Any suggestion to have SE - Spontaneous ejaculation?

[sajai]

I saw many porn clips that they can ejaculate without touching any part of their body. How can they do that?
If I want to do like that, what should I do?

[smilingibis]

It seems to work for me by getting an erection and focusing on its intensity while thinking particularly "dirty" turn-on thoughts. Tense and relax the penis off and on to make your erection as stiff and hard as you can. This sets up a thrusting-like action similar to regular intercourse, only without your penis being in someone. Sometimes it helps if my balls are between my legs, since this makes the penis strain against minor resistance to get to its normal angle.
It's kind of a personal adjustment to figure out just how fast/slow the clenching should be, so you'll have to experiment with this.
I've had success with this both with and without porn and have done it sometimes twice in one day, even at age 50. The ejaculations are pretty intense and, I think, far more satisfying than those I got from manual stimulation, probably because the clenching works the area of the prostate far more than the tip of the penis.
Have fun!

[relover89]

I have done something like this

as recent as saturday 7/27/13 after 5 days not mb and ab

(but then I later got hard again and mb to ej)

I am naked in bed, let my penis get REALLY hard while laying on my back and then thrust my penis up and down with my pelvic muscles....making it get harder and harder

until it gets so hard I have to cum....

but its more of a precum ejactulation than a SE....

meaning it isnt as sticky and there isnt any smell ( my precum never smells)

what would you call it?

[smilingibis]

That sounds about right, but my first ejaculations after a period of AB usually are much clearer than the next. They get thicker & spermier after the first & second shots.

[Zach]

oops double post

[Zach]

I saw many porn clips that they can ejaculate without touching any part of their body. How can they do that?
If I want to do like that, what should I do?

what u want to do is mental masturbation. get in a comfy position, get horny, close your eyes and concentrate real hard and AB helps a lot. just be aware that i dont think many guys can do it. in all the people ive talked to ive only met 1 than could do it, but its just masturbating with your mind and not your hands. spontaneous ejaculation isnt the correct term. spontaneous by definition is ...

spon·ta·ne·ous
/spänˈtānēəs/
Adjective
Performed or occurring without premeditation or external stimulus

meaning it just happens. i have had a SE and it came with no warning and just happened and u cant make it happen or it wouldnt be spontaneous.

but if u want to try id suggest ABing as long as u can and wait till you are super horny, a quiet comfy bed and no distractions. think of something that really turns u on or watch porn or whatever if that works for u, i usually watch some porn in a dark room for a half hour or more and then i close my eyes and concentrate to make myself as horny as possible until i cum. usually takes me about 12-15 minutes once i close my eyes and concentrate and i can only do it after about 4 to 7 days of AB. if im jerking off every day then i cant do it at all, believe me ive tried. oh and i never touch at all during the entire process. im not sure y but seems if i touch myself at all i cant make it happen.

anyway good luck

[Texanguy]

Zach, what is your experience with the relationship between pure mental masturbation and WDs? I would think that just like with normal masturbation, frequent mental masturbation would reduce or eliminate WDs. But on the other hand, mental masturbation once in a while might help train your brain to more easily do it in WDs.

So have you (or anyone else) noticed a correlation between mental masturbation and WDs? Does occasional mental masturbation help increase, help decrease, or have no effect on how often you get WDs?

[Zach]

Zach, what is your experience with the relationship between pure mental masturbation and WDs? I would think that just like with normal masturbation, frequent mental masturbation would reduce or eliminate WDs. But on the other hand, mental masturbation once in a while might help train your brain to more easily do it in WDs.

So have you (or anyone else) noticed a correlation between mental masturbation and WDs? Does occasional mental masturbation help increase, help decrease, or have no effect on how often you get WDs?

i would agree at least in my case that it reduces chance of WDs. its not easy for me to do and is very tiring sometimes and the orgasm isnt as good as that from normal MB but the part leading up to the orgasm is incredible. it takes a lot of concentration and a vivid imagination for me to have the images in my mind to produce a totally hands free orgasm. i think the extra work in my mind really delays a WD considerably. i think thats one of the reasons im not having the amount of WDs as i was a year ago cuz i have done several hands free orgasms this year.

[Texanguy]

Thanks for your observations. As someone experienced on all three, on a scale of 1 to 100, where would you place mental MB, physical MB, and WDs on average?

[InterestedGirl]

I saw many porn clips that they can ejaculate without touching any part of their body. How can they do that?
If I want to do like that, what should I do?

what u want to do is mental masturbation. get in a comfy position, get horny, close your eyes and concentrate real hard and AB helps a lot. just be aware that i dont think many guys can do it. in all the people ive talked to ive only met 1 than could do it, but its just masturbating with your mind and not your hands. spontaneous ejaculation isnt the correct term. spontaneous by definition is ...

spon·ta·ne·ous
/spänˈtānēəs/
Adjective
Performed or occurring without premeditation or external stimulus

meaning it just happens. i have had a SE and it came with no warning and just happened and u cant make it happen or it wouldnt be spontaneous.

but if u want to try id suggest ABing as long as u can and wait till you are super horny, a quiet comfy bed and no distractions. think of something that really turns u on or watch porn or whatever if that works for u, i usually watch some porn in a dark room for a half hour or more and then i close my eyes and concentrate to make myself as horny as possible until i cum. usually takes me about 12-15 minutes once i close my eyes and concentrate and i can only do it after about 4 to 7 days of AB. if im jerking off every day then i cant do it at all, believe me ive tried. oh and i never touch at all during the entire process. im not sure y but seems if i touch myself at all i cant make it happen.

anyway good luck

Right, it's good to keep in mind the distinction between a true SPONTANEOUS ejaculation (or just orgasm in my case) and 1 you bring on yourself conciously, albeit thru mental rather than physical stimulation. I had a true spontaneous orgasm once, completely out of the blue. Have been trying to achieve an orgasm thru "mental masturbation" for some time now, get very close (mental edging?) but can't quite get over the top without touching. Wondering if I need to stop all physical stimulation, not just to the point of orgasm, for a no-touch orgasm to happen? I'd think in theory if a person can have a WD they could have an SE, since it's basically the same thing, just a matter of the right nerouns firing, but IDK, maybe there is some physiological process that occurs only during sleep that makes WD possible.

[Aquablue]

I saw many porn clips that they can ejaculate without touching any part of their body. How can they do that?
If I want to do like that, what should I do?

Your brain can be trained to make you ejaculate without touching your penis, just with mental stimulation. As the others have said, it's easiest if you're ABing for a period. When you feel horny you have a build up of sexual energy and if you focus on building this energy and moving it towards your genitals you will get more and more aroused until you can't hold it anymore and ejaculate with an intense orgasm.

[Aquablue]

Zach, what is your experience with the relationship between pure mental masturbation and WDs? I would think that just like with normal masturbation, frequent mental masturbation would reduce or eliminate WDs. But on the other hand, mental masturbation once in a while might help train your brain to more easily do it in WDs.

So have you (or anyone else) noticed a correlation between mental masturbation and WDs? Does occasional mental masturbation help increase, help decrease, or have no effect on how often you get WDs?

In my experience mental masturbation in the long term makes it easier to achieve WDs but may make it less likely to get WDs immediately following an ejaculation. I think it helps train the brain to ejaculate without physical stimulation and rather just with mental imagery which is required in WDs

[Aquablue]

Thanks for your observations. As someone experienced on all three, on a scale of 1 to 100, where would you place mental MB, physical MB, and WDs on average?

I have experienced all three as well as SE's and would rate them as follows in terms of pleasure/intensity of orgasm:

Mental MB - potentially extremely intense (90-100)
Physical MB- 70
WDs- variable; ranging from 0 (no memory or experience of orgasm) to close to 90
SE's- 85

Also spontaneous emissions but these have no associated orgasm, just leakage of fluid.

One difference I've noted between Mental MB and an SE/WD is with mental MB the orgasm is super intense and very 'deep' and leaves you satisfied and drained for a long time whereas with an SE or WD I tend to feel just as horny and energetic afterwards.

[Texanguy]

Aquablue, thanks for your input.

What you say about mental MB helping to make getting WDs more easily, while at the same time delaying a WD immediately after makes sense. If a guy is having trouble getting WDs while abstaining, it may be a worthwhile experiment for them to take some time out from AB and engage in mental MB multiple times with no physical MB at all. Then go back to AB and see if WDs are more likely to happen.

It is interesting that you give normal MB the lowest score. It would seem logical then for a person to replace normal MB with some combination of mental MB and WDs. WDs seem the best option, since they can be quite intense, but at the same time they are not draining and retain energy. There is nothing wrong with waking up from an intense WD completely eager and ready for another one rather than let down and tired.

It would be interesting to do actual testing, but it seems quite possible that WDs may not negatively affect testosterone levels as much as either physical or mental MB.

[InterestedGirl]

Aquablue, thanks for your input.

What you say about mental MB helping to make getting WDs more easily, while at the same time delaying a WD immediately after makes sense. If a guy is having trouble getting WDs while abstaining, it may be a worthwhile experiment for them to take some time out from AB and engage in mental MB multiple times with no physical MB at all. Then go back to AB and see if WDs are more likely to happen.

It is interesting that you give normal MB the lowest score. It would seem logical then for a person to replace normal MB with some combination of mental MB and WDs. WDs seem the best option, since they can be quite intense, but at the same time they are not draining and retain energy. There is nothing wrong with waking up from an intense WD completely eager and ready for another one rather than let down and tired.

It would be interesting to do actual testing, but it seems quite possible that WDs may not negatively affect testosterone levels as much as either physical or mental MB.

I realize it may be diferent for guys, but Re: mental MB having a negative effect on T levels, there is a study indicating that sexual thoughts INCREASE T levels in women. Here:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21185838
If you don't want to click the link, The Wikipedia summary is this: "Psychological sexual arousal also has an effect on physiological mechanisms; Goldey and van Anders[21] showed that sexual cognitions impact hormone levels in women, such that sexual thoughts result in a rapid increase in testosterone in women who were not using hormonal contraception. "
I think there could be something to this, as during this AB I've had the worst acne I've ever had in my life (at the ripe old age of 29), even worse than when I was a teen.

[hbkid718]

When I gave up MB, I would watch porn to get hard and get dirty thoughts in my head to dream. Most of the time since I was AB, I was so horny that my penis had a mind of its own, got extremely hard and I came all over. Once I had that SE, then I was never able to get a WD. So, if you don't want a WD, then I suggest don't have a SE.