Wet Dreams - ULTIMATE HOW TO after devoting 2 years of my li

[dipke3]

This is going to be a long post guys, sorry about that.

My name is Dennis and I have devoted two years of my life researching wet dreams. There you go. I bet no-one introduced himself like this before. :-)

I started having wet dreams about every 10-12 days when I was thirteen years old. Although I was prepared this could happen (thanks mom!), I didn't find those orgasms pleasurable. I woke up as soon as my ejaculation started and it was no fun at all having to sleep with wet PJ's until the next morning. My classmates told me I could avoid having those dreams with masturbation. I guess this is something everyone discovers at some point, right? As a result I didn't have wet dreams anymore for the next 20 years.

Despite the fact I didn't enjoy my wet dreams, I have always been puzzled by the mystery behind them. What exactly causes them? What's the mechanism behind a wet dream? And especially: can you force them to happen, even as an adult?

I've got a medical background so I have full access to plenty of books, studies and papers. I started collecting and reading everything I could find on this subject. It took me plenty of time to find all the pieces of this complicated puzzle, since medicine doesn't really seem to be interested in this subject.

In the beginning, I thought there would be a relationship between masturbation and wet dreams. Almost all young teens have wet dreams and grown up men never have them. Right? So you might think: as soon as teens start masturbating, they don't have wet dreams anymore (which is correct) and as soon as you stop masturbating, they will resume again (which is not correct). Strange...

In some cultures or religions, masturbation is forbidden. It turns out adults from those groups that are not sexually active (in most cases because they don't have a partner) still have wet dreams (yes!), but not as frequently as teens. It's a myth only teens have wet dreams - adults can have them too - but the frequency seems to be lower. That's a good start - it IS actually possible to have wet dreams at a later age.

But how? Let's first have a look at the mechanism behind an ejaculation and the subsequent orgasm.

As you probably know, sperm develops in the testes. Once the sperm are produced, they move to the epididymis, where they grow, mature and learn to swim. When sperm is ready, they are pushed upwards in the the vas deferens, two long ropes ending in so-called ampulla near to the prostate. Two important rules: when you are sexually excited, this process is sped up, and the tension in these ampulla is what triggers a wet dream. More on this later.

Before sperm is actually ejaculated, it is mixed with seminal fluid produced by the seminal vesicles, injected in the prostate which adds prostatic fluid and finally ejected through the urethra. Contractions of the orgasm shoot out sperm from the penis.

It's important to know that the ampulla (and the semimal vesicles) are filled in a constant flow. This means that at a certain point, they reach their capacity. Before (or when) this happens, old fluids are reabsorbed (after approximately a week). This means it takes approximately a week after an ejaculation to restore the full capacity of the glands and ampulla. Even if you wait longer, there won't be more fluids. There might be some individual exceptions but I don't believe men that are telling they ejaculate more when they wait a few weeks. One week, two weeks, three weeks, there will barely be any difference. One important remark: this also means there is no such thing as "old sperm", since the fluids are renewed every week.

You could compare the whole system to an attraction at Disneyland. People queue to get inside an attraction. When the attraction starts (an ejaculation), the entire queue is cleared. When there are many people in the queue (you didn't ejaculate for a while), the waiting area gets full until the maximum capacity is reached (which happens after approximately a week). When the area gets overcrowded, cast members open an exit door to let people escape from the line (absorbtion). In practice there won't be tension in the ampulla and you won't have a wet dream.

It seems in teens, when puberty kicks in, this system where fluids are absorbed still has to be finetuned. For one reason or another, sperm isn't absorbed as fast as it should, causing wet dreams every week, when the ampulla are full and your body cannot get rid of the overflow. I'm pretty sure after a few months the absorbtion process would kick in sooner, but most teens will never reach that stage because they start masturbating sooner.

This is also the reason why the advice I often read "not to masturbate for several weeks to force a wet dream" does not really work in adults. Or at least, it works, but you'll have to wait for a loooong time. As long as you are not extremely sexually excited and your body can keep up ditching the old fluids, the queue will move on without any problem. Taking extra vitamins, injecting testosterone, eating bananas, doing sports, ... once the queue system is working at full force, this doesn't help.

What also doesn't help is edging. With this technique you masturbate a few times but you stop each time you're about to orgasm. Besides being terribly frustrating, it doesn't fill the ampulla fast enough.

So the key is to speed up transport of the semen from the epididymis to the ampulla, expanding them enough to force a wet dream. To do this, you'll need plenty of time and patience. Over the past months I've developed a method giving me a wet dream with 100% certainty. The whole process takes about ten days, including one masturbation free week.

At the beginning of the procedure, I always start with empty glands in order not to mess up counting days. It makes things easier. You'll have to masturbate twice on the first day, with as little time as possible between two ejaculations. I find this to be the most difficult part since I have a rather long refractory period. My second ejaculation is also far from enjoyable, but the glands really need to be as empty as possible.

Up next: no masturbation for exactly seven days. This gives your body enough time to fill the glands to their maximum without the absorbtion process kicking in.

After those seven days you'll need to force the ampulla to expand. The only way I've been able to do that is by keeping my body in a constant state of sexual arrousal. The WRONG way to do this is start masturbating like crazy. The CORRECT way is to watch porn, touch your body, gently stroke your penis once in a while, stimulate your nipples, in other words: to do and to watch whatever turns you on, as long as you don't start masturbating. Don't do this for one hour, but for several consecutive days. Unfortunately I'm not able to tell when the wet dream will kick in. It usually takes three to four days, but I've also had one after two days once.

What I've noticed as well is that I've sometimes got an impartial wet dream. Semen - the white sticky fluid we all know as "cum" - is composed out of fluids from the ampulla (transparent color), the seminal vesicles (yellow), the prostate (white) and Cowper’s glands (transparent, also called "pre-cum"). These fluids are released in a certain order - the first fraction of the semen contains fluid from the Cowper’s glands, followed by spermatozoa and zinc-rich prostatic fluid. The next fractions are mixed with thick secretions from the seminal vesicles, containing nutrient energy for the spermatozoa.

The order is important because it seems some of my wet dreams are only partial ejaculations, where the prostate contracts but the seminal vesicles are not emptied, because the process is interrupted due to me waking up in the split second before orgasm occurs.

I still don't like wet dreams. But I adore the build up. When the ampulla are stretched, it feels like I'm high on drugs. It's a really strange (but nice) feeling. Love it!

[aficionado]

That is fascinating. Maybe I'll try to time it with a long weekend so I can experiment with edging throughout the day for 3 or 4 days after 7 days of AB and see what happens.

[jessieboy]

Great post. Amazing summary.

Sounds like you are closely logging your data. Do you have any log to share?

You did a good job explaining why:
1) with ABing, wet dreams releases tend to be more "watery"
2) why the daily MBers has thick white cum vs the more watery/slimy cum of an ABer.
3) why sometimes some WDs and some SEs after ABing can be preceded by a "high" feeling (by stretched ampulla), often attributed to the feeling of falling or feeling of floating prior to release

[dipke3]

Sorry, no logging here... I don't do this often you know. I really like the addictive feeling of the fullness of the ampulla (causing the wet dream), but the wet dream itself... hmmmm.. I prefer a 'real' orgasm :-) It's also a LOT of work... in order to fill the ampulla faster than they can be emptied, I need to be in a constant aroused state from 7 in the morning till 10 in the evening for several days. This doesn't mean having an erection the whole time, but there should be some kind of visual/tactile stimulation to keep things going. This is not something you can do with your wife/girlfriend being around :-)

Also, my "method" has never been tested on someone else. It works every time when I've tried it in the past, but since I've never wrote about my discovery before, I'm not sure it works for everyone (I'm pretty curious about this myself).

[johnny2]

Thanks dipke3 for all your information. I'm going to try this and document as much as possible here.

I already had an orgasm 2 hours ago so I've tried the reset procedure you have described. I had a hard time though. It took me about 20 minutes before I could come. I honestly thought I couldn't finish. Eventually I managed but only a drop or so came out. I guess this is normal, right? Going into the 7 day pause now. Luckily I'm in between relationships so I have plenty of time to experiment...

[gettindirty]

132 days without masturbating to cum... And still counting and still no wet dream. Sad really... wonder how much longer i can go on without ejaculating or was it worth it at all...

[Cold4Yu]

Hello dipk3!

You mentioned at the end of your post that you "adore the build up. When the ampulla are stretched, it feels like I'm high on drugs. It's a really strange (but nice) feeling. Love it!"

When I started practicing abstinence at first, I would get this feeling of being "high" too! Usually I would ejaculate 2-3 weeks after abstaining. One time, I decided to go for 3 months of abstinence, and I could never get back that high from abstaining.

Do you know why this may be the case?

Thanks!

[johnny2]

I'll be logging my progress in the appropriate section of the forum. Wish me luck!

[MarcDiesel]

This actually makes sense to me. Thinking about how often teenagers watch porn or look at pictures and talk about sex daily, it keeps them in that constant state of arousal. Even personallythe times I had WDs (twice) I was still masturbating so it wasn’t necessarily the buildup of sperm.

Interesting post

[dipke3]

Hello dipk3!

You mentioned at the end of your post that you "adore the build up. When the ampulla are stretched, it feels like I'm high on drugs. It's a really strange (but nice) feeling. Love it!"

When I started practicing abstinence at first, I would get this feeling of being "high" too! Usually I would ejaculate 2-3 weeks after abstaining. One time, I decided to go for 3 months of abstinence, and I could never get back that high from abstaining.

Do you know why this may be the case?

Thanks!

When you abstain without visual/tactile stimuli, the body can keep up with the extra sperm production and simply absorbs whatever is too much. You need to get MORE production than the body can absorb. The only way to do that is to keep your body in a constant state of arousal.

[Beringsea]

Do you get blue balls from being so turned on for so long? Also does it matter if you precum? Will that empty the build up?

[dipke3]

Do you get blue balls from being so turned on for so long? Also does it matter if you precum? Will that empty the build up?

Build up is done in the ampulla, not where the precum is produced. So that's no problem.

Blue balls... Ummmm... Nothing compared to edging a whole day long. Mostly a very pleasurable feeling caused by the engorgement of the ampulla and only a slight discomfort on the testes.

[dipke3]

BTW, I've had a new WD last night after two days of intense buildup (each day from 7 in the morning until 11 in the evening). It seems the longer you are excited, the faster the WD will come. This time I'had a very bizarre one in which all glands were emptied but without orgasmic contractions, as if I was pissing cum. Perhaps I should try to record one in the future... Felt totally awesome!

[MarcDiesel]

BTW, I've had a new WD last night after two days of intense buildup (each day from 7 in the morning until 11 in the evening). It seems the longer you are excited, the faster the WD will come. This time I'had a very bizarre one in which all glands were emptied but without orgasmic contractions, as if I was pissing cum. Perhaps I should try to record one in the future... Felt totally awesome!

What is your definition of the constant arousal? How do you maintain that while at work and going about your daily routine?

[nk89]

I've used about the same method a few times with success to get a wet dream pretty reliable in a short time.
Key is to keep you aroused a lot, but not too aroused, having light case of blue balls is good.

[J0SH]

May I ask a question ? I've not masturbated since December 18th last year and still no wet dream. I'd say I'm pretty aroused a lot of the time.

Do I need to masturbate or should I try to increase the amount of arousal I experience ?

[sleepydreamer]

I've used about the same method a few times with success to get a wet dream pretty reliable in a short time.
Key is to keep you aroused a lot, but not too aroused, having light case of blue balls is good.

Sounds fun, but a little hard to maintain

[nk89]

It's good to get my first wet dream on a streak, after the first one they usually come on their on for me more often if i just continue to abstain.

[johnny2]

Just wanted to add I've tried this for a second time and it worked again. Perfect method if you want to have a wet dream! Thanks dipke3! :-)

[Hoban]

Welcome to the Wet Dream Forum!

[JoeShmoe3]

Great research and write up dipke3! I'm trying this method for the first time right now. Will report back if it works.

[pookie20262]

When you had your wet dreams, were you wearing underwear or nude? I typically sleep in the nude, but it seems as if most of the successful WDers wear underwear to bed.

[markymark]

Tried this method the past few days and it WORKED (see other post). This post should be pinned at the top! Thanks mate!

[Texanguy]

Since this method seems to have worked for multiple members, it seems valid. But I wonder how much of the total story this is.

For one thing, how do we know that the 'constant arousal' part of this isn't a major contributing factor in and of itself? Some guys get several WDs per week, and even two in one night. The ampulla are probably not as full then as when they were abstaining for weeks trying to get their first WD.

So maybe the 'dipke3 technique' is a way to get your brain/body to resort to a WD. But like anything else, the brain paths that lead to a WD can become reinforced, making the amount of waking arousal (and semen buildup) necessary to achieve a WD less and less. For some guys, WDs may eventually require little more than mild waking horniness, and happen as easily or easier than masturbation.

We know that guys often stay horny after a WD. For some guys, it seems that the horniness after a WD can help trigger the next one. It's interesting that for some guys, like Kevin and Shadow-15 before him, that mentally eliminating MB from their lives seems to have triggered a higher WD rate.

In summary, perhaps the 'dipke technique' is a way to force your brain/body to resort to a WD. But after a while, the 'training effect' makes WDs easier to get. For some (few) guys, WDs can become as common as MB would be, and has replaced MB as their outlet. And for many of them, it is a more intense and enjoyable outlet.

[markymark]

So maybe the 'dipke3 technique' is a way to get your brain/body to resort to a WD.

Well, that's the purpose, right? I guess he tested out on his own what is needed and/or not and that this technique is the result of his findings. Would it work without the 7 days of abstinence? Would it work without the reset procedure in the beginning? I've never tested that. I only know it worked That was the main purpose for me to try it.

[johnny2]

I've tried this technique a few times with some variations, but dipke3's method as posted here really is the best. I've experimented with less days of abstinence and less stimulation, but that didn't work (or at least, I didn't have the time to wait until the WD came). With 7 days of abstinence and 3 full days of arousal: we have a winner! Don't ask me why. It just works. Is this scientific? Probably not. It might still be a coincidence. The only thing I know is it has worked for several people here, and that is what matters. All the other methods I've seen here posted didn't work for me.

[Texanguy]

Since some guys can and do continue to get WDs after stopping MB, I think once you get a WD using dipke3's method that you shouldn't need to redo the whole cycle to get another WD. Maybe just redo the abstinence and arousal without edging phases. It looks like some frequent WDers basically just stay horny, so they remain in a less intense arousal phase most of the time.

At some point the 'brain paths' to a WD should get reinforced, so getting WDs should become easier and more frequent. Two WDs without MB in between might mean that you are well down the path to replacing MB with WDs -- assuming that is your goal.

[Njs5891]

Since some guys can and do continue to get WDs after stopping MB, I think once you get a WD using dipke3's method that you shouldn't need to redo the whole cycle to get another WD. Maybe just redo the abstinence and arousal without edging phases. It looks like some frequent WDers basically just stay horny, so they remain in a less intense arousal phase most of the time.

At some point the 'brain paths' to a WD should get reinforced, so getting WDs should become easier and more frequent. Two WDs without MB in between might mean that you are well down the path to replacing MB with WDs -- assuming that is your goal.

So Texanguy, does that mean once someone uses dipke3's method and gets a WD, you suggest not MB again and AB for another seven days followed by keeping aroused until another WD occurs?

[Texanguy]

I think it's worth a try. If it doesn't work after a week or two you could start the whole dipke3 procedure at the beginning again. But the goal would be to able to have multiple WDs without MB and the whole dike3 procedure between each WD.

[nisfornollidge]

dipke3, thank you for sharing your research, methodology and results.

TLDR: great post, thanks.

I've been lurking on the site for a while but your excellent post prompted me to comment. I've only had 2 WDs in my life, one as a teenager, and one a month or two ago. I've always been curious about the exact mechanism and various factors affecting it, and I'm particularly curious why I had a WD after all those years.

I'm keen to try your method but as a married man with a wife who enjoys sex, finding a window to do the necessary AB and arousal is tricky. We generally don't have sex when she has her period so I plan to use that week and try to avoid sex a couple of days before that, given me a 8-10 day window.

FWIW: I'm trying to free-ball, wear loose shorts in bed, no hot baths, light zinc supplement, plus testicular massage to maximise healthy sperm production.

Some questions:
i) Do you think sperm quality/quantity affect the levels in the ampulla (higher levels of mature sperm > the VD)
ii) Does hydration have an effect (will the body try to absorb faster if it is in deficit)?
iii) If the ampulla are suitably primed, does sleep quality affect the chance of a WD (ie. REM sleep etc)?
iv) how might stimulation in the 7 days affect the overall refill & rapid expansion in the last 3 days ?