Still not convinced that WDs are better than MB

[BePositive]

I've only had a few wds and they felt very very average at best not as good as mbing and I know that they usually get better the more you have. It's just that with mbing you get it when you want. Just feels so great lying down putting as much pressure on it and having an orgasm and ejaculation on demand. The fact is that I am capable of getting as many orgasms as I want in a day and apply as much whereas with wds you have to wait, have the frustration of having so much sperm in you etc. I'm just not convinced yet that wds are better and I just don't know if it's worth all the hassle and stress. So please someone tell me, is it worth it???

[AGT]

I think the jury is still out on this one. One point though, it's a bit of a bummer to wake up an hour or two later and still have the evidence of a massive wet dream, but not remember the dream at all!! I know from the personal experience of having shot a big load all over the place and not remembering a thing. This has happened a few times.

[doughs]

BePositive,

Do you mean you are lying face down and masturbating by thrusting your penis into or against something? That is a cause of sexual dysfunctions. See http://www.healthystrokes.com for more info.

To answer your question, I think MB is a lot better than WDs. In a sense, every male chose MB over WD because by making MB a daily habit, we put an end to our WDs, usually forever. I had WD for 2 1/2 years before I learned that there was more fun to be had whenever I wanted it. The 2 1/2 years were fun, but the time since then has been a lot more fun. (And the last couple of decades have been STILL more fun, but that's not your question.)

[AGT]

BePositive,

To answer your question is difficult as everybody is different. There are many who say that a WD is much more intense and enjoyable. This can only happen if you wake up fully before the orgasm has gone too far, and are thus able to recall the intensity of the WD.

If on the other hand you don't wake up until some time after the orgasm it would be impossible to really judge the intensity and enjoyment of the WD, as all you are basing that judgement on is a dream. Dreams are simply dreams, nothing more - they are not real. I will give you an example of a very enjoyable WD that I had when I was in my twenties. I had just woken up during a very intense and erotic and enjoyable WD. They enjoyment on a scale of 1 to 10 was around 12!!! I woke up while I was about to ejaculate, and can clearly remember how hard and strong my erection was. I was so hard that instead of pointing up at about 30 degrees from the horizontal when laying on my back, my erection was so strong that my penis was actually pushing into my tummy. Because of this pressing into my tummy the semen only travelled about 6 inches from my penis head along my tummy. I can still remember how warm and how much spurted out with each contraction. There were about 12 full contractions, each spurting a massive amount of semen. There was so much semen that it started running down both sides of my tummy into the sheet. There was huge amount of semen - I can honestly say that I have never shot that much semen before or after that WD. I can also say that I don't think I have ever had such an intense orgasm since - whether it was a WD, MB session, or sexual activity with my subsequent gf's or wife.

What was the dream about? Well, I had just seen Olivia Newton-John live on stage the day before. We were in the centre of the third row of seats in the venue. These were some of the best seats available. Olivia Newton-John in 1975 was an extremely beautiful and attractive young lady, and I "fell instantly in love with her", as did most of the guys in the audience!!. The dream - I was making passionate love with her. The dream was very detailed and this obviously had an effect on the intensity of the WD. But, It was still a dream and only a dream - it was not real!!.

It's amazing on how remembering that WD still affects me. I am a bit embarrassed to admit that I got an erection while typing about it and still have it now.

I hope this puts some perspective on which are better.

[Texanguy]

I think there are several different aspects to it. One is that, as AGT described, WDs can be more exciting, and can give more intense, longer lasting, and full body orgasms. As he also described, more semen volume can be ejaculated than MB. These two logically go together.

Another aspect is the different aftereffects of a WD vs MB. After MB, people often feel letdown and lose interest in doing it again. They get 'turned off', lose energy, and might feel bored. But you can have the most intense orgasm in a WD, and ejaculate more cum than you ever had by MB, and still feel excited and horny afterwards. You can feel good and energized after a WD, think of the dream as a great experience, and be eager to repeat it. The 'post-MB letdown' is often simply non-existent after a WD, and can be replaced with energized excitement instead.

It seems like the brain/body must know the difference between MB and WDs. It might even be that the letdown experienced after MB actually begins before the orgasm is complete, limiting the relative intensity of the orgasm and amount of cum ejaculated compared to a good WD.

Another aspect is that more and more people are seeing positive differences in other areas of their lives when they abstain from MB. They often observe more energy, enthusiasm, and more self confidence, including in social situations. This may be due in part to higher testosterone levels, which some research shows in fact occurs when abstaining from MB. Many guys find that they don't need as much sleep and have better workouts at the gym. Another positive aspect of abstaining is that guys can enjoy a 'controlled horniness' that does not lead to a desire to MB, and can even be felt without an erection.

MB can eliminate these effects, but if anything, WDs can enhance them.

You can do more research on this yourself. Google ["wet dreams" "better than masturbation"] or ["wet dreams" "better than fapping"]. Bodybuilding and other sites also have very long 'no fap' topics dedicated to the positive effects of abstaining as guys try to go through the process and describe the effects they experience. There are also some 'rebooting' from porn websites that have similar topics. You can see people describe and document their attempts and successes, as well as their failures.

After informing yourself, you may want to give it a try, especially if you've already had some WDs and know that you can likely still get them.