I will do it this time.

[determined11]

forgot to mention that this is my second longest AB ever.

longest is 311 days in mid 20 (those were the days)
second-longest is now 136 and moving.
third, last year in summer for 130 days
forth, late 20s for 80 days

[nsx]

Brilliant! You MB in your dreams! Lucky. I get the feeling that when one starts having more frequent sexual dreams than a WD is on the way sometime.

[determined11]

Brilliant! You MB in your dreams! Lucky. I get the feeling that when one starts having more frequent sexual dreams than a WD is on the way sometime.

I wish nsx. The thing is that I completely can NOT recall the part where I MB to ejaculation in my dream. I only remember everything around. Damn, if I remember that part it would be a WD already anyhow, I am not expecting any WD before early summer. If it comes I would be very pleasantly surprised, otherwise, I would try to persist as much as I can.

[determined11]

138 days no MB (Record is 311)
124 days no edging with my hands. (Record is 311)
107 days no touch no physical stimulation whatsoever!!! (Record is 311)


Nothing new. Have been really really looking over erotic material online in the last few days. I know this goes against AB and might hurt it but I needed it badly. I was really feeling very low recently and this helped me a bit to make sure my equipment is working. it is kind of a weird thing, if you don't talk for a day for whatever reason, you don't start singing out of the blue to prove to yourself that you still can speak so why can not I apply this to horiness???

anyhow, I am trying to restrain myself now and trying to face my problem rather than escaping from them or delaying the confrontation. I have to find another way to clear my mode other than getting sexually aroused until I find a relationshop (that is another problem in its own).

I wouldn't lie though, I am still feeling like crap even after all that horiness. it is just like a sedative thing, lasts as long as it is active and afterward I am back to my bad mood.

bough an over the coutner medication for mood balancing and using it for two days, seems to help a bit. they say it will work after 7-10 days of regular use. It did work with me before but I get used to it which is nto a good thing.


will see.

life goes one ....

[determined11]

Mood swing is just killing me. Sometimes I am OK, next hour I am sad, depressed, unmotivated and nothing makes sense in my life. I am sure that this mood swing has nothing to do with AB, I always feel better when I AB and I have been AB for so long without this problem. I am not sure what is wrong with me.

I am doing very weird and strange things these days. Thinking about weird issues, trying to fix fictitious things in me that never bothered me before nor do I think it is a problem to start with. Thinking about doing weird things that never crossed my mind before (nothing harmful though). I guess I am trying to divert my attention from a big problem that I can not solve in my life or maybe afraid of confronting it so I am creating pseudo-problems to escape from the big problem that I know (or may be tricked to think that) I can not solve.

sorry for the out of context rant. I know that most of this post won't make sense but that non-sense is a faithful depiction of my internal self at the moment.

"life" still goes on.

[nsx]

I've got a couple of massive problems in my life too determined. The best solution for me is to just focus on my current task for the day, and realise that is the best way to deal with the massive problems. Some of these massive problems I cannot confront, because they are beyond my control. Just try and see what tasks you have to do for the day, and do them.

[determined11]

I've got a couple of massive problems in my life too determined. The best solution for me is to just focus on my current task for the day, and realise that is the best way to deal with the massive problems. Some of these massive problems I cannot confront, because they are beyond my control. Just try and see what tasks you have to do for the day, and do them.

I am trying nsx, trying very hard to fight back. as you said, some problems we face are beyond our contorl, and not noticeable to those around us. They don't understand what we are going through. So on the large for anyone around me my life is perfect, but I am the who ONLY know what I am going through, and that is beneath the perfect facade is a depressed, feeling very down person, who is trying to fight back just to be able to function like anyone around him. It is tough because the people around you have expectations and when you don't meet those expectations without any explanations, they would be pissed off and won't show any compassion.


last few days were no different. Mood swing is killing me, I am have no motivations to do anything. Had high hopes for this long weekend to go some tasks, but had no spirit, trying to push myself to work so as not to fail those who put their trust on me. I am really trying hard, harder than hard even.I really have no explanation to this depression phase I am going through. My life in the outside is perfect, everything is just fine and I am AB successfully. I really don't know. Sorry if I am repeating myself. Coming here and writing gives me a bit of an outlet and soothes me a bit.


As I always say, life goes on and the fight for survival goes on as well.

[determined11]

came across this excellent page of male anatomy under our forum!! and thought it is worth of sharing:

http://www.wetdreamforum.com/wd/male_anatomy.htm

it has a very ncie explanation why some people got WD fast and why others dont. It also explains SE and how the body handle extra semens and sperms while one is AB. pretty good stuff.

check it out folks.

[nsx]

I'm with you determined. People around me seem to think I have a lot to be thankful for, but they cannot see things the way I see things. It seems most people are blind to the obvious and disturbing, or more likely just don't want to think about it, so they block it out.

Keep on battling on. You will come out the otherside a better person.

[determined11]

I'm with you determined. People around me seem to think I have a lot to be thankful for, but they cannot see things the way I see things. It seems most people are blind to the obvious and disturbing, or more likely just don't want to think about it, so they block it out.

Keep on battling on. You will come out the otherside a better person.

Thanks nsx, please do the same as well and don't leave us. I hope Mario won't leave us as well. Man it is so sad that we are about to lose you and Mario in the same week. Guys don't do that, stay strong and keep going.

[determined11]

150 days no MB (Record is 311)
136 days no edging with my hands. (Record is 311)
119 days no touch no physical stimulation whatsoever!!! (Record is 311)


was really tempted in the last few days to even edge but preserved until the urge went away.

HAve been researching the web for some side effect/benefits of Celibacy but haven't find any thing authentic yet. Just folk knowledge. I know a lot of culturals in which prematial sex is not an option so I know for sure that celibacy is ok and it won't kill you (Think Mormons in USA?). But what I don't know is celibacy's effect after a long time of MB. some said it reduces dopamine level (which I might feel), others say it decreases testerone level (not sure), others say it makes your baby's flaccid size bigger (which I SEE everyday LOL) , other said it makes it harder to clean your pipe while urinating (I feel this sometime but not always and I feel that the urniation is not as strong but again this is on and off and I don't remember if it used to be like that before or not). Anyhow, all those are just fold knowledge, and it is hard to get data points form people living is USA since casual sex here is very common and nearly no one goes for a long time without sex so the ened to MB is not that sever and I guess few indulge in MB as some members of this list do.

What I didn't find but experience is the following: 1) I don't have to sleep all day, I used to feel damn tired when I MB everyday even more than once. 2) I can feel refreshed even if I sleep for a few hours at night. 3) I have my mind when I need it. Previously I had headache and can not conentrate on any given task from the effect of MB. 4) I feel more healthy and I can see it on my body, face, skin, drive to workout, etc and of course 4) large and I mean it LARGE flaccid size, it is unbelievable LOL

And as I said above, from the side effect that folds mentioned I experience the following 1) some lack of motivation sometime, but I can not attibute this to AB alone as some other factors in life contribute to that. 2) lack of libido sometime (again I have been on medicaitons for other things in the past period so I also not sure, before when I AB, I had strong libido) 3) erection is not as hard or stay longer as before, probably, when I see somethng truly exciting, I can feel my baby, but I don't have it up all day for any simple things as I used to have (I think this is nto bad, again as I commented before, it is all in our expectations, so in essense I don't have a problem here) and 4) I feel some congestion when I am urinating like it hurts or something.

I think I will clear these doubts and check with my doctor about these things. I will be upfront and mention all facts and see what does he recommend.



I think the best course is to MB moderately or try to AB but also try to avoid any sexual thought or things that cause you to get excited. I read an article about that before that it is bad for your prostate to excite yourself and then deny yourself a release. so all the above side effects of celibacy are not from celibacy itself but rather from not controlling our thoughts and desires. AB from everything and we will get the good things with no side effects.


as always, life goes on and the search for health and happiness also goes on.

[determined11]

I think the best course is to MB moderately or try to AB but also try to avoid any sexual thought or things that cause you to get excited. I read an article about that before that it is bad for your prostate to excite yourself and then deny yourself a release. so all the above side effects of celibacy are not from celibacy itself but rather from not controlling our thoughts and desires. AB from everything and we will get the good things with no side effects.
.

Here is the article: http://www.dcnutrition.com/Problems/Det ... Number=226

and here is the relevant part:

2. Avoid intense sexual excitement without a natural conclusion of ejaculation. Continued excitement without ejaculation causes engorgement of the gland and if this continues it can lead to structural and functional damage. Develop regularity in sexual habits if possible.

so we should also AB from born, creeping on girls, etc etc and hours or edging. without these things we get the benefit of AB. I did that in my 311 AB period and it felt good, damn good but I really need to spend some time building my spirituality as I did before and rewire my brain to stop thinking about SEX all the time.

[determined11]

I think the best course is to MB moderately or try to AB but also try to avoid any sexual thought or things that cause you to get excited. I read an article about that before that it is bad for your prostate to excite yourself and then deny yourself a release. so all the above side effects of celibacy are not from celibacy itself but rather from not controlling our thoughts and desires. AB from everything and we will get the good things with no side effects.
.

Here is the article: http://www.dcnutrition.com/Problems/Det ... Number=226

and here is the relevant part:

2. Avoid intense sexual excitement without a natural conclusion of ejaculation. Continued excitement without ejaculation causes engorgement of the gland and if this continues it can lead to structural and functional damage. Develop regularity in sexual habits if possible.

so we should also AB from born, creeping on girls, etc etc and hours or edging. without these things we get the benefit of AB. I did that in my 311 AB period and it felt good, damn good but I really need to spend some time building my spirituality as I did before and rewire my brain to stop thinking about SEX all the time.

more references

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/rea ... ic-arousal

When not in a state of sexual excitement, a normal male's prostate will cook up about one-tenth to four-tenths of a teaspoon of prostatic fluid a day. This ordinarily drains into the urinary tract and gets excreted. During periods of sexual arousal, however, the prostate kicks into overdrive, churning out 4 to 10 times as much fluid as usual — far too much, some say, to pass into the urine quickly. If the man fails to have an orgasm, the stuff backs up in the prostate and causes congestion. In younger men this is often characterized by pain in the pelvic area and painful and swollen testicles. The usual treatment is continence, perhaps accompanied by ice-packs and/or an anti-inflammatory drug.

In severe cases the congestion can block the urinary tract, which passes through the prostate, meaning you can't relieve yourself and you fill up like a water balloon. Symptoms may include pain in the lower back or rectum (the prostate is located next to the rectal wall), burning sensation during urination, unusually frequent urge to urinate, and sometimes pain and minor bleeding after ejaculation.

[Texanguy]

There are millions of guys around the world who don't masturbate and see WDs as normal. Islam is really strict against MB, even among educated moderate Muslims. Taoism sees MB as an unhealthy waste of 'chi' energy, and Buddhism has similar beliefs. Many schools of Yoga also believe that MB is an unhealthy waste of energy. Yet WDs are not seen the same way.

There is a study in this topic (third post down) that shows that abstaining from MB increases testosterone.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3423&p=24705&hilit=pubmed#p24705

The 'old beliefs' are that MB causes a loss of energy, need for more sleep, lack of ability to concentrate, and a lack of natural and enjoyable WDs. We see evidence that this is all true at this site, plus abnormally small flaccid size.


It is also interesting that if you look at bodybuilding sites you see that some people do indeed abstain to gain more muscle. And they also really enjoy the side benefit of WDs. They seem to have more success at becoming full time WDers than we do here. There may be some connection between bodybuilding exercises and either getting WDs more easily or a lowered 'need' to MB -- or both. (Fapping = MB).

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea ... 1681fb5d9c
after i stopped fapping i been having them once-two times a week
they are so much better then fappin

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea ... =wet+dream
feels better then fapping.
i stopped fapping and just have them now because they feel so much better. usually 3-4 a week, and you usually wake up right after so you can clean it up before it dries up

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea ... 081&page=1
yeah i stopped fapping and i started getting them... regardless of whether or not you have a strong sex drive... you will get wet dreams if you do not fap
...
yeah it does feel good... the dreams are amazing...... also i've noticed that it happens when I go low carb/no carb.... dunno if its a direct correlation.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea ... f83ffb344d
Let me tell you this - a wet dream is probably the most pleasurable possible thing a man can experience, at least I believe so. Yes, better than masturbating, sex, oral, etc. You sleep dreaming about your sexual fantasies then *bam* you climax WITHOUT touching ANYTHING!
It's so amazing.

OMG This man deserves a medal. He tells the truth. I used to get Wet Dreams ALL THE TIME when I was in 7th- 9th grades. In my opinion they are 10X better than Masturbation. The only thing is I kinda got sick of them since I would wake up everyday with Jizz all over me. Now I would do just about anything for a wet dream.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea ... 133&page=1
Wet Dreams are the primary reason to do no fap months, imo.
Best feeling ever, better than real sex imo (srs)

[determined11]

There are millions of guys around the world who don't masturbate and see WDs as normal. Islam is really strict against MB, even among educated moderate Muslims. Taoism sees MB as an unhealthy waste of 'chi' energy, and Buddhism has similar beliefs. Many schools of Yoga also believe that MB is an unhealthy waste of energy. Yet WDs are not seen the same way.

Exactly as you said, AB brings a lot of benefits. What I was raising in my earlier post is that if there is anything comes as a side effect (like burned sensation while urinating, etc) it is not because of AB but because of edging, exciting prostate without a release, etc. so I was hope that I not only can AB from MB but also from any sexual stimulation whether physical or mental (both are bad).

There is a study in this topic (third post down) that shows that abstaining from MB increases testosterone.
http://www.wetdreamforum.com/viewtopic. ... med#p24705

The 'old beliefs' are that MB causes a loss of energy, need for more sleep, lack of ability to concentrate, and a lack of natural and enjoyable WDs. We see evidence that this is all true at this site, plus abnormally small flaccid size..

I am a walking proof of this old beliefs. It is right and very very true.

It is also interesting that if you look at bodybuilding sites you see that some people do indeed abstain to gain more muscle. And they also really enjoy the side benefit of WDs. They seem to have more success at becoming full time WDers than we do here. There may be some connection between bodybuilding exercises and either getting WDs more easily or a lowered 'need' to MB -- or both. (Fapping = MB).

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea ... 1681fb5d9c
after i stopped fapping i been having them once-two times a week
they are so much better then fappin

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea ... =wet+dream
feels better then fapping.
i stopped fapping and just have them now because they feel so much better. usually 3-4 a week, and you usually wake up right after so you can clean it up before it dries up

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea ... 081&page=1
yeah i stopped fapping and i started getting them... regardless of whether or not you have a strong sex drive... you will get wet dreams if you do not fap
...
yeah it does feel good... the dreams are amazing...... also i've noticed that it happens when I go low carb/no carb.... dunno if its a direct correlation.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea ... f83ffb344d
Let me tell you this - a wet dream is probably the most pleasurable possible thing a man can experience, at least I believe so. Yes, better than masturbating, sex, oral, etc. You sleep dreaming about your sexual fantasies then *bam* you climax WITHOUT touching ANYTHING!
It's so amazing.

OMG This man deserves a medal. He tells the truth. I used to get Wet Dreams ALL THE TIME when I was in 7th- 9th grades. In my opinion they are 10X better than Masturbation. The only thing is I kinda got sick of them since I would wake up everyday with Jizz all over me. Now I would do just about anything for a wet dream.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea ... 133&page=1
Wet Dreams are the primary reason to do no fap months, imo.
Best feeling ever, better than real sex imo (srs)

I have gone through these things as well and I experience more energy during my workout, more muscle gain, etc but I won't correlate anything with WD, I mean I worked out a lot and I still do, I take protien and eat very very well, and I do low-carb /high protein thing, yet I didn't get a WD for so long (it took me 9 months in my mid-20 to get my first wet dream, it is 5 months now with no WD and I went 3 months @ age 17 with no WD).

I also went the other way around, and AB while eating junk food and not excersizing and same pattern.

I also went the distance AB while edging daily for 4 months with no WD and during those 9 months before a WD I didn't edge. so no pattern actually.

I am not sure, but I guess may be good diet and good exercises would speed up WD for people who would get a WD anyhow no matter what. Not sure, I am very confused why it takes me that long to get a WD. May be it is in my genetics :-/ or may be my tanks are pouring their content on my urine so they are never full.

any thoughts?

[RonaldReagan]

I think it is the latter (prostatic fluid leaking out into the urine, so that the prostate never gets full beyond its capacity).

[determined11]

I think it is the latter (prostatic fluid leaking out into the urine, so that the prostate never gets full beyond its capacity).

Damn prostate, stop being loose and drop precious fluid so that I can get the damn WD. dump organ!!!

[determined11]

I was literally about to blew it today. First time I try to hump the bed, well i didn't but I was trying to trick myself and sleep on my stomach and all that stuff. What saved me from doing so?

Well, I always wish that I go back to my early 20 and listen to my father's advise and stop MB. yes he knew and yes he warned me.
I always wish that I go back to my mid 20s and prevent myself from breaking my AB record after 311 days and going back to MB after I expereinced the prettiness of the AB lide
I always wish that I go back to summer 2010 and continue my AB streak that was stopeed after 4 months during whcih I was happier and sharper

I wish I could have done any of the above, my life would have been much better...


so I told me self, Determined11, do you want to add another line to the above list one ear from now and say I wish i could go back and stop myself form breaking my 150 days AB record on 2012? SO I stopped and here i am incrementing my counter.

153 days no MB (Record is 311)
139 days no edging with my hands. (Record is 311)
122 days no touch no physical stimulation whatsoever!!! (Record is 311)

[determined11]

Glad to hear it Determined11. Sometimes all it takes is a stern word from ourselves.

Thanks The95Percent.

[determined11]

160 days no MB (Record is 311)
146 days no edging with my hands. (Record is 311)
129 days no touch no physical stimulation whatsoever!!! (Record is 311)

Here we go another update.

I have been feeling very horny in the last few days. I am not sure if this is good or bad. Earlier I was complaining that I am nto excited as I used to be and was sad because of that. now I am supper horny and want an outlet by any mean.

trying to distract myself as much as i can. we will see.

Dear WD, you are over due by now. I know you won't come any soon, but if you come, I will immensely grateful.

Anyhow, it is almost 5.5 months now. I am not expecting anything before summer. tough tough tough...

[nsx]

Thanks for the update. If you read Flying High's log, you will notice that he has gone 135 days without a WD. So there seems to be quite a lot of us here who have to wait a long, long time before the WD comes. Let's all have faith that it will come.

[determined11]

Thanks for the update. If you read Flying High's log, you will notice that he has gone 135 days without a WD. So there seems to be quite a lot of us here who have to wait a long, long time before the WD comes. Let's all have faith that it will come.

yeah I noticed, poor us

[determined11]

170 days no MB (Record is 311)
156 days no edging with my hands. (Record is 311)
139 days no touch no physical stimulation whatsoever!!! (Record is 311)

yet another update in the busy life of everyone....

feeling more horny these days. Morning woods are awesome. Tought time is a head. I guess we ABistaner have to alwasy complain. no horniess, no woods, we feel sad. Woods and horny feelings, we also feel bad

AB is good though and I will continue as much as it takes.

[Overload]

Good poem You're right, we always complain about everything. Only Skydreamer doesn't complaining about his situation and enjoying his t-buzz. I wish we could feel the same.

Stay strong!! You're doing great

[determined11]

Good poem You're right, we always complain about everything. Only Skydreamer doesn't complaining about his situation and enjoying his t-buzz. I wish we could feel the same.

Stay strong!! You're doing great

trying to keep strong and not complaining

just hard not to complain... feeling too horny.. really tired.. need a outlet as soon as possible.. t-buzz is good but I need an outlet.. feeling like crazy.


175 days no MB (Record is 311 -- with one WD after around 270 days)
161 days no edging with my hands. (Record is 311)
144 days no touch no physical stimulation whatsoever!!! (Record is 311)

just close to 6 months.... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ... and 5 months no stimulations physical whatsoever

dear WD fairy... come to me asap in my dreams.. k? thnx, bye

[determined11]

yet another day pass by and I am still AB.

don't feel like updating my counters. don't see the point now. everyday is like the other day for me now. Sometime we mix AB with our daily affairs and blame our problems , faailures, mishaps on AB while the truth is that is us who failed, erred or whatever else. Life has been going up and down in the last few days. If I was not AB, I would have MB when I felt it is going down, but I didn't and that give me the strength to turn the stuations I was into upside down and move on.


still I need to feel a change. find another source of pleasure other than MB. it has been 6+ months and I am still trying to figure this out but not sure how. Any help? still the idea of a release is haunting my mind and I need it badly. I know If I MB, I would indulge myself again in it so I am holding myself.

[nsx]

Good question. What activity can fill in the void of MB/Sex? It is a difficult one, because physical activity and mental work, just do not provide the same sense of instant reward. Perhaps you can ask yourself, what activities also gave you reward while you were MB? Watching TV, playing sport, playing computer games, can give a sense of instant pleasure. But we are all different people and find different things provide us with pleasure.

Well done on making it past half a year. You are one determined man. Please keep on continuing.

[determined11]

Good question. What activity can fill in the void of MB/Sex? It is a difficult one, because physical activity and mental work, just do not provide the same sense of instant reward. Perhaps you can ask yourself, what activities also gave you reward while you were MB? Watching TV, playing sport, playing computer games, can give a sense of instant pleasure. But we are all different people and find different things provide us with pleasure.

Well done on making it past half a year. You are one determined man. Please keep on continuing.

Thanks Nsx, I am trying my best. Hope you are doing well. long time no check from my side.



200 days no MB (Record is 311 -- with one WD after around 270 days)
186 days no edging with my hands. (Record is 311)
169 days no touch no physical stimulation whatsoever!!! (Record is 311)


should I say I am due for a WD after 70 days?

[mikeyj]

Congrarulations on having such perseverance and stamina. This says a lot about your character. It's too bad WDs aren't always earned otherwise you would be gooey all the time.

Good luck, friend!
Mikey

[dec2]

determined, I am sort of new to the party here, but wanted to congratulate you on your perseverance and commitment to this. We can all derive inspiration from your progress so far. I too will offer you encouragement to hang in there and stick with it. Hopefully your WD will come soon!

dec2