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 Post subject: Thinking off
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:00 pm 
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I'm interested in thinking off. It's a phrase used to think yourself to an orgasm without any other stimulation. I have heard that its possible, but yet have been able to do it.

I was wondering if any males or females on this forum have been able to achieve this? If so I would like to hear about it, and find out how I or other members who might be interested in this could accomplish it. This is something I won't give up on.

There's a lot of questions on this subject that I have. The more feedback the better. I have never had a wd or se.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:00 am 
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I'm interested in thinking off. It's a phrase used to think yourself to an orgasm without any other stimulation. I have heard that its possible, but yet have been able to do it.

I was wondering if any males or females on this forum have been able to achieve this? If so I would like to hear about it, and find out how I or other members who might be interested in this could accomplish it. This is something I won't give up on.

There's a lot of questions on this subject that I have. The more feedback the better. I have never had a wd or se.



I think another term for it is a "hands free".


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking off
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:02 am 
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I have never had a 'hands free' orgasm or 'mind orgasm' as some like to call it but one time I was very close to one. I was listening to an erotic femdom hypnosis sesson (called satin angels 1 &2 - especially 2 is good) and became extremely horny. At the point were I was supposed to have my orgasm I felt a sort of contraction but didnt ejaculate. I have never been able to come even close to that feeling with just my own mind and fantasies.

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 Post subject: Re: Thinking off
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:02 pm 
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I can get very close, but my body tends to jerk or spasm just before I cum and that startles me out of the zone sexually. I do believe it is possible, simply a matter of getting the right brain cells to fire. A hands-free orgasm is basically a WD while awake. And I had a waking, no-touch orgasm once without even trying, so I'm sure if I keep working at it I'll be able to do it on purpose.

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 Post subject: Re: Thinking off
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I have tried but usually get relaxed and fall asleep - no go for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking off
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:06 am 
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I had an amazing experience, and might be hard to put into words. The night started off like so many others had before. I took a Viagra before bed, it makes it easier to stay hard and I find that the increased blood flow and the stiffness helps. I was lying in bed and just started to think about how good it would feel to rub my hands up and down a woman's leg. I just kept playing that over and over in my head. Rubbing up and down her thigh feeling her calf's I was just getting so turned on, I thought to myself this is it! Tonight is the night I can do this. I was in a great frame of mind, I was hard and my dick was pulsating. The deeper I got into the moment the compulsions I guess I'll call it got pretty intense. I was dripping with pre cum and my body was com pulsing. I was losing control of myself everything felt overly sensitive. I have felt things I've never experienced before. I felt moments from cumming and just before I could, I heard a noise that startled me and lost it. I then tried to get my mind back into the moment as thoughts were still in my head I was almost able to bringing myself back to the same point of near orgasm. I couldn't quite get there. Being extremely sexually frustrated I grabbed my dick and squeezed it and that's all it took before I was shooting rope after rope of cum.

I will continue trying, even though that was very close I still had to touch myself to cum even though it was just a slight touch. I want to continue till my mind can do this with even less effort. I believe it's just mind over matter.


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking off
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:29 am 
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I had an amazing experience, and might be hard to put into words. The night started off like so many others had before. I took a Viagra before bed, it makes it easier to stay hard and I find that the increased blood flow and the stiffness helps. I was lying in bed and just started to think about how good it would feel to rub my hands up and down a woman's leg. I just kept playing that over and over in my head. Rubbing up and down her thigh feeling her calf's I was just getting so turned on, I thought to myself this is it! Tonight is the night I can do this. I was in a great frame of mind, I was hard and my dick was pulsating. The deeper I got into the moment the compulsions I guess I'll call it got pretty intense. I was dripping with pre cum and my body was com pulsing. I was losing control of myself everything felt overly sensitive. I have felt things I've never experienced before. I felt moments from cumming and just before I could, I heard a noise that startled me and lost it. I then tried to get my mind back into the moment as thoughts were still in my head I was almost able to bringing myself back to the same point of near orgasm. I couldn't quite get there. Being extremely sexually frustrated I grabbed my dick and squeezed it and that's all it took before I was shooting rope after rope of cum.

I will continue trying, even though that was very close I still had to touch myself to cum even though it was just a slight touch. I want to continue till my mind can do this with even less effort. I believe it's just mind over matter.

I assume you were ABing at the time? How many days for?

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 Post subject: Re: Thinking off
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:08 pm 
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Yes I was Abing. I went 20 days.


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking off
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:46 pm 
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Thank you for sharing your experience, Micheal. I don't think that I could ever "think off." My mind tends to wander too much. So more power to you, buddy.

I wish you the best of luck reaching your goal!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:53 pm 
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Awesome! :text-bravo: Too bad about the noise interrupting you, but this gives me hope that I may get there, too. You were completely AB, no edging, right?

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Right no edging that time, but I think I'm going to edge some this time.


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking off
PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:47 pm 
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hahaha, thinking off, thats a good one. never heard that one b4.

anyway, i can think off, what would u like to know?

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hahaha, thinking off, thats a good one. never heard that one b4.

anyway, i can think off, what would u like to know?



Everything! lol How exactly do you do it? What position are you in? Do you touch any part of your body at all? What clothes (if any) do you wear? What do you think about? How long does it take? How long do you have to AB for before you can think off? Am I asking too many questions? :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Thinking off
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hahaha, thinking off, thats a good one. never heard that one b4.

anyway, i can think off, what would u like to know?



Everything! lol How exactly do you do it? What position are you in? Do you touch any part of your body at all? What clothes (if any) do you wear? What do you think about? How long does it take? How long do you have to AB for before you can think off? Am I asking too many questions? :lol:


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Everything! lol How exactly do you do it? What position are you in? Do you touch any part of your body at all? What clothes (if any) do you wear? What do you think about? How long does it take? How long do you have to AB for before you can think off? Am I asking too many questions? :lol:


haha ok, ill try and explain how i do it. i can only do it after several days AB. if im jerking regular then i cant do it. i will get literally right at the point of no return but all that happens is my penis will throb like crazy and i will shoot a bit of precum but i cant get a full orgasm. so if i wait about 5 to 7 days after i start ab im almost always successful. when i do it i am usually completely naked and lying on my back in bed. i never touch anything during the entire process, well sometimes i lightly touch my nipples but never touch my penis or allow anything like underwear, blankets etc to touch my penis. i prefer doing it late at night or early in the morning so i dont get interrupted. it requires really intense concentration and interruptions and loud noises usually ruin it for me. i sometimes watch some porn but usually just think about having sex with my gf. anything that really turns u on will work but u need to concentrate on it real hard and dont let other thoughts mess with your mind. the time it takes varies depending on how horny i was when i started. i would say 15-20 minutes minimum if im super uber horny. if im not that horny to start off then it can take an hour or two. while im concentrating it will sometimes build up once or twice to orgasm and sometimes not quite make it to orgasm but if u keep concentrating it will build up again and usually will be stronger the second time and it will be enough to put me over the edge. kinda hard to explain but the horniness comes in waves. it will build up then often subside for a few minutes then it will build up again. anyone who edges probably will understand what im saying. anyway if anyone has any questions or wants me to explain it again let me know cuz i know im not that good at explaining things.

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Oh, very interesting thread!

This is something like the Zen of Orgasming, doing it awake, voluntarily and touch-free. I like the idea. Some weekend when I have more free time than in a normal day, if I'm in the mood I may try it. I guess it's going to take a lot of trying to get results, if ever.


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I have thought off a few times. I don't do it much anymore. But I can give you some tips. One is I found ashwagandha an herb makes that is great for sex. It's calming yet it's very good at helping the sex drive. I found that stuff to be great for my sex drive. I highly recommend you buy it. It's good for womens sex drive too. I have done it different ways. One way was done by breathing a certain way with a blindfold on in the dark and using my imaginations. But the one way that I found was very very effective was to use ashwagandha and focus my mind. It was like I found this sweet spot in my mind. That was about in the middle of my head. And I could focus my mind a certain way and put real pressure on this spot and and was flooding my body with hormones and neurotransmitters and all that I had. When I eventually came, it was the biggest release I have probably had in my life. It blew my mind. I didn't even use any porn at all. And I am a guy, which supposedly it's suppose to be harder for guys to do this. But please note that I take sleeping medicines that increase serotonin and probably messes with the dopamine system. Please don't take any sleeping medicines long term. Anyway, the ashwagandha is number one on my list for helping one think off or just having a healthy sex drive.

Let me also share why I think thinking off if far superior to masturbating alone. I think if one can think off, this is much more healthy for the body, by releasing all the bodies needed molecules for sex it makes it the most natural way to orgasm IMO. IMO many guys damage their penises fine feelings by masturbating too much or too hard. I think this can be fixed by thinking off, since the body makes all the molecules needed for not only sex but recovering the nerves of not only the body, but the penis too. Though I know guys will take more practice than women to do it. But I think that can be overcome by using herbs and medicine of different sorts. Even certain psychedelics are probably good for this.

Edit: In further proving my above point. I think that when guys learn to not only have most of the pleasure not only in their penis but throughout the whole body, and especially in the brain, that this is what helps release the best molecules for protecting not only the penis but the whole body. If orgasm is all in the lower extremities then it does not reach the hypothalamus very well. Thus many of sexes best molecules are never released. The reason why is that the hypothalamus is the master gland. So once the brain is actually having sex, then this is what really makes for good orgasm and even love.

You can buy ashwagandha at http://www.herbalcom.com use the whole url. They sell it in bulk for a very low price. If your really sensitive to taste, you can put the powder into a capsule with cap m quick. BTW I have not financial association with http://www.herbalcom.com or cap m quick.

Good luck.


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Zach wrote:
hahaha, thinking off, thats a good one. never heard that one b4.

anyway, i can think off, what would u like to know?



Everything! lol How exactly do you do it? What position are you in? Do you touch any part of your body at all? What clothes (if any) do you wear? What do you think about? How long does it take? How long do you have to AB for before you can think off? Am I asking too many questions? :lol:


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Everything! lol How exactly do you do it? What position are you in? Do you touch any part of your body at all? What clothes (if any) do you wear? What do you think about? How long does it take? How long do you have to AB for before you can think off? Am I asking too many questions? :lol:


haha ok, ill try and explain how i do it. i can only do it after several days AB. if im jerking regular then i cant do it. i will get literally right at the point of no return but all that happens is my penis will throb like crazy and i will shoot a bit of precum but i cant get a full orgasm. so if i wait about 5 to 7 days after i start ab im almost always successful. when i do it i am usually completely naked and lying on my back in bed. i never touch anything during the entire process, well sometimes i lightly touch my nipples but never touch my penis or allow anything like underwear, blankets etc to touch my penis. i prefer doing it late at night or early in the morning so i dont get interrupted. it requires really intense concentration and interruptions and loud noises usually ruin it for me. i sometimes watch some porn but usually just think about having sex with my gf. anything that really turns u on will work but u need to concentrate on it real hard and dont let other thoughts mess with your mind. the time it takes varies depending on how horny i was when i started. i would say 15-20 minutes minimum if im super uber horny. if im not that horny to start off then it can take an hour or two. while im concentrating it will sometimes build up once or twice to orgasm and sometimes not quite make it to orgasm but if u keep concentrating it will build up again and usually will be stronger the second time and it will be enough to put me over the edge. kinda hard to explain but the horniness comes in waves. it will build up then often subside for a few minutes then it will build up again. anyone who edges probably will understand what im saying. anyway if anyone has any questions or wants me to explain it again let me know cuz i know im not that good at explaining things.


Zach, when you "think off" is there more cum than a usual MB?
And I'm pretty sure I've gotten to the point of no return by accident at least twice, but I've never cum

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definately not more, i would say about the same or maybe a bit less if anything. thinking off is cool sometimes but once i start having orgasm it tapers off quicker than if im MBing. im kinda a hands on guy meaning once i start i cant stop and i keep going until im completely done cuming. i dont have a clue how people stop strokin while they are cuming cuz i cant stop at all or i just stop cuming and the feeling goes away quickly but if i keep going the intense feeling keeps going for several seconds. so i dont think off that much.

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Yeah, I'm like that too, have to keep rubbing thru the entire orgasm or it stops, always wondered about ppl who take their hand away as soon as they start cumming. Although sometimes if I take me hand away at just the right point after I've started cumming, it'll keep going for a couple seconds and it can be kinda cool, almost similar to a WD feeling the contractions without anything touching me. But more often it's just frustrating.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:32 pm 
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I had experiences of edging (could easily have cum but stopped myself, in fact once almost lost it!) without touching anything inside my labia, not sure if that really counts, since it is so close. At 8 days AB, I'm sensitive enough to reach orgasm by rubbing myself anywhere from my outer labia up to my belly-button. It's a cool feeling, similar to a WD, but not sure it really counts as hands-free, though if I could cum with just nipple stimluation i'd count that as hands-free. Do you all think it ocunts?

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 Post subject: Re: Thinking off
PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:04 pm 
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I had experiences of edging (could easily have cum but stopped myself, in fact once almost lost it!) without touching anything inside my labia, not sure if that really counts, since it is so close. At 8 days AB, I'm sensitive enough to reach orgasm by rubbing myself anywhere from my outer labia up to my belly-button. It's a cool feeling, similar to a WD, but not sure it really counts as hands-free, though if I could cum with just nipple stimluation i'd count that as hands-free. Do you all think it ocunts?

Generally speaking it's much easier for women to edge on an ejaculation than men. This is known well in Tantra. I can imagine that some men would exaggerate on how long they can last. That is dependent more on orgasm than ejaculation though. Luckily we have tools now for couples and singles to increase orgasm time. And no orgasm, is different than ejaculation. Two separate brain regions, two separate functions. The key for edging in increasing the biological psychological factors that increase orgasm IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: Thinking off
PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:39 pm 
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I firmly believe that sex/orgasms are mostly achieved by what the brain takes in as stimulation. I have been able to achieve handsfree orgasms for most of my adult life. Sometimes, added friction of underwear helps. There is a muscle (forget what it's called) below the scrotum that with practice can help stop or induce ejaculation, though I have only recently known about it but with hind sight realized that my mind knew it was there and has played a part in achieving handsfree orgasms. Edging does help. Sometimes I need to edge for a couple of days to get to the point of handsfree. AB for several days though is the best technique for me. I find that hands free gives me a longer orgasm and produces a larger volume of semen, where the orgasm begins after the first couple of streams/shots of semen.


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I firmly believe that sex/orgasms are mostly achieved by what the brain takes in as stimulation. I have been able to achieve handsfree orgasms for most of my adult life. Sometimes, added friction of underwear helps. There is a muscle (forget what it's called) below the scrotum that with practice can help stop or induce ejaculation, though I have only recently known about it but with hind sight realized that my mind knew it was there and has played a part in achieving handsfree orgasms. Edging does help. Sometimes I need to edge for a couple of days to get to the point of handsfree. AB for several days though is the best technique for me. I find that hands free gives me a longer orgasm and produces a larger volume of semen, where the orgasm begins after the first couple of streams/shots of semen.

The muscle your talking about is the perineum. I have not used that muscle too much. But I have heard that one can and should exercise it in both men and women to achieve better sex or masturbation. Women can do it to increase vaginal tightness and pleasure. Men can do it to increase orgasm time, and more semen, and more stronger ejaculation. From what I heard if a man exercises the perineum that they can learn to orgasm inwardly by squeezing the perineum as tight as they can. It takes practice. I would think that it should work similarly for women. And if one is sensitive then it's best to stop stimulation I would think at time of edging. I have not practiced it for medical reasons, but I wold be the first to practice it if I didn't have that medical problem.

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gapman99 wrote:
I firmly believe that sex/orgasms are mostly achieved by what the brain takes in as stimulation. I have been able to achieve handsfree orgasms for most of my adult life. Sometimes, added friction of underwear helps. There is a muscle (forget what it's called) below the scrotum that with practice can help stop or induce ejaculation, though I have only recently known about it but with hind sight realized that my mind knew it was there and has played a part in achieving handsfree orgasms. Edging does help. Sometimes I need to edge for a couple of days to get to the point of handsfree. AB for several days though is the best technique for me. I find that hands free gives me a longer orgasm and produces a larger volume of semen, where the orgasm begins after the first couple of streams/shots of semen.

The muscle your talking about is the perineum. I have not used that muscle too much. But I have heard that one can and should exercise it in both men and women to achieve better sex or masturbation. Women can do it to increase vaginal tightness and pleasure. Men can do it to increase orgasm time, and more semen, and more stronger ejaculation. From what I heard if a man exercises the perineum that they can learn to orgasm inwardly by squeezing the perineum as tight as they can. It takes practice. I would think that it should work similarly for women. And if one is sensitive then it's best to stop stimulation I would think at time of edging. I have not practiced it for medical reasons, but I wold be the first to practice it if I didn't have that medical problem.

Since thinking off seems to be more about orgasm than ejaculation I would think that doing such exercises would help in thinking off.

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I've almost "thinked off" a few times. Sometimes, I watch porn and I'm so horny that I get so hard quickly, that I almost ejaculate. Doing this lead me to having SE's instead of saving my cum for a WD when I gave up MB for Lent. A few times, I wanted to ejaculate without touching my cock, but the feeling got too intense and I had to stroke until I ejaculated.


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Look up dermatome map and see how the sacra land lumbar nerves are connected to the genitals.

Amazing orgasms may be achieved by massaging muscles connected to any shared map areas.

Specifically, the IT-band, gently rubbing with the tips of fingers or scratching lightly with the nail. There is a onetouchorgasm resource on Scribd that shows how pressing
at the junction of the lateral 1/3 and the medial 2/3s of the distance from the greater Trachanter of the femur to the hiatus of the sacrum is a sweet spot.

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InterestedGirl wrote:
though if I could cum with just nipple stimluation i'd count that as hands-free. Do you all think it ocunts?

For a guy, nipple stimulation to climax (which I at least can do) is as much MB as directly playing with one's dick.

Having made it through November without MB, I found that throughout early December I could not even get an erection. As the month progressed I got a bit more desperate, and eventually used a bit of nipple play to help it along - successfully. Eventually normal erections returned and twice recently (December 26 and 30) I have been able to "think off", reaching climax by pleasant thoughts alone without any physical stimulation being required.

No WD yet but surely now that can't be long delayed.


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I don't think this is possible, though I wish it was.
Sometimes I just entertain sexy thoughts or stare a girls arse entertaining sexy thoughts hoping that the mental stimulation will make me ejaculate in my underwear.....but it has never happened. makes me believe its not possible.

If anyone has a sure shot method to achieve this let me know.


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kevin wrote:
I don't think this is possible, though I wish it was.
Sometimes I just entertain sexy thoughts or stare a girls arse entertaining sexy thoughts hoping that the mental stimulation will make me ejaculate in my underwear.....but it has never happened. makes me believe its not possible.

If anyone has a sure shot method to achieve this let me know.
I don't know of a sure fire shot way of doing it. But just taking Aphrodisiacs I am darn sure would increase your chances. I personally can attest to ashwagandha being one of the most powerful Aphrodisiacs. I've never tried Viagra. You can even take a combination. Some psychedelics can be great Aphrodisiacs.

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I would like to try and get this thread going again. I've begun Abing again, and would love to have an orgasm without touching myself. A chastity device has been ordered and should arrive shortly.


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