Wet Dream Forum

OK, I thought I'd post my own thread here to record my progress as I'm (starting) to do good again. I had a thread before, but to begin with I noticed I spelled "Journal" like "Jounal," (ha ha) and it was getting long, so I thought I'd just start fresh!

Currently, I'm on Day 11 of no orgasm. I have to say it like that, because, frankly, I've edged almost every day. Twice, I noticed the next time I peed it was SUPER foamy, so I might have even had a little retrograde ejaculation, which kind of defeats the purpose. All which is to say, I've "technically" been good, but am not truthfully fully abstaining yet because of all the edging, so I am not exactly experiencing the horniness (sometimes the edging is more out of boredom or wanting to feel the "high" of MB, not so much actually being horny--which is sad), nor am I feeling really good about my self and uber-masculine like I was at the start of this run, or when I abstained for about 14 days in mid-July, because I was totally hand's off then, away on a trip, camping out w/other guys. (I tell you, if I had a roommate--a literal one, that I shared a room with--more than half of my battle over the temptation to MB would be won!)

Anyway, the realization that this "quasi" abstention, though still "better" than how I was before, is not helping me to achieve my goals is helping me firm my resolve to suck it up and try to be hands off for real. Part of being "manly" is mastering one's own passions, I believe, and so why wouldn't I want to achieve that, even for its own sake?

On other, affiliated, fronts, I have been basically porn-free since these 11 days, too, which IS a huge victory, thanks to a porn filter on my computer. It has been interesting, because there have been a few nights where I REALLY wanted to watch some porn clips, and I found myself looking up all of these possible search terms in hopes that I would find one that would evade the filter. Unfortunately, on day 8 I did find two short clips, so technically I blew it, but it wasn't much, and I haven't been successful since (thankfully). That protection has been a big comfort to me, and is helping me get through this "porn withdrawal" period.

I also have been more consistent with getting some exercise on about a 1 day on, 1 day off routine, whether that be going for a jog, or push-ups, pull-ups, crunches and curls. Now, if I'd only keep my hands off of my dingy for real, I will really have some good energy to workout more, and I expect the whole process to work together and fuel each other to greater health, self-image, and wet dreams!

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Current Day of Abstaining:3? (Upd8 3/29/2014)

Good luck Squeeze.

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squeeze -
i think you nailed it when you said you have to keep your hands off your "dingy." that's what works for me. edging doesn't do it. watching porn doesn't do it. keeping busy, exercising and refusing to give in and pay attention to the raging dick in your pants is what it takes. i go to sleep knowing that my mind once it's asleep is going to show me a good time and it does. so hang in there. i look forward to hearing more.

Thanks Brendan and Jr8 for the encouragement!

Yeah, "dingy" is what one of my buddies calls them and I think it's pretty funny.

Yeah, "Raging dick" works, too, though sometimes. Especially when I am abstaining *for real*
"Down boy, down!!" ha ha "Good dog..."

Yeah, OK, so I am on Day 12. Edged a little bit yesterday, but (thankfully) rather unsatisfying bec I couldn't even get a good erection. Like I said, I had been edging too much in the previous days. I think I need to be extra honest w/myself and call edging "masturbating," because it is! Just because I don't cum doesn't change anything about what I was doing up to that point. Edging sounds so innocent. For example, if a guy goes into a girl, he is still having sex whether he fires off or not, so... same here.

So basically, I need to stop masturbating. That being said, I have gone 12 days without an orgasm, so hopefully that will still help. But, yes, unless I am taking a piss or applying soap in a shower or scratching my nuts real quick--HANDS OFF, BUDDY!!!

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Current Day of Abstaining:3? (Upd8 3/29/2014)

All you need is a change of perspective Squeeze, you're mindset seems to be on the desire to quit but is blocked by the desire to orgasm, a wet dream will come, no worries, it took me a couple months to get back on track but for the time being you should focus on other things beside your need to 'release' or 'orgasm'

Think about the t-buzz, it feels pleasant but once it's 'satisfied' you loose that rush of sexual energy you get from abstaining. Orgasms' are the tip of the MB free lifestyle, it's like a bonus and nothing more, or less...and when it comes it should be cherished..., edging is still masturbation and you need to realize that you won't satisfy your needs by said means...so next time you get the t-buzz enjoy.

Learn from your mistakes and never give up

Thanks for the words, Corporal! Very true.

I do need to continue to reform my mindset. I don't think it's so much about getting an orgasm, or a WD even, for me as it is just wanting that pleasure that you get from MB. Hence the edging... but you are right in that a t-buzz is basically the same thing, well, better really, and it's guilt-free and can be a whole body/psyche buzz. It's such a paradox that we have to abstain from MB to feel really good in a physical/sexual sort of way, but then again most good things in life seem to be paradoxes! Thanks for the reality check, Corp., and the encouragement!

"edging is still masturbation and you need to realize that you won't satisfy your needs by said means" -- I need to post this somewhere--maybe on my signature if that's OK!

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Current Day of Abstaining:3? (Upd8 3/29/2014)

My current streak has ended: I masturbated to orgasm the night of the 12th and twice last night, the 13th. I think what did it is I somehow managed to find some porn (just some photos) -- "somehow managed" because I have a porn filter on my computer that works REALLY well. I was edging for a long time, and eventually gave in. Looking back at what led up to that, what I really did wrong was I spent too much time online late at night when I should have been sleeping! Had I not done that, I wouldn't have gotten to the porn. Last night, same scenario. At least now, though, those sites are blocked so I can't go back to them.

So that means that I went w/out an orgasm for 13 days this time, 14 days was my amount before, so at least I am "maintaining," which is better than where I was at. So now I am starting over and hope to last at least a month this time! In a sense I am glad I am starting over because this gives me a chance to go about it in a more "legitimate" way because as I've posted here before, I was edging waaaay too much during this last run of abstaining, and edging is still masturbating, so, I was really only abstaining from an orgasm, not from MB.

Two observations I did gain from my recent experiences (though not directly WD-related):

1. When you masturbate w/porn it can be less satisfying than w/out. It seems like when you look at porn, your thoughts and your pleasure are somehow removed from your body in a way where it seems like you don't feel it as much in the way that you do when you are not looking at it (assuming you are relaxed). I mean, masturbating can be a nurturing experience in a way, but when you are focused on porn, even that aspect is gone. Compare this w/Thursday's recent post about his WD where he was dreaming about the girl in the shower. Not only did he somehow feel what she was feeling in the dream, but he was also very self-aware, like when he describes how his balls pulled up close to his body and everything, and he felt a lot of pleasure and was left w/happy feelings afterward. Even though it was a dream, he was very "embodied" in a good way, whereas w/porn it can simply be a head trip more than anything.

2. Another guy here on a recent post (sorry, I'm blanking out on which guy it was) who has not MB'd in a while said how he "tested" himself by stroking himself a bit recently, and was surprised how it really wasn't all that exciting and he wondered how he used to get himself off that way. I had a similar experience during my time of abstinence before this (the 14 day period when I was on a trip), where I was totally hands-off, and on one of the last days I started to rub myself a bit in the shower. I had a strong boner but it really didn't feel that good at all! Like, I barely felt any pleasure, and I stoked w/some (peppermint!) soap on and everything. I only did this for like 15-20 seconds, but I was amazed that after all of that time being MB-free that it didn't feel amazing. It wasn't until I got back home and watched some porn that I MB'd all the way. And like this last time, even though I had abstained for a while, my orgasm really wasn't all that special, even though I had a lot of cum. This last time when I MB'd, it really wasn't until the 3rd time that my big O felt that great--and that was the only time I didn't look at porn! Go figure...

So, I'm not too upset, I'm just getting back on my program and I am also noticing that I haven't exercised these last couple of days, either! It seems like the two, for me, are opposing forces. (Exercise and MB) The battle between the spirit and the flesh. And it might seem odd to some that the spirit wants me to exercise my flesh--in a good way! "Flesh" in Scripture--in context--doesn't refer simply to your body but rather your sinful appetites that so often "wage war in our members." Starve one, and feed the other--that's the plan!

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Current Day of Abstaining:3? (Upd8 3/29/2014)

OK, the last time I masturbated was 4 days ago, so I am on day 3 of no MB. Last night (I was so surprised that it has only been that long), but I had a sexual dream, though not a WD. It has been a while since I've seen anything porn-like, maybe 2 weeks? so that could be the reason for it coming so soon. Anyway, it was in the morning right before I woke up. I don't remember too much of the "back story," but I remember this female alt country singer was in this shack place w/some other female, they might have been making a movie, I can't remember. They both had long skirts and long hair--had that sexy country look. But the other girl wanted the singer to either make out w/her or masturbate each other. They kind of playfully wrestled around a bit, but the singer girl didn't want to MB together. I remember being curious, but feeling wrong about it in my dream, so felt relieved in the dream they didn't actually do it. Then I panned to the other side of the room and another singer I know of, male, was there sitting in an empty bathtub w/some other dude there, and the singer pulled off his own boxer briefs real quick and said "Yeah, that's right!" as his huge boner popped up. (ha ha) Actually, I think I was filming the movie--I had the camera. I remember wanting to go back and pause that scene to see exactly how big his penis was, since I wanted to compare it to mine, to see if his was bigger or not. (A bit of insecurity, I guess) I understood in my dream that the other guy was somehow going to MB w/the singer dude, like the girls, but I woke up before they did anything, so I didn't have time to "process" that. SO two potential same-sex MB scenarios that both got shut down in my cinematic country-singer dream. STRANGE!

But today, I feel good, almost like a t-buzz but not that strong, though I noticed that my penis feels a little more sensitive to the touch than normal (in a good way!), so I've got to stay strong and hands-off, though my desire to fully MB is low. I just gotta make sure I don't edge-cuz I started to, then I decided I'd write this to encourage myself to not do that, to enjoy my good, masculine, "clean" feelings, and to share my dream w/you guys.

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Current Day of Abstaining:3? (Upd8 3/29/2014)

Cool, I am at the end of day 5 here. A little bit of edging the last two days (but not today), but not too bad. I never got too close to ejaculation, but I shouldn't have done it nonetheless. But I am at the beginning of this round, so I guess I had to wean myself off a bit. It was cool though, in that my penis seemed much more sensitive than normal, which recently I have realized correlates with how long it has been since I've last MB'd. The longer I go, the more sensitive it gets (in a good way). Anyone else had this happen? [Though this is the opposite of what I experienced during my last long period of abstinence when my penis wasn't very sensitive at all when I started to masturbate (mentioned two posts ago), so maybe there are other factors involved? I dunno]

I have been a little more horny than normal these past two days, but off-an-on, like maybe twice in a day; otherwise, I am pretty mellow. I have noticed perhaps a bit of "fullness" in my prostrate area, but not bad. I am just more aware of it somehow. Have been really stressed at work these last two days, especially today, but not related to my abstaining. I have to work again tomorrow, I just hope it is more mellow--too much stress isn't good for you on any level! It raises your cortisol levels, and you don't want them raised for too long. Hopefully, I will be getting some other part time work soon as a substitute teacher. I am excited about that, and good feelings/positive attitude generally make it easier to abstain for me, and I am more enthused to exercise, eat right, etc., too, which all works together for the best!

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Current Day of Abstaining:3? (Upd8 3/29/2014)

OK, I've masturbated several days in a row , and I am currently on a day and 1/2 now of no MB, and I am REALLY horny. OK, a bit better now that I have gotten my mind sorta off of it, but feeling physically hornier this evening than I have in a long time. Probably because my body has gotten used to daily masturbation, and once you say "no!" to something, you want it all the more, just like a little kid. So no more childishness! I am going to be a man and tell my inner brat to shut up, take it like a man, and endure through the sometimes powerful desire to MB! Or it will get a spanking, ha ha. He will get a reward (WD) if he behaves long enough...

I think I will go for a jog now to try to dispel some of this horniness, since I have some left still, and I don't want to go to bed like this or I know what will happen. NO MORE MB, LITTLE MAN!! I MEAN IT!! ha ha

So, I will post here tomorrow to report

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Current Day of Abstaining:3? (Upd8 3/29/2014)

OK. I didn't want to report after my big "pump myself up, no more BS" kind of post, but I have to. (Tail between legs...) I masturbated late last night. I was writing stuff and never got around to jog because when I was ready to go I looked and it was 11:30pm so I thought it was too late because I live in a residential neighborhood, and I didn't want people to think I was a criminal or something! So I went to bed, oh, but I did do some push-ups and crunches. So I went to bed and felt pretty good, was a little horny, but OK, and after about 15 minutes I thought I would sleep nude like so many guys here do, so I pulled off my underwear, but I had lustful thoughts in my head, and I started to feel myself a bit, and one thing led to another. Man. WHY does masturbation have to feel so good?!?!?! IF it didn't we'd be set! Plus, I was then able to go to sleep, so I didn't have to worry about the post-MB "let down" like I would if it was daytime. Maybe that's why so many guys MB at that time--right before bed.

Man, I think I need to adjust my mental angle a bit from what I wrote last night from just "enduring" the horniness like a good soldier as my primary immediate goal, to developing self-control (in an of itself) as the primary goal. This will be broader, and include not edging or pleasurably touching my "man bits" at all. If I just think "don't MB," I can justify edging too easily. I will have to endure much (especially since I then MBd so soon since the last time (just short of 2 days), so my body will still be very "used" to a regular MB release, so I can expect to be VERY horny I think tomorrow. Man, I've really set myself up this time. I will have to tie my hands up or something, haha.

AAARGH--I've got to beat this thing!! (wow, hahah, beat masturbation that is, haha lol)

**SELF-CONTROL** is the mantra (I want to have Van Buskirk's self-control w/out his anxiety and misinformation about WDs! That would be awesome.)

Proverbs 23:7 -- "As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he" ~~ I need to convince myself that I am more of a stud and ultimately, will be more sexually fulfilled if I don't masturbate

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Current Day of Abstaining:3? (Upd8 3/29/2014)

Why does cocaine feel so good? Why does Heroin feel so good?

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Can't conceal what I feel
What I know is real
No mistaking the faking
I care
With a prayer in the air
I will leave it there
On a note full of hope
Not despair

OK, me and another guy here have been PMing ea other and decided to be abstaining buddies, to encourage each other! The last time we both mb'd was on different days, so to make it even we decided to both do it last night (since it is sort of a contest), and so now we are starting afresh on the same page! We talked a lot, and we seem to click, so i think we will be able to encourage each other a lot. I think our unofficial first goal is 25 days (that would be ideal)--so, wish us luck! And i'll update you guys on my progress.

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Current Day of Abstaining:3? (Upd8 3/29/2014)

Squeeze you are in the same boat as Jr8fan. Both of you give up for a few days and then MB. This isn't even real abstinence - I did this back in my teens quite a lot. You need to make a fundamental change to your approach if you're going to progress.

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Can't conceal what I feel
What I know is real
No mistaking the faking
I care
With a prayer in the air
I will leave it there
On a note full of hope
Not despair

I'm on Day 5 of abstaining, boys! Woot woot! I am abstaining now along w/2 guys who are keeping me accountable on a daily basis (sometimes twice a day), which is helping a lot. So far, so good. No pain or discomfort. As of 2 days ago, I have definitely been feeling some T-Buzz, which is pretty early on in the process for me. Feeling confident, "manly," and pleasantly horny, but in a really good way. Like more of a good, tingly feeling w/in me than lusting or something like that. I've been exercising almost daily, which is another victory! Now, keeping this up will be the challenge! Day 5 is when I last blew it, but I know I can go longer w/out too much difficulty, bec I have not too long ago. But my new accountability network should help bring me a lot farther along before I really start to battle.

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Current Day of Abstaining:3? (Upd8 3/29/2014)

Good luck. I am at day 16 and intend to persue until i get my first wd at 45-60 days range according to this site.

Your profile says you had 8 wd ...are they recent...any recollection as to explain if it was better than MB.

Alright...Squeeze please and try to make this your last slip up...your mindset is still set on the idea that...
"you think masturbation feels good, but you need to abstain to get a wet dream...even though it feels soooo good".

The correct mindset you need to focus on would be to think of abstainence as a lifestyle, heck you don't even need to consider straying from MB as abstainence but as a type of pleasure. I'm counting on you not to slip up.

So think this.

"Im am choosing this lifestyle because it is beneficial to my health and to myself as a person, this lifestlye is also more pleasurable and satisfactory"

Corp. Brian could you explain to someone like me who never experience a wd how abstinence is a more pleasurable feeling even in between wd and does it get better in time. Also is it reasonnable to expect 3 wd per month in average once a wd cycle begins even at my age and considering that i never did have a wd?

I'm sure that Corporal Brian means enjoying the t-buzz, lack of post-MB letdowns, increased energy, sense of control, ability to feel arousal over your whole body without always getting an erection, WD's, etc.

MB isn't necessary, some guys never start in the first place. It is built in to be able to separate sexuality from MB, and for it to feel better than the addiction to the MB-cycle of quick ups and long downs when you do. Why do WD's exist? Why can you ejaculate more semen in a WD than in MB? Why can you have a more intense and longer lasting orgasm in a WD and still feel aroused afterwards? It must be built in to our brains and genetics. Addiction to MB actually appears to limit expresssion and enjoyment of sexuality.

Thanks for the reply texanguy. This is really encouraging to continue breaking the mb habit. This is the kind of info needed for guys like me and other members to be winners in our quest for the wd lifestyle. Positive comments from an experience member like you will achieve and help members alot more than bashing and excessive smart remarks which only induce discouragement. Thanks a million!!!!!!

Well, I'm on Day five again by the time people are probably reading this (Fri.) Looking at my personal log on my computer, Day 5 & 6 are when I tended to give in, so if I am in a pattern at all w/that, these will be my two big days to fight. Time to put my crap-kicker boots on!

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Current Day of Abstaining:3? (Upd8 3/29/2014)

Day 6; so far, so good! I feel REALLY good today. Very alive, very "masculine," quite content w/no MB.

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Current Day of Abstaining:3? (Upd8 3/29/2014)

Day 9: I feel good. I was in sort of a "dormant" phase where I felt 0 horniness for about 3 days, and then yesterday, the feelings came back. Had more of a "full" feeling in my nuts, but not right now. I will be really busy the next 3 days which will help keep me "honest." My desire to abstain is greater than my desire to MB right now (by a lot), but I can't let my guard down, and say, start to edge, even for a bit.

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Current Day of Abstaining:3? (Upd8 3/29/2014)

Day 10

Well, I had two close calls last night, one good and one bad.

Bad news first. I started to MB last night bef I went to bed, and had a close call in the sense that I could tell I was about to bust my nut, but then I stopped and was like, "Man, I need to stop! I can't be doing this." SO, thankfully, I was able to.

Ok, good--went to sleep and then had a dream in the middle of the night where I was in a college bookstore, nothing sexual or anything, and then the next thing I know (I guess I was in a relatively private place, I hope so, ha ha) but then I started to MB. I don't remember feeling any sexual/pleasurable feelings, like in a WD, even though in my dream I was MBing. After a very short time, I felt like I was going to blow my load, and I thought to myself, "No! NO! I can't do this. I can't masturbate! I will be so disappointed." And so I stopped (almost like what happened in real life before I went to sleep!). Then I immediately woke up and for a brief second for some reason I thought I had actually masturbated (all the way) and felt disappointed w/myself, but then I started to realize, no, it was just a dream, and so I slipped my hand down into my shorts to check and felt that it was completely dry so that confirmed that it was just a dream, and I felt relieved. Then, as soon as I realized that (all of this happened in a matter of seconds), I then realized I had to pee REALLY bad! Not, just, "Oh, I need to pee soon," but "I need to go and pee this second or my bladder will explode!" ha ha So, I got up and went to the bathroom, and then back to bed. I remember having two more dreams that night, and I think the first of these two was somehow sexual, I think I remember touching a woman's "area" down there a bit, but not really part of a story or anything, just kind of a random thing, like the MB in my first dream, but the third dream I had last night I know wasn't sexual at all, but I've since forgotten the contents of it.

Anyway, this leaves me with a question that may go unanswered: Did my having to pee really bad trigger my MB dream because of all the pressure in that area? Or did I have a sexual dream that could have turned into a WD if only my bladder wasn't so full?

"Inquiring minds want to know" -- ha ha, the old National Enquirer slogan

The encouraging thing for me is that with these (one or two) dreams and the pirate wench one from about 5 days ago, is that my mind is starting to look for its sexual outlet through my dream life. 'Cause normally, if I am masturbating regularly, I will almost never have sexually-themed dreams. Hardly at all. It's pretty much only when I am abstaining that I start to get them. And it seems from many other guy's experiences here that they will get a few "non-productive" sexual dreams before the "main event" comes. So, hopefully, my body is moving towards that!

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Current Day of Abstaining:3? (Upd8 3/29/2014)

Reset clock: Day 1

I'm going to be honest and this this over with. I ended up blowing it yesterday afternoon. I had access to another computer in my house that doesn't have an internet filter, and I ended up masturbating. I wasn't too horny otherwise that day, so it was sucky: 1.) bec had I not looked at the porn clips it would have been doubtful that I would have MB'd., and 2.) bec of my previous post where I describe the two recent sexual dreams I had, which could mean that I was getting close to a WD! A lot came out when I MB'd, sure, but it really wasn't anything special, pleasure-wise. A WD would have felt better! (Let this be a reminder to those who are tempted to give in!)

This shows me that for me, porn is probably the bigger addiction than MB, and I thought it was the other way around. So I really need to guard myself against any access to it, and I will have greater success.

Back to my first day! I feel positive, though, I made it to day 10 w/out too much struggle (thanks to a couple of friends who are keeping me accountable daily!) and at least I doubled my length of abstinence time since my last MB, which was after 5 days of abstinence. I need to go at least 15 days this time. For me, when I set the goal too far ahead, I am more likely to give up. Once I get close to 15 days, I will reassess my next tangible goal.

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Current Day of Abstaining:3? (Upd8 3/29/2014)

yeah. focus on the fact that you made it 10 days. forget about the guilt and how you ended your abstinence. matter of fact, may as well celebrate now that you made it ten days!
when climbing a mountain it is not all uphill, there are little dips and valleys.

A good initial target is 14 days. From day 15+ your prolactin level will normalise.

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Can't conceal what I feel
What I know is real
No mistaking the faking
I care
With a prayer in the air
I will leave it there
On a note full of hope
Not despair

Learn for the mistakes

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Thanks, Abdul!

Yeah, I'm on day 6, so one day away from a week. Feeling horny again, but that is typical around this time in abstaining for me, and not a bad thing. U just need to keep my hands where they should be and not wander on down the happy trail, haha

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Current Day of Abstaining:3? (Upd8 3/29/2014)

Yaay! i'm on day 8, so just over a week. Nothing too special to report. I was pretty darn horny yesterday, but even so, I am finding it a lot easier to resist MB.

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