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As always Texanguy, thanks for your comments, insight and encouragement.

It takes a lot of self control. But 259 is almost 10 months, if you've gotten there before you've got all the self control you need!

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Slider, your progress is very inspiring to me. We're about the same age and both have never had a WD, so it'll be interesting to see if either of us get one. Keep up with your log, I'll definitely be following it!

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Thanks, guys for the encouragement.

Day 44

I continue to enjoy being horny and full. In fact, I was hoping to feel more of the "groin ache", because it's a good sort of hurt. Even when I feel super horny, I don't want to MB. Just going natural and knowing that at any given time I am holding the maximum amount of semen that my body can hold, is a turn-on in itself.

Day 51 (would have been day 313 if I hadn't felt the "need" to MB).

Every day I regret MB on June 29 and again on July 3. I didn't really need to do that! In fact I never need to MB. I've been alone in the house 2 days this week, and knew I could MB if I wanted to, but I didn't because I'm committed not to MB ever again. The level of sexual tension is strong but pleasant. Knowing that I'm not going to have a release makes it feel even better. I like feeling horny and full better than feeling nothing after masturbating.
Going natural is the best!

Day 59
MB this year - 2
Other ejaculations - 0

Several days ago I had symptoms of prostatitis. I've had it a number of times before, so I knew what it was before it progressed to a full infection. After 3 days of antibiotics, the symptoms are gone, without having to MB to clear semen out. So what are the symptoms of bacterial prostatitis? Malaise, pressure / pain in the perineal area, pus expressed from the penis, painful urination, difficulty urinating (i.e. having to strain) due to swelling of the prostate as a result of infection. In severe cases there can be fever up to 103, blood in the urine, or inability to pee. 30 to 50% of young men have had, or will have an episode of prostatitis at some time.

At this point I'm coasting along with a constant feeling of being horny and full, but it's not leading to any urges... just a pleasant sensation.

That sounds extremely uncomfortable, sorry to hear this happened to you again. Glad you could recover so quickly though, and still stay with your goals!

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hey slider.
I might acknowledge :" 30 to 50% of young men have had, or will have an episode of prostatitis at some time"
But as you had this numerous time : that sound as an health issue for you.
Is there a correlation with ABing, Did you have that investigated ?

Day 60

To answer the question, I have not noticed any correlation between frequency of ejaculation, or prolonged lack of ejaculation and prostatitis. I've had episodes when I was MBing every day and other episodes while not ejaculation for months. My longest time, about 250+ days was free of any episodes of prostatitis. The only thing I can remotely associate with developing symptoms of prostatitis is prolonged squatting, as in a full deep knee bend. But that could be coincidental...

This morning I was super horny, and really wanting a release... but nothing. I have learned to live with being very horny and just enjoying it is as a natural feeling.

hey Slider,
I hope things are better for you.
As i was reading your answer, i read my post too. And the last part of it was not clear i guess :
i understood there were no correlation between prostatitis and ABing
but when i said "Did you have that investigated ?" in fact i meant :
chronic prostatitis is not usual i've heard i know about non-bacterian chronic prostatitis but in this case antibiotics don't do much.
Did any doc. as a clue about why you had that several time ?

I guess that means that you may be somewhat prone to prostatitis. But if you get it, you can just treat it. No need to MB. Might one possibility be that extra arousal might create discomfort, and the 'extra fullness' it causes may perhaps lead to prostatitis?

I think long term AB leads to a longer viewpoint. What's the point of forcing a quick orgasm by MB when an integral and necessary part it is a long period of letdown, disappointment, and a total, negative turnoff afterwards? But if you manage to get a WD (still a possibility), the orgasm can be more intense, you will feel happy and rewarded, and will stay horny afterwards.

Day 65

I'm feeling great now, without any symptoms of prostatitis. The occasional episodes I have experienced were all bacterial. I don't have chronic prostatitis, but rather acute episodes about every 1 to 3 years. Except when I have an active infection, I have no symptoms.

This morning I had a good workout, and now feel hornier than usual. My attitude towards going natural is so different from when I first tried it. There is no end point. I don't MB any more... ever. No matter how horny or full I feel, I have no plans to "relieve" the feeling by MB. Sometimes I'm very horny and it feels good. Other times I wish I would have a WD or SE. But MB is not an option. This mind set eliminates the idea that by "abstaining" for a certain time that I've earned the right to MB. I don't feel like I'm abstaining... just living the way I should have been since I was 12 or 13 yrs old.

Day 68
Ejaculations since Oct 13, 2016 - 2

If I had not MBd on June 29 and July 3, today would be day 326. It wasn't worth it, and I wish I could undo it. Such is the nature of addiction, which includes an occasional slip, followed by regret.

So much for regrets. I am enjoying going natural now more than ever. The equilibrium of being full, horny, yet not wanting to MB is enjoyable, exciting and empowering. My energy level continues to be high, and I don't procrastinate like I did previously. I like the fact that I can go anywhere, for any length of time, sleep in the same room with others (with no privacy) and not have to worry about how or when I can take care of my dirty little secret. No need to close the door when showering. Even a clear shower curtain is OK... I have nothing to hide, and it feels great.

10 weeks today, and feelin' good!

Day 74
Yesterday I did something I had said I would not do, and advised others not to do. During my morning shower, I was all soaped up and began a little nipple play. It felt good. Then after getting an erection I stroked a few times. Felt even better. Then I couldn't stop and started stroking... at 50 strokes and about 2 away from the point of no return, I stopped. That was too close! I've got to control that MB devil in my head who is determined to make me MB. No more edging!!!

The best deterrent is knowing how letdown, disappointed, and negative you'd feel after a few seconds of unnatural, forced, manually induced orgasm. You'd obviously regret doing it. Yet if you had an intense orgasm in some kind of WD, you'd wake up excited, rewarded, and retain the horniness. Besides, the natural muscles to induce an orgasm aren't in the arm and hand, they are the ones that involve long, slow pelvic thrusts that maximize the feelings while delaying the orgasm as it builds up and up. At some point, MB and it's inevitable aftereffects can just become not that exciting or attractive any more.

Besides, if you still hadn't orgasmed at 50 strokes after so long of not doing it, perhaps the idea of going back to MB really just wasn't turning you on that much?

Thanks for the comments, Texanguy.

Eleven weeks today.
As for the previous edging, I was not stroking as I would in order to cum. When I edge, the strokes are slow, without muscle tension, breath holding or mental fantasy... more like a massage. When MBing for orgasm, it's fast, with muscle tension, a good fantasy and breath holding... usually takes 30 to 60 seconds. If I tried to edge using the "fast" method, I would certainly finish the job, even if I tried to stop.

Today I feel like I'm in my normal state of equilibrium, horny and full, but no urges to edge or cum.

Day 84

I had intended not to edge anymore, but have found that it just feels too good to resist. So I've edged every day for the last 5 or 6 days. Sometimes getting very close to the point of no return, other times not. Afterward I feel a sense of euphoria and no frustration. As a bonus it heightens my sense of sexual tension and fullness. I am determined not to ejaculate due to edging. The last release created regrets that I don't want to repeat. Since resuming edging, I've had "morning steel" every day.

I would not recommend edging for anyone new to AB. I've been going natural off and on for a long time, and think I can control what happens better now than when I first started.

How is edging affecting the non-edging t-buzz and horniness? My guess is that you are focusing your brain back onto MB, so that horniness is becoming increasingly tied to edging, and is thus less 'free floating'.

I was reading the other day of a guy reporting on a year of 'nofap' . Sometime late in that year he said he got a girlfriend and started having some sex. But he said that at first he would 'cum in his pants' before having the sex. He didn't go into detail about whether he could immediately follow up with having sex or had to wait awhile, although there's a pretty good chance, being out of the MB habit, that he could have sex almost immediately. And whether having sex or not, he said he was 'done' with MB.

The point is that he had gotten himself out of the MB habit. I'm sure he wasn't resisting MB when he started ejaculating in his pants because he was getting ready to have sex. Instead, it was very likely that a year of total AB had simply 'dried up' the brain paths between manual stimulation and orgasm, and he wasn't interested in MB.

The point is that 'going natural' means changing the brain paths that lead to orgasm and ejaculation. Intense manual stimulation is probably not a natural path, and not one that leads to the best, most complete, and most intense orgasms. Instead, it's one that leads to letdowns, regret, loss of energy, and all the other stuff we know about.

You are in a position to judge, but I would think that regular edging results in more 'congestion' and more overly full feelings, and actually diminishes 'free floating sexual energy' of long term AB and instead connects it to edging. Not to mention that it's almost inevitable that you'll eventually reach the point of no return, ejaculate, and immediately feel bad about it.

Good points, Texanguy.

Day 94

The last 2 days I was rushed in the morning and didn't have a chance to edge. I want to keep edging at the level of "can take it or leave it". It's becoming more of a pleasant massage then jerking off to have an orgasm. Orgasm and ejaculation are not desired, and are not the goal. Sexual tension without release used to be very uncomfortable, but now, with practice, I can slowly stimulate, with no fantasy or muscle tension, and experience satisfying pleasure without ejaculation. At the end of a session, I don't want to cum and don't feel deprived. The sensation is one of peace, comfort and sexual awareness. One limit I place on myself is no more than 50 strokes... no extra strokes after 50. Counting the strokes keeps my mind from wandering into a fantasy.

Day 95

I had a satisfying edging session this morning, and now I'm very horny and feeling good. As long as the edging doesn't lead to urges to cum, I'm good with it. Actually, I've been horny and full for so long, that it feels normal now.

On Oct 13, it will be a full year with only 2 ejaculations: June 29 and July 3.

I'm considering not edging for a few days to see how my level of sexual tension varies. My goal is not to feel "nothing", but to have a constant, pleasurable level of horniness, with periodic edging to elevate the pleasure, and without orgasm or ejaculation. Why no ejaculation? Because that resets the level of sexual feeling to zero.

I still think edging is counterproductive. While you might 'feel it' more while actually edging, you will logically feel it less during other times. And the desire to heighten the feelings can become increasingly coupled to edging, so that you become dependent on it for enjoyment.

A guy who hasn't MB'd for a year, and never edges, doesn't need any edging to 'feel it'. And just like you don't want to go where MB takes you, he may not want to tie his good feelings to edging.

Besides, whatever your chances for a good WD are, edging probably reduces them considerably. Having full on sex in WDs beats edging any day. And you stay horny afterwards.

You have time. Why not try no edging whatsoever for 2 or 3 months. See how you feel about edging after that.

Good points, Texanguy.

Actually I went 37 weeks from late 2016 until mid 2017 without edging. During that time I felt all of the good effects of not MBing, but I find edging very pleasurable. Maybe I'm substituting one addiction for another?? It feels good to have a few minutes of pleasure every day, even if it does not involve orgasm or ejaculation. If I don't edge, I have almost no precum, but lately there has been in increase in precum, especially just after edging. So what to do? The one thing I'm determined NOT to do is slip up and have a self induced ejaculation, because that would end all of the good feelings that have accumulated over the past 13 weeks.

14 weeks today

I had an intense workout this morning and am feeling good. Over the week-end I didn't edge, but I plan a good pleasure session in the shower in a few minutes. Right now stimulation without orgasm or ejaculation is both pleasurable and satisfying.

Day 100

Nothing special to report. Just that I seem to be in a state of horny equilibrium. Being able to stimulate without cumming only makes it better.

Today is a special day for me. One year ago today I started my journey to never MB again. On June 29, due to possible symptoms of prostatitis, I MBd, but everything was clear and the symptoms went away. Then, regrettably, 4 days later I did it again. So in the last 365 days, I've had a total of 2 ejaculations. At this point I'm back on track to never MB again... Today is day 103 and I'm feeling horny, T-buzzed, energetic and confident.

Congrats! Only wanked 2 times and no other releases!? Where does it go?

Day 106

To answer TheCanon's question: Semen can be expelled by induced ejaculation, prostatic massage (BM or finger pressure) SE, WD, or by small leakage during urination (an overflow system). It may or may not be re-absorbed by the body. In my case I think that my "tank" is always full and a little semen overflows during urination.

I decided not to edge over the week-end. So after 72 hours of no stimulation, I'm very horny and ready for edging this morning.

Day 108
Release since last MB on June 29 = 0

Yesterday I had a fantastic edging session. Altogether I used 100 strokes in the shower.
First 50 - within a stroke or two of cumming by stroke #47. Stopped for a few seconds then did the last 3.
Second 50 (3 minutes later) - About to cum by stroke #35. Stopped and started up to #50. At the edge 4 times, then stopped at #50. Wow... it felt sooooo good. And surprisingly I didn't have a strong urge to finish and cum. Great feeling physically... and mentally because I had control over what happened or did not happen.

I know this is risky behavior, but my desire not to cum and have to start over again is strong.

I'm considering putting some arbitrary controls on my edging. One idea was to toss a coin. If it comes up heads, then no edging or nipple play that day. If it comes up tails, I get to do nipple play. Then toss again, and if it comes up tails again, I can edge that day. I would do this Mon - Fri. No edging or nipple play on the week-end. It's just a thought at this time, but I might try it.

Day 109

Error correction: Last MB to orgasm was July 3.

I need to cut back on the edging. Each session seems to include more than the last. At first it was 50 strokes only, then 100. With 50 slow strokes I didn't get near the point of no return, but with 100, I can approach the PNR several times. Then do another 50+ to go to the edge 2 or 3 more times. At the end I'm one stroke away from cumming. Also, I've recently added rubbing on the sheets for a minute or so. All the added stimulation feels great, but it might lead to orgasm and ejaculation. Strangely, after an edging session I feel relaxed, horny, but not wanting to cum. I value constant, pleasurable sexual tension more than a brief ejaculation, with resulting loss of feeling.

I know that the answer is to stop edging completely, but edging feels so good.