WDs for 2008, causes, and other topics

[City.Rat]

I just had my first WD of 2009 this past Monday, 12 Jan. That brought to mind the WDF.

So I thought I would drop in and file a report about my WD experiences for 2008. I kept a calendar last year and would place a symbol on each day where an emission occurred. I had a total of nine WDs during 2008. That is an average of once every 40 days.

That is pretty sparse, and it is a period of time typical of those trying to get their first WD. But it is pretty good for someone who never had WDs at all before, and for whom they were so difficult to obtain.

You have to be careful with averages. Did you hear the one about the guy that drowned trying to cross a river that was an average of two feet deep? The average given above includes both short and long periods between the WDs. The shortest wait was one day. Yes, I actually had a WD on two consecutive nights. This was followed by a period of three months with no WDs at all.

This calendar keeping has led to the rather odd observation that my WDs occur in pairs. I will have a WD, then a second one will follow within one to ten days. After that, no less than three weeks (and up to twelve weeks) will pass until the next pair. Very strange, but it is like there is this feeling of unfinished business following the first one of the pair, which is then concluded in the second one.

I have not had a large number of WDs. But believe I have now had enough to begin establishing some initial patterns in their occurrence and cause.

I must reluctantly admit that psychology is more of a factor than I considered it to be in the past. Reluctantly, because if it was mere chemistry, the triggers and factors would be much easier to find and understand. Here is my personal example.

While researching the subject of nocturnal emissions, I came across many instances of spiritual practitioners discussing how to prevent these events. Retention of the semen is practiced by mystic yogis, Taoists, Gnostics, and other spiritualists seeking a benefit of greater energy, divine union, and so forth. Whether or not you believe any of that, I found it interesting that so many of them had a problem maintaining continence for any length of time, a problem which the members of the WDF would love to have.

I began to think that if there is really any benefit to semen retention, then I would certainly be eligible to receive it, knowing the rarity with which my body experiences WDs. I managed to convince myself that I was inadvertently succeeding in a practice which baffled the most ardent mystic. I began to think not in terms of “how long until my next WD”, but “how long can I hold it in”. Naturally, I had a WD within the week.

There is definitely something contrarian about the mind (or maybe just my mind). When I think in terms of retention, rather than release, it seems to raise the likelihood that release will occur.

Another factor related to this contrarian psychology is one of attention. The less attention I pay to trying to have a WD, the more likely it is to occur. In other words, when I stop trying to have a WD, I have a WD. I have found that no amount of positive desire for a WD is capable of making it happen, at least in my case. I am approaching (but have not reached) the conclusion that such desire may actually harm the chances of having a WD. But forgetting about WDs makes it more likely. It is like the saying “a watched pot never boils”.

This produces something of an internal contradiction where I am trying to have a WD by trying not to have a WD. Don’t have a WD? Such negative reinforcements rarely work, as those in this forum trying to give up MB know very well. What is the first thing someone thinks of when you tell them not to think of an elephant?

A positive way of putting it would be in terms of semen retention, like the spiritualists mentioned above. How long can I go without a nocturnal emission? A rather ironic goal for someone in the WDF. Anyone up for a contest?

I know there have been numerous discussions and polls on undergarments and their effects on the chances of having a WD, and the general conclusion is that there is no relation between underwear choices and WD frequency. I have had WDs with tight underwear (close fitting boxer briefs), and with none at all (just sweatpants, no underwear). But tighter does seem to raise the chances for me.

There have also been discussions on sleeping position and WD frequency. An interesting result of these discussions is a general acknowledgement that sleeping on one’s back seems to raise the chances of having a WD. To this, I will agree. I have had WDs in all sleeping positions, but more than half of them occurred when I was on my back. Those also tended to be the most voluminous (to put it nicely) and most memorable of the dreams.

The subject matter of the dreams varies. Half of the dreams are about having a WD. That is, I will dream I am in bed (any bed, not necessarily mine, and I am not necessarily myself) when suddenly I begin to ejaculate and awaken (in the dream). After realizing what happened, I will really awaken and find I have actually had a WD. About a quarter of the dreams are about MB. I will find myself in some situation, sometimes erotic, sometimes not, and I will grab myself, and with a single squeeze feel the emission. The other quarter of the dreams are a combination of murky forgetfulness and irrelevance. Suddenly ejaculating while walking in a parking lot, for example, or not remembering the dream at all. I wish the dreams were a little more interesting.

This is not to say the process is not worthwhile. The feelings following a WD are quite intense, and last well into the next day. And I can say that I never had a full erection that lasted for ten minutes, without any kind of physical stimulation, except in the period following a WD.

That is my report for now, and we will see how 2009 goes.

[Texanguy]

Thanks for the information! I missed your post when I was extremely busy, but it's good information when someone makes a study and posts observations about their WD's.

[i89rt55]

I strongly suggest this post by City.Rat should be marked as "sticky" and put at the top of this "General Discussion" sub-forum so that everyone can easily see and learn something from it. IMHO, it has quite a few highly valuable clues for improving WD likelihood.

As to the phenomenon of spiritual practitioners seeking semen retention, from my possibly biased understanding limited to Taoists and Buddhists (I'm originally from China), these folks (male of course) view semen as the essence of energy, which they seek to preserve as much as possible. And so they want to avoid nocturnal emission as much as possible in addition to avoiding sex. Also, I want to point out that they always want to avoid sexual thoughts of any kind, as they believe sexual thoughts consume the precious energy they accumulated. This give us a possible clue that avoiding sexual thoughts may actually improve WD odds. Of course avoiding MB, sex, and waking ejaculation of any kind is apparently a must for WD seekers, even though sometime MB/sex after long-time abstinence seems to trigger a WD.

Just my 2 cents.

Jerry

I just had my first WD of 2009 this past Monday, 12 Jan. That brought to mind the WDF.

So I thought I would drop in and file a report about my WD experiences for 2008. I kept a calendar last year and would place a symbol on each day where an emission occurred. I had a total of nine WDs during 2008. That is an average of once every 40 days.

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That is my report for now, and we will see how 2009 goes.

[TheAmazingBean]

Thanks for the interesting post, City.Rat

[1dj]

on DAY 21
and i am feeling quite happy
can u tell me how much more i have to wait

six months a year ??? or 9 days ?;)



thanks to the WDF creator

[Lucid]

There is definitely something contrarian about the mind (or maybe just my mind).

“Contrarian” is a very good word to describe the mind.

[aleswurth]

Thank You, City.Rat, for keeping your relevant report going all last year and for sharing it with us.

Very insightful & well-written.

[Random]

This give us a possible clue that avoiding sexual thoughts may actually improve WD odds.

Based on my personal experiences, I support this.

[Squeeze]

Yeah, when I've had WDs in that past, they (usually) seemed to come after a time when I was thinking about sex the least, and certainly not edging, etc. So this is a good reminder.

[sopater]

Interesting post City.Rat

[Thursday]

This is a 'sticky' topic, and looking at the title, is related to 2008 WDs ... with this in mind, can this thread be closed or locked, and un-stickied (sp.?,) since it's no longer relevant? Another thread could be 'promoted' to a sticky, such as a thread titled the same as this one APART from '2008' in the title being substituted with '2010,' -that's if we need such a thread. In any case, there's no need for this 2008 thread now that we're in 2010, so please Focus can you un-sticky and lock this thread ... cheers, Thursday.