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 Post subject: Handora's Box
PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:30 pm 
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I wanted to alternately title my journal "What Happens When You AB 6 Years and then Break It", but it didn't fit. So Pandora's Box will have to suffice.

If you want a hearty raunchy story, sorry. It's gonna be a crazy one perhaps, but you might find something useful in here. I challenge you to read it, even though I'm telling you up front it has nothing that will set you off. Consider yourself challenged.

I started MBing way before I had my first WD. I was 11. I was curious, it was fun, you know the story. Then I found out it was not kosher with my religion (I'm not Jewish but I think I may have just used a Jewish word) and I was immediately thrown into this personal crisis. As you guys know, it's hard to AB. Once you start MBing, it's something your body starts to crave. That's not a bad thing, but it was for my little 11 year old soul. Anyway, over the next 4 years I beat myself up (psychologically, although it might have been funny to pull an Ace Ventura in the bathroom) over MBing and FINALLY at the age of 15 kicked the habit. I mean KICKED. I kind of shut myself off sexually- no pics, no dicks, no chicks, for the next 6 years. Yep you heard me ladies and gentlemen, 6 years. Gnarly.

Those 6 years brought quite a few WD's. My body was desperately seeking some subconscious release, because it wasn't getting any in the daytime, that's for sure. I had altered not only my behavior, but also my manner of thinking. I hardly told dirty jokes, I wasn't aroused hardly at all, and weird enough, I was a pretty happy 16,17, 18 year-old. Carefree and sexfree. I'm no scientist but it would seem to me from my life that more WD's come from turning the sex button off. Which means I can't really recommend edging like some of you boys do or porning yourself to a WD. But that's just my experience.

Well that lasted a while. 6 years is unimaginably long to AB for some of you. That's ok. It might not be your goal. But if it is and you don't really like MBing, know that it is possible. I got some tips for you, pm me and we'll talk. I'm really a great life coach. That was a joke but you didn't get it.

At age 20, everything got flipped upside down. I was living with a roommate, totally platonic, and he asked me to give him a shoulder massage after work. Problem is, every time he would ask me to do that, I wood (oops) would get massively erect. I freaked out, life crisis yada yada--next roommate wants me to give him back massages but tells me to mount him for the back massage. He was Asian, i don't know if that's kind of common there, but for me it was so awkward and my sex drive went from being 6 years dormant to raging. I went through day long boners, I'm serious like off and on but constant all day, outside, in public, everything. I couldn't work well. At 21 it was still so bad I couldn't sleep at night. NOTE: I WAS STILL ABING THOUGH ALL OF THIS. I saw a urologist, thought I had a problem. He was like, "you just need to release."

I was terrified. Disgusted. Irked? I mean, here I was successfully ABing for 6 years and the guy told me to break it. Wasn't long before I caved in, broke my 6 year AB and changed my sn from 6years127 to Jake127 as indication of my failure. Well, I tried off and on to AB after that. I lasted in 1-3 month intervals for a while, but I couldn't get back to where I used to be with AB. The WD's have decreased. I get them less and less often. I've always been one to sleep through a WD and not wake myself up (must have to do with what sleep stage i'm in when I have them) but I did remember having more vivid dreams early on during the AB calm years (preceeding the Roaring 20's and then Great Depression of the 22-24's).

Well, that's my story. I have a lot of experience in the subject if you are interested. I know I had/have a wacked (no pun intended....no, really....awww ok can't blame a guy though) mind but maybe there was something in the story to help you. If not, hopefully you've had a nice bedtime story now go and have a nice WD.


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 Post subject: Re: Handora's Box
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:35 am 
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Great story! But one thing is for sure: if you were able to completely AB starting at age 15, you can for sure do it now. You have much greater control now and you know both sides of the AB/MB story. All you have to do is decide, just like you did at 15, to completely stop MB.


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 Post subject: Re: Handora's Box
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:07 am 
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Nice story, very respectable to ab for 6 years. Thanks for sharing with us.


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 Post subject: Re: Handora's Box
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Reset, day 1. And I MEAN it this time.

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 Post subject: Re: Handora's Box
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:33 pm 
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:lol:

What would AB be without a few resets to give us some determination. ;P GL bud!

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 Post subject: Re: Handora's Box
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Jake127 wrote:
The WD's have decreased. I get them less and less often. I've always been one to sleep through a WD and not wake myself up (must have to do with what sleep stage i'm in when I have them) but I did remember having more vivid dreams early on during the AB calm years (preceeding the Roaring 20's and then Great Depression of the 22-24's).
Does this mean that you remembered at least some of your WDs, or that you slept through the 'wet' ones and didn't remember the WD orgasms at all?

The ideal is some kind of middle ground. Feel, embrace, and enjoy the horniness, but get out of the MB habit and enjoy much more intense WDs as your outlet, ideally vividly remembering each one as if it was real. The main reason for doing that is not total repression, but rather to replace the lesser outlet of MB and its letdowns and other negative effects with the more natural, more intense, and more enjoyable outlet of WDs.

How do your experiences relate to this?


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 Post subject: Re: Handora's Box
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Nope never really had that middle ground...I guess maybe once ^ . I remember some of the dreams I've had. As I'm sure is not uncommon, I often find myself in "Gotta Go" situations where I just have to pee but there's no where to go. Then there's some liberating scene where I pee in a place I know I'm not supposed to go and then I wake up wet with...you guessed it, not pee. <--- if you thought pee, shame on you, I haven't done that in at least a year.

I do remember having dreams where I'm with guys. That's was one of the things that triggered my 'huummm...what happens if you never start liking girls?' stage that I am currently in. I have never had a WD about girls, for the record. I don't know if it's chicken or egg, but perhaps that's the reason I have really never been aroused by women. Thoughts? This is what I mean by Pandora's (Handora's pretty clever, eh?) box, because opening up the subconscious like this is kind of terrifying but exhilarating. Thanks for sharing, blokes.


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 Post subject: Re: Handora's Box
PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:27 pm 
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Hey Jake123,

Amazing story. It's interesting how us guys set of on different paths as we reach puberty. Clearly your path of long term AB is unusual.
No doubt I will provoke some reactions when I say that I don't think very long term AB is good for you. I hear all the arguments that the body takes care of itself and so on, but once in a while it needs to perform its function as nature intended and ejaculate. With most guys, this of course is not a problem :lol:
Nothing again AB and I am trying it myself, but everything in moderation is my motto. There is a need for balance in all things.
As for: what happens if I don't start liking girls? Answer: nothing much. Be comfortable with yourself and if you are drawn to guys, so be it. I sense that you are apprehensive about the possibility you might be gay and perhaps you were hoping that it's just a phase?
Again, thanks for the story and good luck with your AB.


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 Post subject: Re: Handora's Box
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Thanks, Boxer!

I guess you could say I am/was a bit apprehensive. Really I'm not apprehensive with my feelings that are pretty hard to deny. Rather, I'm worried about the external circumstantial problems that will likely result if I go down this road openly. But that's alright, I'm working on living the motto : Life's messy, embrace it!

AB day 1 starting again. Happy freakin' new year. 2014 MB free, why not.


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 Post subject: Re: Handora's Box
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Hey Jake123,

Understand your concerns. Go at your own speed with regards to what you want to be open about and what you want to keep to yourself. I guess you know who you want to be, you just need to find the right moments to introduce these things into your external circumstances.

Just remember, there is no rush. You set the agenda and don't allow anyone else to tell you when and how things should happen. Sexuality is not a black and white thing. We all sit somewhere on a continuum. Society generally likes to make things simple, hence gay or straight, even the concept of bi-sexual is a somewhat simplistic term, so don't feel the need to put a label on yourself too quickly. You are a sexual person, that's enough.

When each step comes, you will wake up in the morning and know what to do, as it will feel right. If you feel uncomfortable or under pressure, then that which bothers you is probably not right for you at that time.

There is something to be said for letting the tide take you on your journey, rather than trying to swim against it. Somehow I think you know what I mean.

I know when I was younger I felt I had to be in control of everything, men are raised to this role model. These days, I realise that the passage of time and some patience takes care of most of life's emotional challenges.

Take care.


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 Post subject: Re: Handora's Box
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Hey Jake 123,

You have no idea the amount of respect i have for you. Six years of AB is something to be proud off. Also, you determined that you would not mb at such an young age. That's impressive! Truly, there are so many stories in this forum, each one with a lesson to be learn, something different to see or just how us, as humans, and in this case, mens, we see things differently, act, do or think. Thank you so much for your post, it means a lot and also, lead us to think on the subject.

I can understand you! I'm one of the guys that feels his sexuality is not well defined. Maybe are the hormones, don't know! In a way, want to have a typical family since i'm attracted to girls, but also, some dudes mess with my feelings, get me exited and i could imagine myself loving and being their boyfriend. Sexuality is something confusing for sure. As boxer said, one of the waists mens in the forum (yes its true, and i highly take in consideration his wise words), sexuality is not black an white and no easy for a guy to determine which path will take.
In a way males are supposedly programmed to be straight, to copulate to women and have babies, at least at the genetic and instinct level. At that level makes no sense, two guys mating since will not generate offspring. But, what about feeling? Can't a guy love other guy in a romantic way? Why not?
Sometimes i say... would be so much easier if we were robots and with our sub-routines well defined and we only did what was supposed. Free will is great, but also opens a great deal of questions, paths, considerations etc.

So thanks Jake, you're great and thanks for your posts. It make, at least me, think again in this subject that i'm struggling still.

I'll continue to keep a close eye on your posts and wish you the best and that the WD come again in strength.

Yours truly,
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 Post subject: Re: Handora's Box
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Future, Boxer, I appreciate the replies. It means the world to me to know that there are other that share related, if not similar, experiences. I especially appreciate the advice to allow things to happen in their time. I admit that a few weeks ago, I decided I couldn't take it any longer, I threw everything out I had learned growing up, invited someone I barely knew over and went way further than I should have gone. Looking back, I think it was just for rebellion sake, which is odd to me considering that I'm 24 years old and should have already dealt with things like that.

I don't regret sharing love for someone so much as I do going too far with someone I haven't built and emotional connection with. To me, that is as bad as lying to someone. To give someone everything is to give them everything and I leave a little bit of my emotions with them each time. It would be better if I could build slowly into a relationship. Notice how all of this ties together? It's that push over the cliff that makes most of us men unable to abstain for a bit of time. When we get into that zone, there is not room for bridling your passions anymore. There is only sex. When you get in that world, for me, there is only one logical outcome.

So for those trying to AB for whatever reason, the question that I pose for us to think about is "Is it more beneficial to look for strategies to AB, or to look for ways to avoid getting in situations where the sex drive kicks in?" I see so many people that cross their fingers and hope for a WD but spend their time PM'ing me about sex. Well, that's ok with me, I'm open to talk about anything--but if you are REALLY trying to AB, do you think it's a good decision to put yourself in those circumstances?

Just own it, bro. If you want to talk with dudes about sex, don't lie and say you're going to AB, and then get all upset when you MB right after.

Just a thought. I like being open about this kind of stuff, and I don't mean to call anybody out. Just think if we're all honest with ourselves a bit more, we might find whatever results we are looking for. I love your advice guys; I treasure it, really. Thanks and obrigado.


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Hey Jake, how are you? And your AB?

Agree with what you said. I'm a 22 year old virgin and only want to have sex after marriage... but i'm feeling kinda confuse with my choice of love, as said before. Just post this on my log (also, there you can see the context... but somehow follows my post on your log):

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Btw boxer, have a question for you. You're much more experience than i am. And really would like to hear your opinion.
I said i was confused about my orientation, sexual, i mean... have any experience? Know someone in your life like me?

Would appreciate, much, once again your answer buddy...

The case is... i'm attracted to women... But also, some guys mess with me... and the bissexual thing, doesn't quite stick with me? How is possible to like both? I'm not criticising, it's just something i can't, by myself understand... And after, there's what God says about homosexuality... sometimes, i just don't know... what i feel and to whom i feel attracted... is hard not to know! Is an hormonal thing? Its just my brain that is bad rewired?

Things would be so much easier if they were black and white...

Hoping you can help... or anyone else. Thanks!


I believe you can help... You're experiencing similar thoughts! Have you overcome them? How, what do you think?
I know what i said to you... but it's so much easier to tell something to others... tell it to ourselves i so tuff... God... why nothing is black or white, this should be easier...
This thoughts have been with me since high school when i had contact with a guy from my class that become my friend, and i was attracted somehow to him... He messed with me... i just wanted to be close to him... How was/is in your case?
Currently i thought i was in love with a girl... but have finding me thinking on her brother more often than in her. Is that normal?
God... what do you say?

Thanks for hearing me... and obrigado! That was so sweet of you. Did you research it or do you know how to speak portuguese? How?

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Jake123, FutureWDmer,

Guys, you are struggling with the same emotions and doubts, although Jake has gone further down the road to realising his true sexuality.

I have posted some thoughts of FutureWDmer's log, which I think apply to both of you.

The most important message to the both of you is in fact contained in the last paragraphs. Don't define yourselves by your sexuality, whatever it may be. Define yourselves as men by other more important attributes. It hurts me to think of your internal anguish on this topic, although I understand why.

Focus on the wonderful life ahead of you and what you can do with it.


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Jake127 wrote:
I don't regret sharing love for someone so much as I do going too far with someone I haven't built and emotional connection with. To me, that is as bad as lying to someone. To give someone everything is to give them everything and I leave a little bit of my emotions with them each time. It would be better if I could build slowly into a relationship. Notice how all of this ties together? It's that push over the cliff that makes most of us men unable to abstain for a bit of time. When we get into that zone, there is not room for bridling your passions anymore. There is only sex. When you get in that world, for me, there is only one logical outcome.

So for those trying to AB for whatever reason, the question that I pose for us to think about is "Is it more beneficial to look for strategies to AB, or to look for ways to avoid getting in situations where the sex drive kicks in?" I see so many people that cross their fingers and hope for a WD but spend their time PM'ing me about sex. Well, that's ok with me, I'm open to talk about anything--but if you are REALLY trying to AB, do you think it's a good decision to put yourself in those circumstances?

Just own it, bro. If you want to talk with dudes about sex, don't lie and say you're going to AB, and then get all upset when you MB right after.

Just a thought. I like being open about this kind of stuff, and I don't mean to call anybody out. Just think if we're all honest with ourselves a bit more, we might find whatever results we are looking for. I love your advice guys; I treasure it, really. Thanks and obrigado.


I like this! All of it. :text-goodpost:

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Since you all are so interested I'm sure,

My date today:

Some girl messaged me on FB and said "hey let's go do something." I'm like ".........." But I don't want to be mean, right? What can I say, when no one knows that I'm...you know...some I'm like "suuuure I'd loooooove to" (makes barfing face). <----This guy hates dates.

So I end up going to see a movie. I'm purposely not looking at her because I feel so awkward so I'm like talking but looking off into the distance. The movie we see is that one with Keanu as a Samurai. Yup, pretty awful. Anyway it was pretty boring and all and I just took her home. Dodged another bullet. Made it boring enough that hopefully I won't get asked out again.

Things guys gotta do to keep people from knowing they are gay ^^^.

Sheesh.

Dates are just so uncomfortable. Really. There's always some sort of expectation be it a second date or some sort of romantic interest. And...though I have tried to force it, there's hardly ever romantic interest. So what do we do , boys. We lie and pretend we are boring so it doesn't happen again!!!

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Hey again,

That mus have been a hell of an horrible date. Hope you don't have do endure many more of those. :D

Growing up, defying who we are, understand that, embrace then it... be truly what we are after reflection... is the greatest challenge life poses to us and everyone needs to overcome it to be happy!

Hope anyone in this position, like me, Jake, can overcome it and be happy forever!

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Don't answer if it's too personal, but why are you so afraid of others knowing you are gay?


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In answer to said question ^^^ :

My reasoning for not being honest about my sexuality is pretty simple, but it goes deeper of course as we all know about things you worry about.

The simple part is this : I just moved back into the country, ended up back at my parents house while I look for work here, and I need a place to stay. I have free rent as long as I'm here, and food and utilities are, of course, covered. So if you've ever been in the situation, you'll get it, but if not--imagine with me for a moment that your choice is to be completely honest with the people around you , cause distress in your family, and in doing so potentially lose everything you need physically, or keep quite until I have a roof over my head.

Here's the emo part: I went to a private, strict, religious university and have been raised really religiously. That's great, I have no problem with that and see many benefits in my own life BUT (and it's a big butt) I have lived under this sort of system too long. I can no longer enjoy living in a home or institution in which whether or not I get to eat at night depends upon how good of a Christian I am. I don't want my personal life choices to dictate my housing situation, food, water, social life, all of that. I want my religion and family to have no more physical dominion over me.

It's totally ok for family to be in charge of me in a family kind of way. Or for religion to be in charge of me in a religious kind of way. That's what you sign up for in a family or religion. But I don't want to be controlled personally or physically, you know what I mean? I am under the law of the US, and the unwritten law of social decorum, and those things dictate if I have a job, if i'm free, etc. But I no longer want family and religion to be like that too.

Don't know if you guys will buy that answer, but it's how I feel.

Likewise and for that reason, the conversation with my family would be terrifying. I assume my brothers and sisters would no longer allow me to spend time with their children, too. Just my thoughts.

Maybe i'm worried for nothing, perhaps.


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Jake,

I don't want to sound patronising, but I really feel for you with your family situation. It's so sad to hear how you think they would react. I hope you are wrong, but it does happen sometimes that parents and siblings just cannot overcome their prejudice particularly in strong religious circles.

I fully understand the practical implications of your living circumstances. Whilst you are under your parents' roof, there is a need to play by their rules to some extent. Once you get on your feet, you can feel more at ease to be yourself and I wish you luck in achieving this soon.

There is no easy solution here and you have a dilemma. Live your life in a way that makes you happy, or live the lie to protect your family and to a degree yourself from the potential consequences of their homophobia. I stand by what I said before, in so far as time and shifting circumstances often take care of things. In this case however, at some point you will have to make a decision how your want to live and living for your family and not for yourself is a terrible sentence for any man to endure. You must live for yourself and your own happiness, therefore for me, the choice is clear.

That said however, the timing and manner of your coming out in due course may influence the outcome and I want to share some thoughts with you. Firstly, are you particularly close to any one of your siblings with whom you think you might be able to approach the subject? Alternatively, are you able to approach someone whom your parents respect and value to get support? If the family are inclined to reject you, if you already have the support of a sibling or third party that they can talk to and can help them through there emotions, you have a better chance of keeping them onside. Doubtless they love you very much and will just need someone they trust to hold their hands too.

Ultimately, you must be true to yourself. What you need to try to do is be smart and improve the odds of taking your family with you when the time comes to come clean. I know for a number of reasons you are a very smart guy and you are being strategic about this. Also consider the tactics you can use as well. You will work it out my friend.

In the meantime, if you must "date" girls to keep your cover, change your mind set. There are some wonderful pretty intelligent girls out there, with whom spending some time could be great fun. Step away from the premise that it's all a sham and set the sex issue aside and just enjoy some pleasant company and an afternoon or night out. You will get much more out of it.

In the meantime, find ways you can meet someone special to you. They will be an enormously important part of the next steps you will take.

Your friend Boxer.


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Totally understand your situation Jake, and the rationale behind your position. Like others have said, you'll have to come to terms with it when you're good and ready. Two thoughts occur to me:
1. Don't wait until you're 100 to do it. You have your whole life ahead of you, and it would be a shame to hide from the world and miss all the fun.
2. Be careful with dating the girls. Sure, it helps with the cover, but it could be a problem if one of them starts asking too many questions. It's also not fair to them: going out with them makes it look like you're available, when you're not.

Good luck with it, and just know that there are lots of people out there in the same boat who know exactly what you are going through.


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Boxer, 14, I'm taking your advice into a good place. I never thought at a post on this thread would have ended up helping me so much. Well, it's at least helped me get a clearer and more supported picture than I had before.

Boxer, I have my niece, who is only 2 years younger than me and who I'm pretty close with. I'm a lot younger than my siblings (6 of them) and the ones I'm close with are pretty hard core religious like my parents. Yeah, I think maybe I could talk with my niece about it. I'm not sure though, I still think I should wait until I get out of the house. Heaven forbid my parents find out and start stalking through my computer, coming on here and stuff. I will be an instant charity case, social pariah, etc. My friend's will be fine I think. I recently told my best friend. It went like this.

I sent him a pretty specific letter about all the things that led up to my decision. I told him that if he didn't want to be friends with me anymore, I would understand it completely, but that I felt like there was a lie between us as friends and I needed him to be aware.

The hardest thing---one of the hardest things I have ever done---was answer him truthfully when he asked me if I had liked him. I wanted to tell him no, and give a funny answer to avoid the pain that would come with being honest. I couldn't though, I respected him too much. I told him that I did like him, but that my respect for him outweighed that. I told him now he was really justified in never talking to me again, I would consider the same if I were in his shoes; it would just be painful and awkward.

But he didn't say anything of the sort. He just laughed and made a joke of it and assured me that we were still friends. That is one of the most generous and merciful things ever done to me, and I love my friends even more for placing our friendship in a higher level than my personal sex life.

I've watched some videos that talked about remembering how much the parents have to go through when a child comes out. I hadn't thought about that; I had been so selfish thinking about how they would treat me that I didn't realize how much they would be hurt by that. They want the best for me, and I know they believe that being gay is not the best thing for me. So we both believe whole-heartedly what we believe, and it comes from a good place. So how can I expect anything different from them?

Well, I never meant for this to happen here, but it's been great guys. Thanks for helping me out. Day 4 AB. I'm still in the game, guys.

Peace.


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Now you're getting someplace, Jake! So often you won't learn until later that you were making a much bigger deal of it than everyone else. I've heard countless stories where someone came out to their parents and friends, only to have them yawn as if it's old news.


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Jake,

Take the reaction of your friend as inspiration. He is a true friend. As Versa4fun says, your parents may already know buddy and their love for you, as was the case with your friend, will likely allow them to accept you.
As Versa said, don't wait until you are 100, but I still think some ground work will help the medicine go down when the time comes.
You know your situation better than any of us. We only want to help guide you, but you must make the call how and when to tell your family. If doing this whilst you live with them worries you, wait a little.
Your niece sounds like she could help you too.

Stay strong and don't forget to live whilst you are waiting. I know these big decisions and moments in life can cause everything else in your life to be overshadowed and stop.

Based on how honest you were with your friend, you are brave and a real man. Telling him you liked him was exceptionally brave, most would have taken the easy way out.

Your integrity and strength make you more of a man than most, regardless of your sexuality.

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Hey Jake, hope everything is ok!
I don't think i can add anything, boxer and versa have said everything that i would tell. I'm in a boat like yours, maybe with a bit more acceptance from family. Still, you need to do this:
- Who do you like?
- Independente of the result of the question, and it might take a while (in my case, still on that), do what is right for yourself and that we'll make you happy
- Also, being religious, pray to God and seek his light. I've been doing that. I'm waiting for answer, true, but they will come!
- Trust your feelings and be true to yourself
- Define what you want: I good marriage? A life of love? A life of unhappiness while pretending?

I'm sure your parents will love no matter what! So, be true to yourself and to others. It will be alright and you'll feel great!

Hope you the best bro!

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2 Most important pieces of advice for me from you guys today:

1) Keep living while you go through this (boxer)

2) Define what you want (futureWDmer)

Here is what I think I want:

I want to be at peace; I want to be able to go somewhere and just sit and think about life without my mind being occupied by sex.

I want to be hopeful; I no longer want to wake up every morning with the weight over me that I have an unsolveable issue that needs fixing.

I want what I already have: my family relationships, my friends and my religion.

I want to love. I want somebody who wants to be loved, who wants to be cared about, worried over, and taken care of--but someone who will do the same for me.

I want to find someone in a nice way. I don't want to find my significant other through swapping dick pix. I don't want to be raunchy. I want to be romantic.

I want to hold somebody, without worrying that they are thousands of miles away, on a computer, chatting with 5 other people at once.

I want to be free of the need to gratify my physical self. Instead, I want to make gratifying my physical self a rewarding emotional experience that helps me grow closer to someone I care about.

And most of all, I want to believe that everything I have written is possible if I work hard and have patience. I don't think these things are impossible for people, but they seem impossible for me. But I desperately want them to be true. Every time I see a nice couple together and think of how they are growing, enjoying each other's company, fighting--whatever. I want that, but I want it to be real.

And, secretly, a part of me wants none of the above to matter to me.

This is what I want.


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Im proud of you Jake! And very happy too!
I can only wait to see you very very happy. Hope that happens soon. :D
Wish you the best on this journey of AB. Enjoy the ride of AB. For me, has been a very pretty journey. Still to much new to this, but for sure, i'm enjoying what i've been learning during AB of myself and also the great conversations here at the forum, like with you, boxer and others. You're already are my friends, and friends are my family! Thanks for that! It means a lot to me, the world, the universe in fact!
I hope you continue posting! I'll be watching them. I do love the posts! Anything i might help, just PM me! I'll be waiting! :)

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Jake,

All you wish for is a very reasonable expectation and I hope you can realise that.

Every time you make another post, a little more of you is revealed and I realise how from your first postings, you have moved on to become much more open about your real situation.

It's clear that if you are swapping dick pix as you put it, you are doing so because you crave love and companionship, but don't have the option to live your life in the real world. The virtual world is the only outlet you have. Once you can be more open about the fact you are gay, you will be able to meet people in person in the real world, allowing you to be the romantic you want to be and fall in love.

The internet despite it's many virtues does provide a platform for a lot of creepy people, so please be careful my friend. Any of us guys when young usually have an enormous sexual appetite as has been much discussed in this forum and I don't think you should judge yourself too harshly for occasionally satisfying these needs.

Once you are out, your life is going to come together. You will meet that special person, but being realistic, you might have a few bumps along the way. Being straight and finding your soul mate and lover is not problem free either, so I don't think it's any different if you are Gay. There will always be experimentation, failure, trauma and regret in the game of love, whatever your sexuality, however the rewards for finding the right person are endless.

I just want to reassure you that many of your emotions and concerns occupy the thoughts of almost all young people your age and was no different for me when I was your age.

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Hey Jake

Follow the advices of boxer, he's and expert on the advice matter! Believe me, i know what i'm talking! :D He's a really nice person and a nice friend!
Only can tell you this more, since boxer has said everything already: be happy and live the life you see fit for you, don't let the opinion of others shape who you are. Be what you are (easier said than done, i know!!!). But, trust yourself, trust your feelings and be happy.

You are a great guy and deserve to be happy, with whoever is on your side!

Just remember who you are and be that guy! :) You deserve that!

Btw, keep posting, they are great to read! Just as you! :D

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Alright well yesterday we reset so we are BACK on Ab day 1....again. 2014 shaping up to be a great year already lol. Well, I lasted 5 days, I ought to pat myself on the back, I guess. No WD for about 2 months.

So. Today I broke up with...wow, it's funny to even put it that way...my boyfriend. Well, I've known him for 2 years but to be honest, it's been strictly online dating which (ok, laugh at me, I'm laughing) I know is kind of weird but we had talked a lot and we'll we had known each other a long time. But there really is something to be said for trying to start and continue something long distance.

I've realized not seeing someone, and not talking to someone doesn't really work for a relationship for me.

I had been sitting there not doing anything with my relationship life because I was tied to someone who never really talked with me, and when we did talk it was for a short time, and then he suddenly had to go. I was really naive to think it would last or anything good would come of it. I don't discourage online dating, but my advice from me to you: if it's gonna work you had BETTER have communication with that person more than you would face to face, to make up for the lack of physical presence.

Anyway, I feel like the biggest goofball for sharing this, and an even BIGGER goofball if it's possible for getting myself into a situation like that. I gotta have a little bit more logic in my life. Anyway, that and resetting my Ab counter sure makes a hell of a good Monday.

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