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by hbkid718 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:53 am
Hi everyone,
It's HBKid718 again. Lent is coming up next week, which is the time you fast and give things up to remember what Jesus did prior to Easter. Anyway, I am a frequent MB, so I usually give that up for Lent. Last year I didn't give it up because I was on vacation and thought that if I gave it up, I could potentially have a WD or SE in the middle of Disney World. I didn't give it up which worked out for the better, since I MB'd before I left and I didn't have to do it again until I came back. The years prior to that, I only gave up MB to try to have WD, but as the years went on, I've had less and less WDs. Here's what happened in the years past:
2006
3/1: Beginning of Lent 3/15: 1st WD 3/20: 2nd WD 3/25: 3rd WD 3/27: 1st SE 3/30: 2nd SE 4/5: 4th WD 4/6: 3rd SE 4/11 (early in the morning): 5th WD 4/11 (later in afternoon): 4th SE 4/13: 5th SE 4/16: End of Lent 4/20: 1st MB
2007: 2/21: 1st day of Lent - Abstaining from MB begins 2/22-2/26: nothing happens 2/27: 1st SE 2/28-3/7: nothing happens 3/8: 2nd SE 3/9-3/19: nothing happens 3/19 - 3/22: nothing happens or did it? (possible WD while sleeping, but not knowing it) 3/22- 3/29: nothing happens 3/29: 3rd SE 3/30 - 4/7: nothing happens 4/8: Lent ends and 1st MB happens
2008: 2/5 - Last MB session 2/6 - Lent and abstaining from MB begins 2/7 - 2/13 - Nothing happens 2/14 (4:15 AM) - 1st WD occurs 2/15 - 2/20 - Nothing happens 2/21 (3:05 PM) - 1st SE 2/22 - 2/28 - Nothing happens 2/29 (3:20 AM) - 2nd SE 3/1 (4:30 PM) - 3rd SE 3/2 - 3/6 - Nothing happens (1 Month since I last MB'd) 3/7 - 3/10 - Nothing happens 3/11 (3:30 PM) - 4th SE 3/12 - 3/13 - Nothing happens 3/13 (2:45 PM) - 5th SE 3/14 - 3/25 - Nothing happens 3/25 - Lent ends (Back to MB'ing)
So, I think if I give it up again, I'll probably not have a WD due to my body having its own way to release my semen, through SE's when I watch porn. Also, this year I really don't MB as much as I used to. My father lost his job so he's always home so I don't have the opportunities to MB every Tues. & Thurs. that I used to and can only MB when I'm in the bathroom, shower, or in bed, which is very rare, because I go to bed so late, that I'm too tired to MB. So, since my frequency is down, do you think I should still give up MB or should I do what I did last year and just give up porn. Also, if you read my last post, I did have a WD when I didn't MB for a week. So, does that mean that I could have it again since my MB frequency is down? I would love to hear your opinions and thoughts. Thanks.
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by Thursday » Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:32 am
I think this is getting pretty stupid. Every year you just abstain for Easter. Well I'm not with you this time. Either learn to abstain for the many good reasons, indefinitely, or don't bother. This abstinence just for Lent every year is pointless.
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by Frost00 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:03 am
what would you say is a good reason?
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by dontgiveup » Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:20 am
I agree Thursday, I see little point in abstaining for 40 days and quitting wouldn't Jesus want you to go all the way?
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by Texanguy » Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:01 pm
hbkid718 wrote:So, since my frequency is down, do you think I should still give up MB or should I do what I did last year and just give up porn. Also, if you read my last post, I did have a WD when I didn't MB for a week. So, does that mean that I could have it again since my MB frequency is down? I would love to hear your opinions and thoughts. Thanks.
Welcome back! If your MB rate has been down, it might help you get a WD if you abstain. Give it a try and see what happens! To those who say why should be bother, I say it is up to him. He is free to abstain when he wants for as long as he wants. He may even decide that he likes it and may continue past lent this time. Good luck!
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by Lucid » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:00 am
Thursday wrote:I think this is getting pretty stupid. Every year you just abstain for Easter. Well I'm not with you this time. Either learn to abstain for the many good reasons, indefinitely, or don't bother. This abstinence just for Lent every year is pointless.
Can Thursday refrain from making comments like this? For 40 days? Indefinitely? I think he will fail. There are as many good reasons for silence as there are for chastity. Some people respond well to your type of criticism, but from what I’ve seen in the past at this forum, most people don’t. Likewise, do you appreciate me making this criticism about your behavior Thursday? Is it going to help you improve your character or is it just going to make you angry and resentful? Texanguy wrote:To those who say why should he bother, I say it is up to him. He is free to abstain when he wants for as long as he wants.
I agree.
Existence-consciousness is the only reality. Consciousness plus waking we call waking. Consciousness plus sleep we call sleep. Consciousness plus dream we call dream. Consciousness is the screen on which all the pictures come and go. The screen is real, the pictures are mere shadows. — Sri Ramana Maharshi
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by dontgiveup » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:17 am
Lucid wrote:Thursday wrote:I think this is getting pretty stupid. Every year you just abstain for Easter. Well I'm not with you this time. Either learn to abstain for the many good reasons, indefinitely, or don't bother. This abstinence just for Lent every year is pointless.
Can Thursday refrain from making comments like this? For 40 days? Indefinitely? I think he will fail. There are as many good reasons for silence as there are for chastity. Some people respond well to your type of criticism, but from what I’ve seen in the past at this forum, most people don’t. Likewise, do you appreciate me making this criticism about your behavior Thursday? Is it going to help you improve your character or is it just going to make you angry and resentful? Texanguy wrote:To those who say why should he bother, I say it is up to him. He is free to abstain when he wants for as long as he wants.
I agree.
I have never seen Thursday go out of line on someone and I think this is no different. Constructive criticism should be welcomed especially when you have a guy like Thursday who has won this battle. Abstaining for Lint makes no sense, it's just a "religious activity" which shows no commitment outside of that "religious activity" He can do what he wants, but I doubt God wants people to abstain because of some man-made holiday. Just my two cents.
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by hbkid718 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:07 am
Thank you all for your thoughts and comments, even Thursday. Maybe Texan is right, maybe if I give it up for Lent, which is not a man-made holiday, dontgiveup, I won't go back and try to abstain longer. I haven't decided yet what I'm going to do. I'm going to think about it over the weekend and let everyone know my decision Tuesday, the day before Ash Wednesday, when Lent officially begins.
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by dontgiveup » Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:18 am
hbkid718 wrote:Thank you all for your thoughts and comments, even Thursday. Maybe Texan is right, maybe if I give it up for Lent, which is not a man-made holiday, dontgiveup, I won't go back and try to abstain longer. I haven't decided yet what I'm going to do. I'm going to think about it over the weekend and let everyone know my decision Tuesday, the day before Ash Wednesday, when Lent officially begins.
When in the Bible was Lent instituted? I'm not talking about fasting for 40 days, I'm talking about when did Jesus (or another apostle) institute Lent as something you should do? Also isn't MB looked poorly upon by the church? I don't think the intention of Lent is to take out sins (you're already supposed to have done that) it's to abstain from things that you enjoy, but are non-sinful. I'm not Catholic so I could be dead wrong and if I am please explain my error.
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by hbkid718 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:23 am
dontgiveup wrote:hbkid718 wrote:Thank you all for your thoughts and comments, even Thursday. Maybe Texan is right, maybe if I give it up for Lent, which is not a man-made holiday, dontgiveup, I won't go back and try to abstain longer. I haven't decided yet what I'm going to do. I'm going to think about it over the weekend and let everyone know my decision Tuesday, the day before Ash Wednesday, when Lent officially begins.
When in the Bible was Lent instituted? I'm not talking about fasting for 40 days, I'm talking about when did Jesus (or another apostle) institute Lent as something you should do? Also isn't MB looked poorly upon by the church? I don't think the intention of Lent is to take out sins (you're already supposed to have done that) it's to abstain from things that you enjoy, but are non-sinful. I'm not Catholic so I could be dead wrong and if I am please explain my error.
To tell you the truth, I'm not religious. I don't go to Church or anything, but I always give up something for Lent. And yeah, MB is looked upon poorly and that's why I give it and porn up for Lent. You're supposed to give up anything that you consider a vice, whether it is MB or eating sweets, it's all up to the individual.
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by dontgiveup » Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:32 am
hbkid718 wrote:dontgiveup wrote:hbkid718 wrote:Thank you all for your thoughts and comments, even Thursday. Maybe Texan is right, maybe if I give it up for Lent, which is not a man-made holiday, dontgiveup, I won't go back and try to abstain longer. I haven't decided yet what I'm going to do. I'm going to think about it over the weekend and let everyone know my decision Tuesday, the day before Ash Wednesday, when Lent officially begins.
When in the Bible was Lent instituted? I'm not talking about fasting for 40 days, I'm talking about when did Jesus (or another apostle) institute Lent as something you should do? Also isn't MB looked poorly upon by the church? I don't think the intention of Lent is to take out sins (you're already supposed to have done that) it's to abstain from things that you enjoy, but are non-sinful. I'm not Catholic so I could be dead wrong and if I am please explain my error.
To tell you the truth, I'm not religious. I don't go to Church or anything, but I always give up something for Lent. And yeah, MB is looked upon poorly and that's why I give it and porn up for Lent. You're supposed to give up anything that you consider a vice, whether it is MB or eating sweets, it's all up to the individual.
OK now I'm really confused, you aren't religious, but you give MB up for a religious activity. I'm not going to even try to understand your logic, but OK. Good luck on abstaining and I hope you can make it through Lent, if you can't though the "Church of DGU" (established 5 minutes ago) has marked the 40 Days before the 4th of July as "Holy days" and I expect you to abstain through those as well because even though you aren't religious, you abstain for major "religious holy days" and this is the big one for the "Church of DGU" so I hope you're on board because hey we have a pope too... me
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by Thursday » Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:31 pm
Thanks for your support of reason, dontgiveup. I was basically making the valid point that you should do something properly or not at all. It's like to do this: read about how harmful smoking is, all of the many diseases it's linked to, the ones it's been directly proven to cause, the fact it's proven your chances of contracting many cancers increases a LOT if you smoke even a FEW cigarettes per day. I could go on and on about the dangers of smoking, but for the sake of this example, it's proven beyond reasonable doubt, (way beyond that actually,) that smoking tobacco is extremely harmful. Knowing the dangers, "X" decided to carry on smoking, but quit every year for Lent. It could be any other fixed period, so it could be that "X" quits MB for Lent every year, and quits smoking for the whole of February every year, so that's 28 days or 29 on leap-years. Simply, it makes no sense at all. Anyway, I could construct a long, thorough post here pointing out how I gave a small piece of constructive criticism, which makes sense and ultimately is HELPFUL to both the OP and other people who are considering the "quit MB for Lent"-type approach. But anyone who's intelligent and looking at this objectively can clearly see the absurdity of giving up MB for Lent, every year since 2006. [Or- did the OP miss a year? .... Well; whatever, that's generally what he's been doing.] I'll just post this and everyone can make up their own minds. I have noticed the post(s) attacking me and choose not to respond in kind, I simply say 'take care' to the people posting such things, and I wish them no ill. I've not even mentioned the religious aspect of this yet. If you believe MB to be sinful, particularly Catholics and others who believe MB to be a mortal, or very serious, sin. If so, at least TRY your hardest to give up MB - permanently.
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by Lucid » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:41 am
Thursday wrote:I have noticed the post(s) attacking me and choose not to respond in kind, I simply say 'take care' to the people posting such things, and I wish them no ill.
Ditto. I wasn't attacking you though it appeared that way; rather, I was giving you some constructive criticism.
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by Thursday » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:50 pm
Lucid wrote:Thursday wrote:I have noticed the post(s) attacking me and choose not to respond in kind, I simply say 'take care' to the people posting such things, and I wish them no ill.
Ditto. I wasn't attacking you though it appeared that way; rather, I was giving you some constructive criticism.
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by hbkid718 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:18 am
After taking everyone's comments into consideration, I have decided that I'm not going to give up MB for Lent. There's no point. I gave it up in the beginning because I wanted to try to have a WD after finding this site. But then as the years went on and I've had fewer and fewer WDs due to me having SEs or because I MB too much, I lost interest in having WDs. Thursday, you're right, if I should attempt to give it up, I should try to do it outside of Lent and for a longer period of time. dontgiveup, you're right, if I'm not religious, why should I even give anything up. So my decision is this: I am not giving up MB for Lent or any other time. You know what, I'm not calling it MB anymore. That "dirty" word here shouldn't be censored. I LOVE MASTURBATION. I love the feeling I get when I get hard, I love the feeling of my hard cock in my hand, the feeling when I'm about to cum, and then the release and watching that cum fly. I'm getting hard just thinking about it. So, no offense to anyone here and I support you in your effort to not masturbate and try to have wet dreams, but this is my final post here on the forums. Thanks for all of the advice in the past as I started my quest to abstain for Lent the last 4 years. Thanks for letting me share my updates, thoughts, and feelings. So, to the Mods, feel free to close my account. Maybe in the future I will visit to see how everyone is doing or to read your posts, but until then, good luck to everyone in their journeys. So, once again, thank you to everyone and with one hand on my cock, I'll use the other one to say goodbye.
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by scorkin21 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:35 am
hbkid718 wrote:After taking everyone's comments into consideration, I have decided that I'm not going to give up MB for Lent. There's no point. I gave it up in the beginning because I wanted to try to have a WD after finding this site. But then as the years went on and I've had fewer and fewer WDs due to me having SEs or because I MB too much, I lost interest in having WDs. Thursday, you're right, if I should attempt to give it up, I should try to do it outside of Lent and for a longer period of time. dontgiveup, you're right, if I'm not religious, why should I even give anything up. So my decision is this: I am not giving up MB for Lent or any other time. You know what, I'm not calling it MB anymore. That "dirty" word here shouldn't be censored. I LOVE MASTURBATION. I love the feeling I get when I get hard, I love the feeling of my hard cock in my hand, the feeling when I'm about to cum, and then the release and watching that cum fly. I'm getting hard just thinking about it. So, no offense to anyone here and I support you in your effort to not masturbate and try to have wet dreams, but this is my final post here on the forums. Thanks for all of the advice in the past as I started my quest to abstain for Lent the last 4 years. Thanks for letting me share my updates, thoughts, and feelings. So, to the Mods, feel free to close my account. Maybe in the future I will visit to see how everyone is doing or to read your posts, but until then, good luck to everyone in their journeys. So, once again, thank you to everyone and with one hand on my cock, I'll use the other one to say goodbye.
well, there's nothing much we can do to get you back here if you are already set on going back to MB. Wish you all the best. Hope you change your mind 1 day and decide to abstain from MB once again, WDF will definitely welcome you. Scorkin21
Begin With the End in Mind. We know that WD is our goal, and to do that, we have to abstain from MB, so let's do it. Go! Go! Go! We can all do it.
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by hbkid718 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:11 am
This was my last post before I decided to come back to the site. I still MB as much as I can. I will never be able to give it up, but I thought I would return to the site, to see what was going on. Also, I want to participate again. Maybe reading some of these posts will convince me to give up masturbating again and try to get a WD. I have viewed some of the videos and read several posts and think it's cool that most of you abstain and try to have a WD. I wish you luck and will try to contribute here, with my thoughts and ideas.
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