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by WillWait » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:27 am
17 Days Without Ejaculating
PLEASE DON'T GIVE IN no matter how "desperate" you might TEMPORARILY be. I'm blessed/cursed with one of those libidos that is still virtually as powerful as when I was 18. I've kept hoping the sexual desire would subside at least somewhat with each passing year. So for me it's incredible achieving 17 days without ejaculating as of today! I was much more easily able to exercise my usual 4 miles this morning; it seemed almost effortless. On day 16, last evening, I was afraid of giving in. The desire was getting stronger. So before I risked wasting/losing this wonderful energy, I started swimming laps in the pool. You know what, that really helped cure the annoying arousal. I guess it's true that it you redirect that desire quickly enough, instead of giving in, you can "take care of it" by something as simple as swimming. I was skeptical that this would work, and fully expected the urge to be unbearable by later in day 16. But now it's midway thru day 17 and I'm feeling great, actually! There's some arousal, but it's actually welcome and pleasant. It's not the "I must cum now or else I'll die" trap that we've all fallen for in the past. Some say if you can make it to a certain point, the desire won't be as overwhelming as it was. Maybe I'm at that point. Time will tell.
I think this current 17 days is the furthest I've made it since March of the year I was 14! That month, I made it a full 31 days without any ejaculation. I recall accomplishing a major project installing miles of cable over a 200-acre property that March. Hmmm, wonder if I'd ever gotten that done if not for abstaining? I doubt it.
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by WillWait » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:47 am
17 Days Without Ejaculating
Testicles are very sensitive, feel heavy and swollen, and hurt at times. What are the chances I could be doing any physical damage by going 17 days and counting without any ejaculation? I keep reading that males should ejaculate at least once every 14 days or risk prostate problems, infection, etc.
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by WillWait » Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:18 am
19 Days Without Ejaculating as of today; Very Close to a Wet Dream last night!
I feel phenomenal this morning! Perhaps the best I've felt in years. Maybe partly because I didn't really touch any more than necessary for hygiene yesterday, and not at all today. A little precum suddently appeared after taking out the trash last evening, along with a sort of minor contraction. I wasn't thinking or doing anything sexual at the time. That was strange. During the night I awoke seemingly on the verge of a "wet dream" and a pretty full bladder. It felt like if I didn't immediately get up and urinate it would explode all on its own. Contractions to ejaculation seemed to be starting. So I waited, but then nothing else happened. So I urinated, and all was fine. Went right back to sleep. Is there any correlation between full bladder and wet dream? It was full, but not bursting.
This morning, after returning from a 4-mile exercise trail, I was surprised to discover a few drops of actual semen. However, I felt nothing sexual while exercsing. No erection while exercising.
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by Texanguy » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:16 pm
WillWait wrote:19 Days Without Ejaculating as of today; Very Close to a Wet Dream last night!
I feel phenomenal this morning! Perhaps the best I've felt in years. Maybe partly because I didn't really touch any more than necessary for hygiene yesterday, and not at all today. A little precum suddently appeared after taking out the trash last evening, along with a sort of minor contraction. I wasn't thinking or doing anything sexual at the time. That was strange. During the night I awoke seemingly on the verge of a "wet dream" and a pretty full bladder. It felt like if I didn't immediately get up and urinate it would explode all on its own. Contractions to ejaculation seemed to be starting. So I waited, but then nothing else happened. So I urinated, and all was fine. Went right back to sleep. Is there any correlation between full bladder and wet dream? It was full, but not bursting.
This morning, after returning from a 4-mile exercise trail, I was surprised to discover a few drops of actual semen. However, I felt nothing sexual while exercsing. No erection while exercising.
I don't think there is a correlation between a full bladder and WD's, but perhaps it varies with the person. You seem to be enjoying the effects of not MBing. Think about the fact that millions of guys around the world don't MB. All of what you are experiencing is the norm for them, and MB takes all of it away. In cultures where MB is strongly discouraged or thought to be unhealthy, WD's are considered the natural and proper outlet. Non-MBers can also feel quite aroused at times without getting an erection. Maybe all of these effects are natural and normal. By not MBing, you are letting natural brain and body functions occur that MB inhibits, including WD's. What feels better, more exciting, and more 'sexual' -- MBing and going back to zero, or continuing to explore going longer and longer without MB, hopefully moving on to multiple WD's? Once you start enjoying the natural effects of abstaining, can you really enjoy going back to MB? Sure, you could go back, but could you enjoy it? Maybe your brain and body are telling you that MB has become a pointless negative and is now obsolete. I think it can be more sexually expressive and mature to decide to never waste the feelings and energy on MB than go back to it. WD's are just a part of it -- a natural and enjoyable part.
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by WillWait » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:03 am
20 Days Without Ejaculating as of today
Maybe I've reached a milestone of sorts at 20 days? Felt pretty aroused last night, but didn't give in other than totally enjoying a couple hours of really intense edging. I was concerned about failing to stop in time to make sure no ejaculation happened, and about possibly getting vascocongestion. Neither of these was a problem! I'm proud to say I dare didn't let a single drop of semen escape--but plenty of precum. I don't think I've ever gotten that close to ejaculating--over and over again for 2 hours--without going over the edge. It was hard to get to sleep, both literally and figuratively. But wow, what a great experience! This morning it was nice to awaken flaccid. "This is not so bad," I thought. A moment later the corner of the blanket barely brushed against me, resulting in everything being fully erect in an instant. The erection doesn't seem to want to go down, either. That means no more touching until unless it gets calmed down again. But still it feels kinda nice to have all this sexual frustration energy coursing through me. I'm learning that it's OK to just enjoy the horniness. You don't have to do anything about it. Unlike past times, I'm trying to some extent to "enjoy" the arousal without giving in. So far the sexual frustration seems manageable, not overwhelming like usual. But I'm better at resisting temptation in the morning, when the urge to ejaculate (or at least masturbate shy of ejaculation) typically isn't as overwhelming. It's a huge accomplishment for me to make it to 20 days.
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by WillWait » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:58 am
Texanguy wrote:WillWait wrote:19 Days Without Ejaculating as of today; Very Close to a Wet Dream last night!
I feel phenomenal this morning! Perhaps the best I've felt in years. Maybe partly because I didn't really touch any more than necessary for hygiene yesterday, and not at all today. A little precum suddently appeared after taking out the trash last evening, along with a sort of minor contraction. I wasn't thinking or doing anything sexual at the time. That was strange. During the night I awoke seemingly on the verge of a "wet dream" and a pretty full bladder. It felt like if I didn't immediately get up and urinate it would explode all on its own. Contractions to ejaculation seemed to be starting. So I waited, but then nothing else happened. So I urinated, and all was fine. Went right back to sleep. Is there any correlation between full bladder and wet dream? It was full, but not bursting.
This morning, after returning from a 4-mile exercise trail, I was surprised to discover a few drops of actual semen. However, I felt nothing sexual while exercsing. No erection while exercising.
I don't think there is a correlation between a full bladder and WD's, but perhaps it varies with the person. You seem to be enjoying the effects of not MBing. Think about the fact that millions of guys around the world don't MB. All of what you are experiencing is the norm for them, and MB takes all of it away. In cultures where MB is strongly discouraged or thought to be unhealthy, WD's are considered the natural and proper outlet. Non-MBers can also feel quite aroused at times without getting an erection. Maybe all of these effects are natural and normal. By not MBing, you are letting natural brain and body functions occur that MB inhibits, including WD's. What feels better, more exciting, and more 'sexual' -- MBing and going back to zero, or continuing to explore going longer and longer without MB, hopefully moving on to multiple WD's? Once you start enjoying the natural effects of abstaining, can you really enjoy going back to MB? Sure, you could go back, but could you enjoy it? Maybe your brain and body are telling you that MB has become a pointless negative and is now obsolete. I think it can be more sexually expressive and mature to decide to never waste the feelings and energy on MB than go back to it. WD's are just a part of it -- a natural and enjoyable part.
Texanguy, excellent observations! Making it to 20 days (and counting) without ejaculating is a huge accomplishment for me. Yet, it really puts things into perspective to realize that in other parts of the world, enjoying the excitement of carrying around a 20-day accumulation of sexual frustration would be no big deal. Maybe those not living in a oversexed culture don't get as strong of an urge? Or maybe they do feel overwhelming desire, but have been taught never to waste a drop no matter how tempting? I wonder if guys edge in these cultures...likely not, I'd guess. For me, it's honestly better not to ejaculate at all. It seems like no matter how long I abstain, just one ejaculation isn't enough. After weeks or months of abstaining, you'd think sure, maybe just one ejaculation is now OK--then I'll go immediately back to abstaining before any further energy loss. The problem seems to be that even one ejaculation then fuels intense desire for at least one or two more. By then, yes, I'm hopelessly lethargic. So no ejaculation means less sexual frustration. Another counter-intuitive reality. What about ruined ejaculations? Some people tout them as an effective way to manage sexual frustration without the horrible energy loss and multiple problems a normal ejaculation causes. I've never tried a ruined ejaculation.
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by Ace Amoeba » Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:09 am
Congratulation on 20 days. I'm at 15 myself and this is where it gets much more difficult. My question for you is do you find that edging only increases urges, but I'm assuming you are doing it to get through one more I suppose it can only be taken one day at a time by this stage in the game.
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by WillWait » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:08 am
Ace, 20 Days Without Ejaculating as of today is so huge for me, that just getting here is the main point. I'm soooo horny right now, but I love it! Ultimately I think I'll be better off not touching at all. I might be at that point now. Maybe edging helped me make it 20 days. But any further edging and I'm likely in danger of ruining this wonderful experience for a 3-second spurt of brief joy. My advice would be to edge as much as your body can handle till you make it past the first few weeks. Then hands off until you get a wet dream.
Felt pretty aroused last night, but didn't give in other than totally enjoying a couple hours of really intense edging. I was concerned about failing to stop in time to make sure no ejaculation happened, and about possibly getting vascocongestion. Neither of these was a problem! I'm proud to say I dare didn't let a single drop of semen escape--but plenty of precum. I don't think I've ever gotten that close to ejaculating--over and over again for 2 hours--without going over the edge. It was hard to get to sleep, both literally and figuratively. But wow, what a great experience! This morning it was nice to awaken flaccid. "This is not so bad," I thought. A moment later the corner of the blanket barely brushed against me, resulting in everything being fully erect in an instant. The erection doesn't seem to want to go down, either. That means no more touching until unless it gets calmed down again. But still it feels kinda nice to have all this sexual frustration energy coursing through me. I'm learning that it's OK to just enjoy the horniness. You don't have to do anything about it. Unlike past times, I'm trying to some extent to "enjoy" the arousal without giving in. So far the sexual frustration seems manageable, not overwhelming like usual. But I'm better at resisting temptation in the morning, when the urge to ejaculate (or at least masturbate shy of ejaculation) typically isn't as overwhelming. It's a huge accomplishment for me to make it to 20 days.
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by WillWait » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:12 am
22 Days
Having made it past the critical 3 weeks--where one is at high risk of succumbing in a weak moment--I won't bore you with posting every day unless something interesting happens. I'm still hanging on; have not lost my load! Last night my girl wanted intercourse. All the edging of I've done really helped me hang on, and she LOVED how big, angry-looking, swollen and purple my penis got. After about 20 minutes of intercourse I had to decide IF I'm willing to shoot. Normally I would ruin my abstaining for a wet dream at this point. I was still in full control, and decided I'm definitely not ready to give up the exhilarating buzz that withholding ejaculation gives me every day. So I put on several condoms, which perfectly allowed me to continue intercourse for a full hour. She loved how this made me ever more fully erect, and I loved how I didn't have to worry about losing my hard-earned load. So I was able to continue nearly an hour, fully satisfying her. Toward the end I started to maybe feel just the beginning of blue balls, something I hardly ever get. But it went away in a minute or two. Now this morning, I would feel so tired if had lost my load last night, Instead, I feel really alive, full of energy. I looked to see if my balls look any bigger since they're so full, but they look the same to me.
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by Texanguy » Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:12 am
What you describe matches some eastern philosophies quite well They believe in not wasting semen and the energy, certainly never in MB, but also normally not in intercourse either. Your description of how you'd feel the next day if you had cum vs not cum matches their idea of saving the energy being healthier. While some see the idea of also never ejaculating in WD's either to be the ideal, they feel that WD's do not dissipate the energy and are at any rate expected and natural for most people. This also matches what we see here at this site. Many here claim that WD's can increase energy and horniness, whereas MB certainly decreases energy and replaces it with a letdown.
Most full time WDers don't edge (stimulate themselves to get close to orgasm then stop), and you might experience even more energy and increase the chances for WD's if you stopped doing that.
Good luck in continuing down this new path!
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by WillWait » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:52 am
Texanguy wrote:What you describe matches some eastern philosophies quite well They believe in not wasting semen and the energy, certainly never in MB, but also normally not in intercourse either. Your description of how you'd feel the next day if you had cum vs not cum matches their idea of saving the energy being healthier. While some see the idea of also never ejaculating in WD's either to be the ideal, they feel that WD's do not dissipate the energy and are at any rate expected and natural for most people. This also matches what we see here at this site. Many here claim that WD's can increase energy and horniness, whereas MB certainly decreases energy and replaces it with a letdown.
Most full time WDers don't edge (stimulate themselves to get close to orgasm then stop), and you might experience even more energy and increase the chances for WD's if you stopped doing that.
Good luck in continuing down this new path!
Thanks for your words of encouragement, Texanguy! A man should ejaculate only once every 10 to 12 times he has sex, and should never masturbate at all, advise Taoists. They don't seem to leave room for edging per se, unless one counts nonejaculatory intercourse as edging? My honey's only wants intercourse about twice a month. So if I follow the advice "A man should ejaculate only once every 10 to 12 times he has sex," it seems likely I'll get a wet dream before I get to that 10th or 12th intercourse...
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by scorkin21 » Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:48 pm
WillWait wrote: A man should ejaculate only once every 10 to 12 times he has sex, and should never masturbate at all, advise Taoists. They don't seem to leave room for edging per se, unless one counts nonejaculatory intercourse as edging? My honey's only wants intercourse about twice a month. So if I follow the advice "A man should ejaculate only once every 10 to 12 times he has sex," it seems likely I'll get a wet dream before I get to that 10th or 12th intercourse...
Thanks for your advice. My religion is Taoism, but I do not know about this at all (cos I'm not really an avid one, and we do not go schools for Taoist teachings). Now that you have said that, I'm more determined to get a wet dream now. Although at the age of 20, I'm still a virgin and have not had sex yet, I think that the hard work that we put in will eventually be paid off by awarding us with a wonderful WD. Thanks once again. scorkin21
Begin With the End in Mind. We know that WD is our goal, and to do that, we have to abstain from MB, so let's do it. Go! Go! Go! We can all do it.
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by WillWait » Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:50 am
Incredibly horny today
I'm at 23 days. Being a virgin for almost 23 years, it was actually easier for me to not be so tempted to masturbate. I didn't start having regular intercourse until I got married at age 26. I was a virgin until almost age 23. It's easier to avoid what you don't know. Once I began regular intercourse at age 26, my sex drive went wild--and I masturbated more than ever before. The intensity of my libido stayed every bit as strong for 15 years after that. I'd cum 3 or 4 times a day, sometimes. Maybe once from intercourse, then one or two more times from masturbation. The last year or so the horniness factor has slightly reduced, but not much. I'm actually grateful for the slight improvement!
Ever since I've proudly achieved 20 days or so without any ejaculation earlier this week I've been sticking to "safe" edging of sorts--if you can even call it edging. I never actually touch my penis anymore to edge, as that's way too dangerous. Instead, simply by wearing too loose-fitting shorts (but not loose enough to fall down!) and/or going commando one can a plethora of enjoyable activities with minimal risk of ejaculating. Bicycling, running, and swimming are just a few. That bit of arousal I get by doing these things assures my sex drive that I'm not totally ignoring it. I'm also making sure to make plans that keep me with others, or at least away from home, so I don't have any privacy to masturbate.
Incredibly horny today--and sooo tempted--this afternoon as my sexual frustration is 'coming' (but I'm NOT cumming) to a boil. (I'm keeping the mantra in mind: "This Too Shall Pass.") It feels like it would take just mere seconds to make it spurt and "feel better." Of course, we've now learned that sexual frustration is something to be cherished and enjoyed--not wasted in a moment's weakness, leading to days/weeks of being lethargic and ruined wet dream opportunities. I'm more than happy to save my horniness in order to achieve hard-earned release through (eventual) wet dreams--so I now know better than to stupidly ejaculate! No matter how long it's been since we've last cum, we know that giving in to that "first" cum will only "help" for an hour or so, then drive our sexual frustration into the stratosphere. Which leads to at least one or two more ejaculations. Then we're "blah" instead of horny.
Whenever I get in the horniness "danger zone" like today, it's wise to take steps to ensure one don't have any opportunity to masturbate to ejaculation. When a comedy club called with free tickets for this evening's show, I jumped on it. By the time I get home after the comedy show, the temporary temptation to squirt will more than likely have passed.
Last evening I actually felt at "equilibrium," enjoying the perfect amount of sexual desire: Not too horny; not too empty. So I took a swim in our community pool, mindlessly grabbing the first pair of swim trunks I spotted. I honestly didn't realize that the elastic had pretty much given way, since the shorts are at least 10 years old. So I had to deal with some unexpected stimulation from these loose shorts. My penis got somewhat hard, but nowhere near fully erect. I thought I was fine until afterward, when I used the outdoor pool shower attached to the bathhouse. Without warning all of a sudden I felt like I was getting close to cumming! At that instant a bolt of lightning struck nearby. It's almost as though God didn't want me to waste everything! I immediately left the pool area and went inside as the thunderstorm began. Fortunately I had redirected my sexual frustration to all that swimming earlier in the evening, so was able to get to sleep quickly.
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by scorkin21 » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:24 pm
WillWait wrote:Incredibly horny today
I'm at 23 days. Being a virgin for almost 23 years, it was actually easier for me to not be so tempted to masturbate. Ever since I've proudly achieved 20 days or so without any ejaculation earlier this week I've been sticking to "safe" edging of sorts--if you can even call it edging. I never actually touch my penis anymore to edge, as that's way too dangerous. Instead, simply by wearing too loose-fitting shorts (but not loose enough to fall down!) and/or going commando one can a plethora of enjoyable activities with minimal risk of ejaculating. I'm more than happy to save my horniness in order to achieve hard-earned release through (eventual) wet dreams--so I now know better than to stupidly ejaculate! No matter how long it's been since we've last cum, we know that giving in to that "first" cum will only "help" for an hour or so, then drive our sexual frustration into the stratosphere. Which leads to at least one or two more ejaculations. Then we're "blah" instead of horny. Last evening I actually felt at "equilibrium," enjoying the perfect amount of sexual desire: Not too horny; not too empty. So I took a swim in our community pool, mindlessly grabbing the first pair of swim trunks I spotted. I honestly didn't realize that the elastic had pretty much given way, since the shorts are at least 10 years old. So I had to deal with some unexpected stimulation from these loose shorts. My penis got somewhat hard, but nowhere near fully erect. I thought I was fine until afterward, when I used the outdoor pool shower attached to the bathhouse. Without warning all of a sudden I felt like I was getting close to cumming! At that instant a bolt of lightning struck nearby. It's almost as though God didn't want me to waste everything! I immediately left the pool area and went inside as the thunderstorm began. Fortunately I had redirected my sexual frustration to all that swimming earlier in the evening, so was able to get to sleep quickly.
Hey WillWait, I truly agree with what you say. We should by any chance waste our efforts just for that few seconds of ejaculation. I admire how and the ways that you have adopted so as to prevent yourself from getting back to MB, hence destroying your hopes of WD. I salute you for all you have done. As to what happen during your swim last evening, wow! I'm sure our penis will become stimulated by whatsoever means much more easier as the days of abstaining become longer. Anything could just get us SHOOTING what we do not want it to be SHOOTED. But you have done a very good job, nature has also given you a hand so as to prevent you from falling into the pothole. Keep on enduring and I'm sure you will soon get what you want. scorkin21
Begin With the End in Mind. We know that WD is our goal, and to do that, we have to abstain from MB, so let's do it. Go! Go! Go! We can all do it.
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by WillWait » Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:41 am
24 Days Thanks Scorkin and everyone for your ongoing encouragement! It seems like the even-numbered days are easier to abstain from masturbating. My sexual frustration was temporarily at a fever pitch ![Mad :x](./images/smilies/angry/fire.gif) yesterday afternoon, but fortunately going out for the evening kept me a good boy. I love going going commando, but have to adjust this during times of extreme horniness. On those occasions I wear briefs tight enough so nothing can bounce around--or I go commando, I do it wearing shorts that are not particularly soft or pleasant against my penis. Nylon shorts are great for this, for just one example. Walking around commando in them becomes just slightly unpleasant, certainly not arousing. It's great for tapping the arousal factor down a notch. So I wore the nylon shorts to the comedy club last night. Our table seemed surrounded by incredibly attractive ![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif) young people. I felt like asking, "Are you a model? If not, you should be!" I guess everyone starts to look atypically attractive when you've abstained for 24 days. Maybe it's a variation of the "beer goggles" phenomenon. So far I'm not horny for octogenarians--so my body must be adapting to my wet dream mode/quest. Anyway, I laughed so hard I cried--the show was that funny. Got home late and the horny phase had passed! So glad I didn't give in during those brief yet intensively tempting moments yesterday afternoon. Just now my honey and I got back from going out to a $5 movie matinee. The horniness level has been OK today, not anything overwhelming. I just knew if I could hold out that my desire to NOT spurt would become stronger, and today it is. I put on some nice, soft cotton shorts and went commando to the theater. These shorts feel fantastic against my penis. They can be too arousing if I have to walk far in them, but the theater is very close by. These shorts also allow very easy access--just in case my honey's hands wanted to do any "wandering" during the movie. She's hardly ever agreeable to doing that, but hey, a horny guy can hope! If she said yes, that might have been the one thing worth blowing my load. So yes, the fire of lust was building yet again as we walked into the theater. Alas, it was PACKED with people, as it's a new movie that just came out: "The Proposal" with Sandra Bullock, Ryan Reynolds, and Betty White. Excellent film! My honey will never do anything risque unless the theater is mostly empty, so no chance for me to waste my ejaculation today. Oh well, I'd probably have been so worried about making my shorts all wet anyway that I would have immediately removed her hand from inside my shorts if I dare got too close to ![Naughty :naughty:](./images/smilies/eusa/naughty.gif) ejaculating. And with a packed theater, I don't think my body would even LET me cum--too worried anyone might notice. A little gentle caressing or teasing during the movie might have been nice, though. But at least I greatly enjoyed seeing Sandra Bullock mostly nude in the movie! I'm noticing that going commando doesn't seem to be as risky as one might think. It can allow for some enjoyable arousal, even provide enough stimulation for edging. But as a sort of safeguard, I think my brain is extremely reluctant to let me spurt ![Exclamation :!:](./images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif) into my shorts. My brain says any ejaculation would leave an extremely noticeable, embarrassing wetness through the inside of my shorts. Going commando would only make this even more of a noticeable mess. So maybe my brain is smart enough to keep me from ![Naughty :naughty:](./images/smilies/eusa/naughty.gif) ejaculating away all my hopes and (wet) dreams?
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by WillWait » Sun Jun 21, 2009 1:57 am
25 Days - Body seems very very close to a wet dream Pretty close to a wet dream last night! Dreamed that a hottie was doing "slow masturbation" on me seemingly all night long. (Slow masturbation where you get 10 long, very slow strokes, then 5 quick short strokes, then 10 long, very slow strokes, etc. etc. It's pretty hard to cum doing slow masturbation, or at least you get to enjoy exciting ![Dance :banana-dance:](./images/smilies/banana/dance.gif) sensations for a nice long time before any risk of ![Naughty :naughty:](./images/smilies/eusa/naughty.gif) ejaculating. You can do slow masturbation to yourself, or someone can do it for you.) Anyway in the dream I was telling my hottie I'm saving ALL cum for a wet dream, so I can not cum. A while later I finally asked my hottie to either stop NOW or make me cum--this is making me way too horny. But the too-slow masturbation continued nonetheless. Eventually I decided YES, I'm going to ask my hottie to just go ahead let me spurt away! Then my alarm clock rang! ![Bang Head :angry-banghead:](./images/smilies/angry/banghead.gif) Yes, my penis was about as erect as it ever gets and throbbing, but not on the verge of ejaculating. No, everything was still totally dry down there. ![Cussing Black :angry-cussingblack:](./images/smilies/angry/cussingblack.gif) Interestingly, I didn't even feel a need to get up and piss. Usually for me I wake up with overfilled bladder after having a dream like this. Oh well, at least I got to enjoy a really erotic dream, and sort of experience a wet dream--except for the "wet" part, that is. I wonder if this means my body is really close to relieving my pent up semen with a wet dream? Would I very likely have spurted a wet dream if the blasted alarm clock hadn't interrupted ![Bang Head :angry-banghead:](./images/smilies/angry/banghead.gif) everything this morning?
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by Lucid » Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:31 am
WillWait wrote:Would I very likely have spurted a wet dream if the blasted alarm clock hadn't interrupted ![Bang Head :angry-banghead:](./images/smilies/angry/banghead.gif) everything this morning?
Haha.. that’s a shame too, since it’s a Saturday and you could have slept in.. unless you had something to do today... These disappointments are all too common for me too. I usually wake up just when things are starting to get good. ![Cussing Black :angry-cussingblack:](./images/smilies/angry/cussingblack.gif)
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by PlainsMustang » Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:14 am
Very cool to see other guys trying and liking going commando. ![Thumb Up :handgestures-thumbup:](./images/smilies/handgestures/thumbup.gif) I converted a couple years ago and I haven't gone back. I wish you guys the best in your continuing WD endeavors. You're up to some good numbers there; keep up the good work!
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by scorkin21 » Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:08 pm
Hey WillWait.... You are doing very well now. Keep up the good work. I'm happy for you that you also like being in commando. The feeling is just too great for us. WD is coming to us pretty soon, so long we don't give in to MB and ejaculate our more than 3 weeks of load. Just remember, SEE NO TOUCH. Don't go to physical stimulation when you are rewarding yourself with some mental stimulation. WAY TO GO!!! Will be in military camp from mon to fri ![Sniper In Prone Position :violence-sniperprone:](./images/smilies/violence/sniperprone.gif) .... wun be responding to forum. I will take care of myself and not let my dick erupt. Will be waiting for WD also.
Begin With the End in Mind. We know that WD is our goal, and to do that, we have to abstain from MB, so let's do it. Go! Go! Go! We can all do it.
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by aficionado » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:41 am
WillWait wrote: Oh well, at least I got to enjoy a really erotic dream, and sort of experience a wet dream--except for the "wet" part, that is. I wonder if this means my body is really close to relieving my pent up semen with a wet dream? Would I very likely have spurted a wet dream if the blasted alarm clock hadn't interrupted ![Bang Head :angry-banghead:](./images/smilies/angry/banghead.gif) everything this morning?
It could mean your are close to having a WD. Although I've had experiences where I slept right through a WD and didn't realize I even had one until noticing the "evidence" in the morning, I've also had one experience where I woke up several times one night from "almost WDs" and then went back to sleep and had an actual full blown WD. If it happens again, and you have the time, and you aren't too wired to get back to sleep, you could experiment with trying to get back to sleep again and seeing if you can finish the dream and have a full blown WD. I've only been successful doing this once - usually I'm too aroused to get back to sleep - but it might work for you. From reading your posts, you seem really determined and I'm hoping you get a WD soon!
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by WillWait » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:38 pm
26 Days Thanks guys for your insightful replies and posts! I do keep learning there's more to this saga than initially meets the eye. On that note, an inquiry to you wise souls about the correlation between ejaculation, edging, and ![Blue :bow-blue:](./images/smilies/bow/blue.gif) depression. I'm reading about one the benefits of abstaining for a wet dream: helping cure depression. I feel good now, of course, but remember all too clearly my typical post-ejaculation ![Blue :bow-blue:](./images/smilies/bow/blue.gif) downer. It must be caused by the ejaculation (and/or even just edging) because I don't get depressed except after ejaculating. In fact, this can last for days, even a week or more after ejaculating. To keep this depression away, what would be an ideal maximum ejaculation frequency? Ideally this emission would be limited to wet dreams, I'd guess. If I keep "hands off," I assume my body won't let me have any more wet dreams than allowable without triggering the post-ejaculation blues. If I sometime decide in a particularly ![Mad :x](./images/smilies/angry/fire.gif) horny moment that my wet dreams ultimately have become way too infrequent, how often could I safely add a typical "manual" ejaculation to supplement the wet dreams? Once I "break the seal" ![Blue Sperm :obscene-sexualspermblue:](./images/smilies/obscene/sexualspermblue.gif) (make myself cum) I usually find that one manual ejaculation isn't nearly enough. As far as keeping depression away, after going as long as possible ![Cussing Black :angry-cussingblack:](./images/smilies/angry/cussingblack.gif) without ejaculating: what's the connection between depression and "just one" ejaculation vs. adding that 2nd or 3rd ejaculation so desperately craved by my body at that point? How many days after one's most recent ejaculation should symptoms of depression abate? Overall how many days/weeks abstaining from ejaculation might typically be required to conquer depression? What's the correlation between edging and depression, if any?
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by WillWait » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:01 am
34 Days! For best wet dream results it's not recommended, but I found myself doing some pretty intense edging the past 7 days or so. It seems like if one edges often enough and close enough to the absolute edge of ejaculating that the body eventually "gets the message" there will no ejaculating anytime soon--so best get with the wet dream program. As of June 26 or so I finally wasn't dying to cum any longer, despite having not masturbated to orgasm for 30 days. Just happy to have the awesome t-buzz. Then on June 29 my gal suddenly started lazily caressing me while we watched TV. She kept varying her massage, touching good "trigger" spots until I got too close, then switched to only the glans or only the balls--not enough to cum ![Cussing Black :angry-cussingblack:](./images/smilies/angry/cussingblack.gif) . (Touching ONLY the glans or ONLY the testicles is a good way to prevent ejaculation yet experience significant pleasure, I've read.) I totally enjoyed yet "ignored" her caresses as best I could, but after 45 min. or so it was purple, harder than hard, weeping precum. Yet feeling SO TOTALLY HARD was nice too, in a way. I was truly getting desperate to cum and had to reluctantly request that she stop all stimulation NOW, or...we need to take this to the next level. We hadn't actually had ejaculatory intercourse since May! I've waited long enough, haven't I? So I gave in. I entered her VERY slowly and moved in varying rhythms and fought very hard to withhold ejaculation to somehow last about 30 minutes. IT WAS INTENSE, to say the least. I'd strongly recommend that you wait at least 30 days between ejaculations because that one monthly (maximum of one orgasm per month) eruption is much better than having several per week. I gave in and spurted ![I'm Sorry! :text-imsorry:](./images/smilies/text/imsorry.gif) . Yes, the orgasm was volcanically intense ![Mad :x](./images/smilies/angry/fire.gif) and lasted for over a minute. I yelled so loud I feel sorry (or embarrassed) for my pretty, single next-door (separated by only a thin wall) neighbor in her 20s who unfortunately was home at the time. But I did limit myself to ONLY ONE ejaculation. Since I didn't cause it myself, I guess it doesn't count on the "last MB" tally. So hopefully I'm still on track for a wet dream, since I am making do with only that one cum--which didn't decrease my horniness level, BTW. Actually, I'm much hornier now than before cumming yesterday. Perhaps I'd be better off not cumming at all, since that ONE ejaculation seems to make me want to MB more, not less. Guys, I need help making sure I limit myself to only that one ejaculation of June 29 for as long as possible...
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by Bboy » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:22 pm
![Bravo :text-bravo:](./images/smilies/text/bravo.gif) you got 34 days we all need constant motivation to stop... and thats why we should motivate each other... lol
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by aficionado » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:23 pm
WillWait wrote:34 Days! I'd strongly recommend that you wait at least 30 days between ejaculations because that one monthly (maximum of one orgasm per month) eruption is much better than having several per week. I gave in and spurted ![I'm Sorry! :text-imsorry:](./images/smilies/text/imsorry.gif) . Yes, the orgasm was volcanically intense ![Mad :x](./images/smilies/angry/fire.gif) and lasted for over a minute. I yelled so loud I feel sorry (or embarrassed) for my pretty, single next-door (separated by only a thin wall) neighbor in her 20s who unfortunately was home at the time. But I did limit myself to ONLY ONE ejaculation. Since I didn't cause it myself, I guess it doesn't count on the "last MB" tally. So hopefully I'm still on track for a wet dream, since I am making do with only that one cum--which didn't decrease my horniness level, BTW. Actually, I'm much hornier now than before cumming yesterday. Perhaps I'd be better off not cumming at all, since that ONE ejaculation seems to make me want to MB more, not less. Guys, I need help making sure I limit myself to only that one ejaculation of June 29 for as long as possible...
I find that sex is way more intense when abstaining from MB - longer orgasm, more and stronger contractions, etc. I also find that I don't experience the "let down" after ejaculating during sex that I do after MB. Wonder if you experienced the same thing? I intend to continue to abstain from MB and see if I can still have WDs while having sex on an occasional basis. Since we are about the same age, I am interested in seeing what your experiences are if you continue to abstain from MB. Hopefully, you'll get a WD soon!
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by Texanguy » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:38 am
aficionado wrote:I find that sex is way more intense when abstaining from MB - longer orgasm, more and stronger contractions, etc. I also find that I don't experience the "let down" after ejaculating during sex that I do after MB.
WD's seem to have more in common with sex than with MB. According to some people a really good WD can be 'ideal sex' and even more intense than waking sex. It's interesting that some people say that you should MB in order to last longer during sex, but yours and others experiences seem to say that is not true. The question is why MB doesn't feel as intense, and I think that the answer must be that the brain/body somehow knows the difference at some deep level. Also, many people say that they ejaculate more semen in WD's than from MB. This might mean that the 'MB letdown' starts even before the ejaculation from MB is complete, and in fact cuts it short. i think all of this might indicate that the brain/body prefers that we don't waste it in MB, and rewards us for not doing it. I think throwing the option of MB completely out the window as obsolete and incapable of giving you what you want can not only make sex feel better, it would also likely increase the chances for WD's as well. Even for people not having sex, this is saying that it is impossible to match the experience and feelings with MB. You have to go to WD mode.
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by WillWait » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:22 am
I last masturbated all the way to ejaculation during the Memorial Day 2009 weekend! I feel fantastic because I'm embracing and enjoying all this sexual frustration, then redirecting the "urge" to much more important tasks.
Ejaculating never (or very very rarely ONLY during intercourse, never any other time) is really the best thing for me in all aspects. Failing to successfully resist ejaculation would be a huge mistake, rest assured. I'm noticing a correlation:
The less I masturbate, the less I want to masturbate. (It's a WANT, after all, not a need.) The less I ejaculate, the less I want to ejaculate. Never ejaculating is actually easier than very limited, rare ejaculation.
That being said, if you overcome the TEMPORARY desire, it gets much better and much easier!
Horniness levels go off the stratosphere FOR A DAY OR TWO or three for me after only ONE ejaculation. After that one ejaculation one's physiological and mental resistance is the weakest. The secret is not to to give in to the TEMPORARY overwhelming desire to "finish off" the remaining sexual frustration by having a 2nd or 3rd or 4th ejaculation. If you can just be strong and get past the first couple of days post-ejaculation, the desire really levels off to a pleasant buzz, very manageable and enjoyable. Trust me; you'll be glad you didn't waste any more precious semen in a brief moment of careless stupidity.
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by WillWait » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:27 am
aficionado wrote:WillWait wrote:34 Days! I'd strongly recommend that you wait at least 30 days between ejaculations because that one monthly (maximum of one orgasm per month) eruption is much better than having several per week. I gave in and spurted ![I'm Sorry! :text-imsorry:](./images/smilies/text/imsorry.gif) . Yes, the orgasm was volcanically intense ![Mad :x](./images/smilies/angry/fire.gif) and lasted for over a minute. I yelled so loud I feel sorry (or embarrassed) for my pretty, single next-door (separated by only a thin wall) neighbor in her 20s who unfortunately was home at the time. But I did limit myself to ONLY ONE ejaculation. Since I didn't cause it myself, I guess it doesn't count on the "last MB" tally. So hopefully I'm still on track for a wet dream, since I am making do with only that one cum--which didn't decrease my horniness level, BTW. Actually, I'm much hornier now than before cumming yesterday. Perhaps I'd be better off not cumming at all, since that ONE ejaculation seems to make me want to MB more, not less. Guys, I need help making sure I limit myself to only that one ejaculation of June 29 for as long as possible...
I find that sex is way more intense when abstaining from MB - longer orgasm, more and stronger contractions, etc. I also find that I don't experience the "let down" after ejaculating during sex that I do after MB. Wonder if you experienced the same thing? I intend to continue to abstain from MB and see if I can still have WDs while having sex on an occasional basis. Since we are about the same age, I am interested in seeing what your experiences are if you continue to abstain from MB. Hopefully, you'll get a WD soon!
Aficionado, Yes, I've also noticed that I don't experience any "let down" after ejaculating during sex, in contrast to the post-orgasm blues guaranteed after MB. I also read that guys also avoid the let down by limiting all ejaculating to wet dreams only. So it seems best one should never ejaculate during MB; only during wet dreams and/or intercourse.
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by Bboy » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:02 pm
well of course ur not gonna experience a let down because ur actually having sex rather than masturbating for a desire to have sex which is terrible lol
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by WillWait » Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:33 am
After 15 days without ejaculating, without any edging, in a weak moment I blasted a truly phenomenal many-spurt MB release on 10/06/09. Ejaculated only ONCE, despite strong desire for one or two more ejaculations to "fully drain" everything. Quitting cold turkey hadn't worked, so instead I planned to gradually phase out MB entirely because I feel so much better with a raging t-buzz and truly want to build up as much semen as possible until my body has no choice but to wet dream.
I haven't MB since 10/6, nor any edging. But...my date unexpectedly gave me a handjob on 10/11/09 that was the best I've ever experienced. Ejaculated only ONCE. Resisted very strong temptation for one more ejac. (I've always needed at least two ejaculations to feel satisfied, esp. after going a while with no release. Anyone else notice that just one ejac. doesn't seem to be sufficient?)
Now the past several days it feels like I'm trying to hold back a flood of semen. I'm getting so horny I can't stand it! Once I got past age 30 I thought my sexual desire is supposed to taper off... And I DREAD that huge letdown that kicks in about 5 minutes after ejaculating...
Maybe quitting cold turkey is better. These rare releases seem like overall they only increased my sexual frustration, even if they briefly gave me incredible pleasure.
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- Age: 43
- Number of wet dreams you've experienced: 1
- Circumcised or Uncut?: Circumcised (Cut)
- Precum Production: Lots of Precum (more than 4 drops before ejaculation)
- Average time to ejaculation normally: 45
- Underwear worn when going to sleep.: Briefs
- Have you ever had a spontaneous ejaculation?: yes
- If you've had a wet dream before, when did it occur after falling asleep?: 3-4 hours
- Date that you last had an ejaculation: 18 Nov 2012
- Sex: Male
by WillWait » Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:23 am
No ejac, no edging, since Oct. 27.
It feels like the danger of ejaculating is getting stronger, even though that is exactly what I DON'T want to do, nor am I doing any edging or any other activity to increase level of arousal. Nine days ago I last MB. Yes, it was glorious--for a full 5 seconds. After that, I felt like absolute CRAP for at least 5 days. Seriously I need to quit MB altogether, or ideally limit it to wet dreams only, and/or to a maximum of once every 8 weeks or something like that.
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WillWait
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- Posts: 40
- Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:13 am
- Location: NC
- Age: 43
- Number of wet dreams you've experienced: 1
- Circumcised or Uncut?: Circumcised (Cut)
- Precum Production: Lots of Precum (more than 4 drops before ejaculation)
- Average time to ejaculation normally: 45
- Underwear worn when going to sleep.: Briefs
- Have you ever had a spontaneous ejaculation?: yes
- If you've had a wet dream before, when did it occur after falling asleep?: 3-4 hours
- Date that you last had an ejaculation: 18 Nov 2012
- Sex: Male
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