You have found the secret!

[Grundig]

I cannot tell you how much resisting masturbation has changed my life in the past, I am so happy to see you all have discovered the benefits.
If your reading this for the first time, the claims are true, at least in my case. If I don't masturbate for 2-3 weeks, I am literally a new person. Just a few things that predictably happen to me every time I quit and I believe will happen to you as well:
1. I put on muscle easily (and I'm a hard gainer)
2. I feel happy, isn't that what we all want? My "baseline" is happy, I don't have to do things that make me happy b/c I'm already there, all day
3. Energy levels skyrocket
4. You need less sleep, and the sleep you do get will be better.
5. Increased memory, I'm a medical student and I objectively notice a difference in my test scores, probably due to increased energy as well
6. Girls will notice you- why? a.) B/c you'll be a better person/man. b.) I seriously think they can somehow sense/smell a man that is "empty", and your mood and interaction with them will be much different.
Let me tell you something plainly and I hope you believe me- If you don't have a girlfriend or have not met someone attractive that is attracted to you in a while, do these two things and that mystical girl will almost certainly be yours inside of a few months.
1.) Quit masturbating or even thinking about girls in a sexual way, especially QUIT MASTURBATING!
2.) Work out 30 minutes/day, EVERYDAY, mixing up aerobic and weight training.
If you think I'm crazy, try it, in 3 months you can scream at me if it doesn't work.
7. Your constant desire for sex will change into a normal sexual desire, that is, you will desire sex when it's about to actually happen. This will let you focus on things in life that are much more important like serving others, school, a new language, etc... I'm a Christian so, for me, this means enough energy to focus on what Christ wants from me.
8. In summary- I believe abstaining from masturbation will take your body and mind from a state of constant repair to a state of constant growth.

Wet dreams will relieve your body naturally and appropriately. Our involuntary pathways take care of the rest of our body processes beautifully (digestion, temperature, metabolism), why not let your body take control of your sexual functions? Instead, many are handing the controls over to our conscious mind that has been bombarded with artificial images since childhood. Let's break free. No more thoughts, no more images, no more masturbation. A better life is a few weeks away. It will be tough but we can make it!
The longest I have gone is 3 months, this website has inspired me so much that I have decided on a new goal. I will abstain from masturbation and ejaculate only in wet dreams until I'm married. One caveat, after the initial 3 months, if I have not had a wet dream in the previous 30 days, I will masturbate 1X/month just to keep things moving.

Good luck everyone! I will probably post 1-2 times a month to keep myself accountable.

[Thursday]

Our involuntary pathways take care of the rest of our body processes beautifully (digestion, temperature, metabolism), why not let your body take control of your sexual functions?

Welcome to WDF, Grundig! ^ That's a great point you've made. I agree with this quoted text above, with this caveat: we can take control - comparable with turning the "auto-pilot" off, [pressing the button which is turned "on" to auto-pilot when the (wo)man first decided to abstain from MB and waking orgasms and ejaculations, and in the way you've alluded to; allow your body to take care of this aspect of yourself - putting into the background as an involuntary action such as breathing - although the two are very different, I hope those reading can see the point of comparison here.] I'm a Catholic Christian by birth and carry on enacting the moral teachings in general, but no longer follow the theology. IOW I treat others as I wish to be treated, don't MB, fornicate, try my best to follow and abide by the Catholic Ten Commandments, etc.

Your opening post is one of the best, if not the best, first post by a new forum member [FM] I've seen. I agree with most of it. Personally, I don't want to MB at all though. Perhaps every few years to test the system, although I did this a couple of years ago, but don't want to repeat this any-time soon, since I'm confident at this point that my reproductive system doesn't need testing until I'm married and trying to procreate. I also agree (sorry if this is OT) that sexual intercourse should be procreative and unitive (sp?) too. However I'm also considering non-orgasmic sex which may not be procreative, I'm unsure, and this will be between me and my future wife too. Basically I don't want to have damaging sex, involving peak-orgasms and the prolactin and dopamine instability. I want to foster oxytocin release and maintenance of ideal levels active in the human body. Perhaps at times an asexual relationship would be preferable to non-orgasmic sex; this is an interesting line of thought for me to go down. I'm considering the best way(s) for my future marriage survive until death naturally parts us in old-age (me and my future wife,) since it's became clear to me that having peak-orgasmic sex, such as what seems to be "the norm." these days ~ and using the contraceptive pill for women in long-term sexual-relationships, or condoms in short-term sexual-relationships and so-called "sexual encounters", is also widely considered to be "the norm." too, which is sad ( ) IMO. Abstaining from all sexual activity outside of marriage, and being careful when married to not become another "seven year itch" victim of a prolactin-destroyed sexual-relationship, one characterised by peak-orgasms and ejaculations forcing the couple out of love, so that the father can "move on" and create & raise another child through infancy 'till the age of about seven, and then onto the third wife ~ ... or staying in an unhappy marriage - one destroyed by "nature" ~ prolactin trying to make the man move on, which makes sense from the point of view of evolutionary biology, but not "social biology" if there is such a thing ~ well I hope those who are reading this understand the point I'm trying to make. Peak-orgasms and ejaculations destroy sexual-relationships. I'm of the firm opinion that it's best to have "full". regular, "normal" peak-orgasmic sex when the married couple are trying to procreate - their sexual energy and physical "sexual" bodily fluids are merged and the life-force is passed-on to the new life in the mother's womb. This is why abortion is never justified from the point of conception - you're destroying a life that's just been created. The victim has been alive for seconds, minutes, hours, days or weeks at most; before they're brutally killed. Alas, this is another issue. I can't carry on in this direction because I'll be going ~ sorry ~ now back on topic...

I've formatted as underlined and bold your [ ~ I'm addressing Grundig now,... ~ ] observations/theories here, which I've quoted;

6. Girls will notice you- why? a.) B/c you'll be a better person/man. b.) I seriously think they can somehow sense/smell a man that is "empty", and your mood and interaction with them will be much different.

I have opined about something similar. I think pheromone release may be relevant here - somehow there may be a "smell" emitted by people like me and you, which let's girls/child-baring-age-women know that we don't MB or have waking peak-orgasms and ejaculations, and haven't done so for a very long time. Hopefully this makes us more attractive by letting us be known to the girls, on an unconscious level, that we're pure - so hopefully like attracts like, and we'll find girls who are like us - in that they're pure souls; they're perhaps Christians or like me, live by Catholic morality but not theology - so I'm a good catholic who doesn't believe in the "theory" - ironically, although I'm only a Catholic by birth and don't go to church or believe in Catholic theology, I'm perhaps "ahead" of some of the Catholics who attend church nearly every Sunday, who perhaps still MB from time to time, or break the moral-code in some ways. I'm not claiming to be "better," I know though that MB is an issue that a lot of Catholic boys and men in particular (girls and women too, but less of them,) find a problem - because they're addicted (most of them - this is my opinion BTW ~ not "fact.")

Well this is all I'll type in response to the OP [ ~ your first post ( & a good post too) - Grundig] for now. Sorry for any spelling or gramatical errors in this post ~ Im going to check-over this post in more detail, when I have some more time tomorrow.


Grundig:- Again ~ to WDF!




Grundig's excellent 1st post, preserved by me: ** I've made this copy of the OP by Grundig because sometimes good posts can become deleted, so to view the original first-post on this thread, you may copy the text below, and then a paste into any word-processing program - and then simply increase the font size, and change the colour to black if you like, or re-format the post as you see fit, to make it legible to you, since it's you reading it in all likelihood of course! Finally, at the very bottom of this post is the URL back to the top (the OP.)
I cannot tell you how much resisting masturbation has changed my life in the past, I am so happy to see you all have discovered the benefits.
If your reading this for the first time, the claims are true, at least in my case. If I don't masturbate for 2-3 weeks, I am literally a new person. Just a few things that predictably happen to me every time I quit and I believe will happen to you as well:
1. I put on muscle easily (and I'm a hard gainer)
2. I feel happy, isn't that what we all want? My "baseline" is happy, I don't have to do things that make me happy b/c I'm already there, all day
3. Energy levels skyrocket
4. You need less sleep, and the sleep you do get will be better.
5. Increased memory, I'm a medical student and I objectively notice a difference in my test scores, probably due to increased energy as well
6. Girls will notice you- why? a.) B/c you'll be a better person/man. b.) I seriously think they can somehow sense/smell a man that is "empty", and your mood and interaction with them will be much different.
Let me tell you something plainly and I hope you believe me- If you don't have a girlfriend or have not met someone attractive that is attracted to you in a while, do these two things and that mystical girl will almost certainly be yours inside of a few months.
1.) Quit masturbating or even thinking about girls in a sexual way, especially QUIT MASTURBATING!
2.) Work out 30 minutes/day, EVERYDAY, mixing up aerobic and weight training.
If you think I'm crazy, try it, in 3 months you can scream at me if it doesn't work.
7. Your constant desire for sex will change into a normal sexual desire, that is, you will desire sex when it's about to actually happen. This will let you focus on things in life that are much more important like serving others, school, a new language, etc... I'm a Christian so, for me, this means enough energy to focus on what Christ wants from me.
8. In summary- I believe abstaining from masturbation will take your body and mind from a state of constant repair to a state of constant growth.

Wet dreams will relieve your body naturally and appropriately. Our involuntary pathways take care of the rest of our body processes beautifully (digestion, temperature, metabolism), why not let your body take control of your sexual functions? Instead, many are handing the controls over to our conscious mind that has been bombarded with artificial images since childhood. Let's break free. No more thoughts, no more images, no more masturbation. A better life is a few weeks away. It will be tough but we can make it!
The longest I have gone is 3 months, this website has inspired me so much that I have decided on a new goal. I will abstain from masturbation and ejaculate only in wet dreams until I'm married. One caveat, after the initial 3 months, if I have not had a wet dream in the previous 30 days, I will masturbate 1X/month just to keep things moving.

Good luck everyone! I will probably post 1-2 times a month to keep myself accountable.


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[shadow_flare]

Awesome way to keep me determined. My hunt for a girl will be a good one then. Most of what you say are things I currently exp.

So much determination and energy I sense in your post. This gives me hope and happiness to keep going.

[jonthejester]

Hey Grundig. I read your post, and wanted to say that was awesome! I totally agree with you 100% and appreciated you saying all those things. If only all my other friends dealing with this ugly addiction could see these practical benefits, aside from the moral value, which even that they haven't seen yet. Yeah though, I'm also a Christian, Eastern Orthodox actually, and, other than knowing it's wrong from what the tradition has said--because, they believe, it's an act of selfishness and improper use of what God has made by nature--I just know IN PRACTICE it has deterred in my faith, helping to make me more earthbound than heavenward. So yeah, I REALLY appreciate what you said. Keep at it my fellow friend!

[Grundig]

Hey guys!

Thanks for the warm welcome and interesting comments, I haven't posted since coming to the site and just wanted to give an update.
In short, it worked. I'll explain.

Everything I thought would happen came true. (see below) I don't know if it was a result of the confidence I had from withholding or from some boost directly from the added energy/nutition/balance/etc.. Probably a little bit of both.

Whatever did it, this is what has happened since my last post...1.)I met the love of my life and we are in an amazing relationship 2.) Got in better shape more quickly than ever before 3.) Gained energy, confidence, and initiative 4.) Improvements in my focus and memory 5.) I lost count of how many wet dreams I had. 6.) My relationship with Christ improved significantly.

I am not selling something so you can trust me, this works!! It's worked before for me and it worked this time, better than ever. Guys, this is for real. I just want everyone to have a chance at being this happy, wake up and snap out of the lie you've been sold by our culture. Then wake someone else up.

Disclaimer: I am not saying that withholding from masturbation is the key to happiness, it is however, a key positive step for a man. A good diet, regular exercise, sunshine, hard work, and God are really the only other major pieces to the puzzle. Also, as I said in my other post, I masturbated 1X month if no wet dreams came, that actually jump started them.

One more thing. I don't know about everyone else, but I think an important component of my happiness after I quit masturbating was that I finally let go of the almost unconscious feeling that I didn't deserve some of these good things in my life because I was masturbating. Almost like the pleasure had to balance out the pain. Classic guilt. I finally was able to embrace the good things that happened to me and I felt as if, not only did I have the initiative to chase down the right girl, I finally felt like I deserved her. Obviously, this is a psychological hangup and most of you don't deal with this, but I'm not afraid to mention it because I think it might help a few of you reading this.

Sex is great...with someone else at the right time, it's beyond description.

Good luck everybody, what a great site!

[Squeeze]

Wow, grundig! Thanks so much for your inspirational post and the testimony of your progress as you've applied these principals! I will try to follow suit!

[sopater]

I totally agree with what grundig is saying. The way of the wet dreamer is much better than any other.