Maybe he was the local preacher, and threatened the consequences of Sodom and Gomorrah during his fire and brimstone rants.

Jamie, we are both normal teenagers. Normal teenagers think of sex and MB a lot - that's what we do!. Don't let this old guy who probably hasn't had an erection in years and therefore has forgotten the pure joy of MB, lecture you the way he has. You are still young and are entitled to lead a normal teenager life while you are a teenager.

You have it backwards. It is Jamie who wasn't MBing because he wanted to have sex with potentially 3 different people
I said:

So I didn't say don't MB, unless he wants to try for more WDs.

I didn't say don't think of sex. I did say that he should think twice about trying to have actual sex with up to 3 people at his age, as well as MBing with some possibly older guy on the internet.

So what are YOUR recommendations for Jamie? Should he stop MB and have sex with 3 different people as soon as he can? Should he MB regularly with possibly some old pervert on the internet?

Pursuing casual sex with 3 different people instead of MBing is not quite the same as "constantly thinking of sex and MBing a lot", is it? You can see the difference, right?

Yes you do say don't MB if you want more WD's. Yet there are many reports of those who do have WD's and still MB as well. There are also many logs that tell us that they are on day 50+ or even longer and still they do not have WD's. I personally think you were saying do not MB full stop. The "if you want WD's was just a trick to get Jamie to join your ultra conservative ways and stop MB'ing.

Jamie said he was excited at the PROSPECT of him having sex with three individuals. He never said that he would ACTUALLY have sex with ALL THREE!! He has 3 opportunities to have sex, chances are, he will only get lucky with one, if he is even lucky enough to to get that one. At what I expect is your very advanced age, your own experience should (must) have told you that getting sex is not all that easy, unless you pay for it. It could be that your own suppressed sexual lifestyle prevented that type of experience from happening.

MY recommendations for Jamie are as follows: Be yourself, you are a young teenager; act like one and just enjoy yourself while you can. No he should NOT stop MB (even here you expect me to say he should not MB - you just don't give up.) And yes, he SHOULD have sex if the opportunity ever comes up. It's highly unlikely that he will get lucky with all three, but if he does, my recommendation is to choose only one, and form a relationship with him/her. Always remember to have safe sex and always use a good quality condom. And how arrogant of you to assume that Jamie's chat MB mate is an older perverted person. And yes, if he wishes to MB on the internet with even a perverted older person, that is his choice, and his choice alone!

Actively pursuing casual sex with 3 persons, IS exactly the same as thinking of sex and MB'ing a lot. The word "pursuing" in this instance means planning (thinking of how to) his approach to the three persons and trying to formulate a plan to form a relationship. I note that you again mention not MB'ing, Jamie actually wrote "3 differnt people who are possibitlys of becoming sex partners - makes me fantasise about them and mb". (a cut and paste from Jamie's log)

Regarding The pursuit of sex as opposed to actually having sex are vastly different. How do I know? Because I am a normal teenager who is constantly thinks of the pursuit of sex. And yes, I have done things very sexual in nature and close to, but actual sex with someone. Believe me I do know the difference. Obviously, you have either not had that sort of experience, or it was so long ago (and you were possibly severely punished for it) that you have completely forgotten about it.

I notice you STILL haven't updated your profile. I really wonder what you have to hide? hhmmmmm.......... strange??

You see what I said in print, yet you have trouble simply grasping what I said because you apparently have your own axes to grind.

You are engaging in a classic neophyte argument technique known as "straw man". You either deliberately or unknowingly mischaracterize and misunderstand my arguments, and then attack the
misunderstood version.

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/strawman.html
To quote from the article:
"Straw Man is one of the commonest of fallacies. It is endemic in public debates on politics, ethics, and religion. A straw man argument occurs in the context of a debate―formal or informal―when one side attacks a position―the "straw man"―not held by the other side, then acts as though the other side's position has been refuted."

Your replies are also filled with insults, called 'ad hominem' attacks, because they attack the person, not the argument. Together, they point to an intelligent but immature person with some personal ax to grind, who is not really familiar with how to win an argument using logic.

You may or may not agree with what I said, but you first have to recognize what I said instead of (apparently deliberately) misunderstanding me and imputing motives and intentions that are not there.
Let me be perfectly clear and restate my positions:
1. Jamie wasn't masturbating in an attempt to 'save it' for a sexual encounter or more. My position is that he might be better off masturbating regularly and focusing more on education and his future.
2. The statistics are on my side about not MBing maximizing the chances for a WD. If he truly wanted more WDs, he could cut back on MB slowly.

I would also add that there is a whole 'no fap' movement based not on religion or morality, but on the hormonal and other effects of MB, and on the commonly perceived positive effects of abstaining from MB. You don't have to agree with it to recognize that a lot of guys are finding 'no fap' to be beneficial and even fun, and that for some having intense, full blown, all out sex in WDs is far better than MB. So don't assume that the only reason a guy might want to cut back on MB is for some uptight, closed minded, super conservative religious reason.

Also, personal insults are not effective counter arguments. Or are you of the school of debate that believes that 'he who casts the most personal insults wins the argument'?

omg i started a war! thanks both of you for replying, i thnk you both have great points and i know you guys are passionate cuz you care and thanks for caring! im not thinkin of this nearly as much as you lol. but all this debate now really did get me thinkin more. i never thought about what would happen if all 3 people went for me or not. -- ok i might as well post this, 2 are guys and 1 is a girl so i don't evn know if im bi or if im just curious but thats the thing. 1 guy seems to really be interested, the girl only might be cuz what i heard around school but i dont think thats even close to a sex thing. the 3rd guy who is 15 well that is complicated. also i got a condom but nver put one on yet. i thought about practicing with this one but since its the only one i got, i dunno. so texanguy i would use a condom if i ever got that lucky lol. since i read all this that you guys wrote, ive been thinkin about this all 3 people thing and what i would do. i know i shouldnt if i had all 3 chances but it would be hard to turn anyone down. but if one of them became a relationship then i would only be with that person. texanguy i think im a little bit better at abing a bit more now and maybe i could try to do it less and still get a wd sometime. im open to try it. the funny thing about school work is i can really do good on homework when i have mb first. maybe that would get flipped around if i didn't mb so much, but right now mb stops my brain from thinkin sex sex sex lol. i think that mike and me might be more on the same page just cuz were near the same age but i dunno maybe we need to hear some kind of voice of reason lol. honestly sometimes i dont think the 3 people will ever go for me and sometimes i think i'll always be a virgin -- even a virgin to mutual mb and things like that. i thought this weekend somethin would happen for sure with one of them but nothin did. i did have a great time and did alot of things so im not bummed out, but there was plans that sorta could of lead to something happening but it didn't. so that puts me at day 3 lmfao!!!!!! now i gotta get ready for school, i feel dissapointed and don't really even feel like fantasising tonight. this was my reason for wanting a wd before. at least i got one, but even in the dream i didn't get to have the wild sex that i hoped for! i think since this blog is called my quest for a wd part 2 i should start a new blog and it can just go on 4ever and if im mbing thats fine and if im abing for a wd that will be good too. so im gonna start a new blog and call it something like my daily log. ok thats what i will call it! thanks for reading and thanks for caring. j

I'm glad you didn't get upset over the 'war', and that you thought about what we both said. Homework and schoolwork is important, so do what it takes to keep doing well and to be able to concentrate on them. At the same time, since you want WDs (and not because I'm some kind of conservative religious nut), you can try cutting back on MB if you want in hopes of having some good WDs while still maintaining a balance and doing well at school. But school and balance is where it's at, even if that means daily MB.

You also might find people with better compatibility and who are more interested in a deeper relationship if you develop the relationship first, and then let it lead to sex when you are both ready, rather than the other way around.

As far as I am concerned, I am not engaging in any sort of tactic or technique. I am simply speaking my mind. Yes, unlike you, I do admit to "having an axe to grind". Actually I have a few that need grinding. One of the more important ones is the one where I take great exception to old style conservative adults who still sincerely believe that "children should be seen, but not heard". That is just so nineteen hundreds in its concept. We have just entered 2015, and yet you still seem to cling onto this old fashioned idea.

You say that I am intelligent but immature. Of course i am still on the immature side of things. After all I am only fifteen - a fact which is clearly obtained from my profile. In no way an I ashamed to admit that I am only fifteen years old. Yet you seem to be ashamed to reveal your details - I just wonder why, is all.

You clearly are happy to hide behind your anonymity and attack (maybe even bully) me with your highfaluting arguments. I simply say to you "if the cap fits......... by all means wear it"

To put it simply, you are against MB. Just read the majority of your posts - even a half witted idiot would get the general idea that you are anti MB if he read your posts.

This will be the last thing that I will say on this matter. My last word to you Texanguy, is show us who you are. update your profile. Tell us how old you really are. Are you even a male?? Who knows?? That is this fifteen year old's challenge to you. Let's see if you are up to it.

It takes a rather twisted interpretation to take anything I say as "children should be seen, but not heard". That is truly a reflection of some problem you have with someone else.

And if you read my posts, you would see that I am not anti MB, just in favor of the effects of not MBing. Did you completely miss this from my last post?

"I would also add that there is a whole 'no fap' movement based not on religion or morality, but on the hormonal and other effects of MB, and on the commonly perceived positive effects of abstaining from MB. You don't have to agree with it to recognize that a lot of guys are finding 'no fap' to be beneficial and even fun, and that for some having intense, full blown, all out sex in WDs is far better than MB. So don't assume that the only reason a guy might want to cut back on MB is for some uptight, closed minded, super conservative religious reason."

It seems strange that you would come to a site where many guys find that it's more erotic and sexually expressive not to waste their sexuality in MB, and who prefer the controlled horniness and more exciting release of WDs as well other effects of AB that they see as pleasurable and positive, including increased testosterone, and then accuse them of being uptight, old fashioned religious freaks who believe that children should be seen and not heard.

Looks like you failed to take up Mike14's challenge, Texanguy.

It seems to me that there is something fishy going on here. Just exactly what are you ashamed of or hiding? Just go into the UCP and fill in your profile. It is that simple! It's certainly not rocket science that is needed to fill it in.

What can we say, kitkat?

Once again, the great big arrogant, know it all, holier than thou, I'm better than you, I'm cleverer than you, I am the adult; you are the child, he who is oh so clever with words, THE GREAT TEXANGUY, has shown his truly great attribute. And what is that great attribute?? It is the really big flaw in his character. That of his utter and complete weakness when it comes to showing who he truly is. Like all bullies, he can slap down this teenager with his fancy words and his psychological mumbo jumbo, but when it comes for him to step up yo the plate and show all who he really is, he fails so utterly and completely. It must really piss him off the come across a fifteen year old teenager who has managed to get the better of him.

Yessiree, this fifteen year old will be both seen AND heard!!!

I joined the forum years ago, before there was information gathered when you joined. But to please you, I have updated my information.

Your hostility, insults, and sarcasm, plus your efforts to categorize me as someone who is a religious fanatic bully who opposes MB on religious grounds and who thinks that children should be neither seen nor heard, I think fits someone who plays a big role in your life, but it's not me.

I can kind of understand how someone might interpret being for AB as being opposed to MB on some kind of religious grounds, at least until they do some reading here and at other 'no fap' sites to see that there are other more rational and pleasurable reasons to AB. But the "children should be seen and not heard" part would definitely come as a complete surprise to people who know me in real life.

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